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The way I read it was that was just for the beta.
Of course it's only for the betas. How could anyone could think that a release version would require connecting your atv to your computer to update. Occasionally using common sense would be a good idea, not a bad one.
 
Yea, but I thought that since this was such a significant overhaul to deserve its own OS name, Apple would just start from version 1.
I wouldn't call it significant (more Apply hype machine than fact). It shares 95-96% of it's code with IOS 9, so only 4-5% of TvOS is unique to the ATV. Most of that has been speculated to be solely related to app slicing and how it displays info on films/shows.

Sorry I am too lazy to retrieve sources to cite, but google. There have been a ton of articles out in the tech news media about it (Verge, Cnet, all the usual suspects).
 
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Why would anyone spend twice, if not three times more than its previous version, for a device that practically does very little that is different? I can't believe Apple spent years working on this device and this was the best it could come up with.. A new chip, but hardly any different functionality.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/01/apple-success-narrative-wall-street-expectations

Apple better be careful or its going to make that article above come true. They need to start coming out with products that surprise people again.. And get away from a singular focus, it seems, of coming out with products solely focused on boosting revenue to make investors happy. I think I read somewhere where Tim Cook talked about China soon being the most important region in the world when it comes to iPhone for Apple.. This company is becoming too profit driven, too much focus is being placed on beating wall street expectations, too much of the soul of the company is being sucked out by focusing on the financials and not the soul of the business. All my opinion anyways. I can't wait until Apple raises the price of iPhone, because that's almost certainly going to be coming soon.

Looks wise, aside from a color swap and a tile animation, it's really on the surface the same. Heck, navigation with the remote is exactly the same.... text input still sucks.... BUT..... the voice search with Siri does give a meaningful and worthwhile experience worth an upgrade, as well as the speed improvements in both streaming and on the system end.

I'll give you this... the 2012 update was noting more than 720-1080p with a slight under the hood speed bump, barely counts.... so we're talking 5 years.... and yes, in 5 years I think a lot of people expected more, and apple could have delivered a lot more (great improvement but not ready for prime time in a lot of ways.... totally unpolished).... but the app store (when they fix the mess that it currently is) is where it will shine. The iPhone wasn't all that special or exciting until developers built apps that made it special. That will likely be true of the ATV. It's only going to get better. And if apple gets the new siri remote out of their butts and let's developers skirt the need to make every game work with it... it has great game potential for the casual gamer. The siri remote is great for some game situations, awful for most. It's the best and worse advancement of the ATV.... it brings some innovation to the device but stifles innvoation in apps and has caused a large number of developers to pause. The developers are going to be who bring new function.... not apple... as it was with the iPhone and iPad. IOS itself offers very little to the end user.... it's the apps/developers that do.
 
Got my AppleTV today. Here are my impressions:

- Remote is very cool (although mine wasn't auto-synced out of the box so I had to use the remote from my old AppleTV to get up and running; I imagine most people would have returned product to store but I powered through).
- App store doesn't have many apps and most of the ones it does have aren't that good looking
give Devs time. Better apps are a coming
- Remote turns off my television but not my audio receiver :(
mine did this as well until I turned on HDMI CEC control for the receiver
- Why must we always type using the dumb linear keyboard?...why can't we have our words dictated like on the iPhone?
- Looks like TV networks are beginning to realize that forcing users to have a cable subscription is a stupid idea; the network apps seem to have more (and more easily accessible content) than previously
- It's nice to have Apple Music on my TV; you can easily create playlists from the TV which is nice..why is that feature not on the iPhone??
- Icons in the iTunes store are bigger which means less is shown on the screen at one time; I kinda liked it better the old way but I guess I'll get used to this
- Plex on the AppleTV is AWESOME! The performance is SO much better than using the Home Sharing feature. You can scrub through movies without having to wait for buffering and stuff...why can't Apple get iTunes+AppleTV to perform like that? Also, it shows related movies in your library; it's a very clever program.
iTunes sucks. That's the hard truth.... It needs a serious overhaul if it's to perform like a real media center like Plex
- The "Go back 30 seconds" Siri feature is great and works in Plex..probably other programs just haven't had time to test


Looking forward to:

- Using Siri to search and run Apple Music; that's gonna be SO great (we listen to music a lot at my house)
- Some sort of subscription service to get TV over internet
- Better apps, especially games


Not perfect yet but overall very pleased!
 
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Not sure why they didn't just begin at version 1.0, like WatchOS.
watchOS isn't built off iOS (as people think it is). tvOS and iOS are essentially the same, that's why tvOS and iOS apps are universal. Apple Watch apps are extensions inside the iOS binary.

Interesting huh?
 
So if my iMac Mid-2011 does not Capability of USB-C or USB-A I can not update? And here is another reason not get the current ATV and the lack of 4K sad how Apple has slowed down putting things out ahead of its time Tim Cook really was not the best choice for CEO.
ur mac has usb a. relax.
 
watchOS isn't built off iOS (as people think it is). tvOS and iOS are essentially the same, that's why tvOS and iOS apps are universal. Apple Watch apps are extensions inside the iOS binary.

Interesting huh?

But isn't iOS just built off of OS X? Steve announced it in the iPhone unveiling at WWDC 2007. Yet it still deserved its own OS name (at the time, iPhone OS).
 
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Am I the only person that's super annoyed that there's no TV power button on the remote? It's the only thing that stops the ATV from being absolutely perfect. My TV doesn't support HDMI-CEC, and I'm not sure I see the point of having volume buttons but leaving off power :(
 
Am I the only person that's super annoyed that there's no TV power button on the remote? It's the only thing that stops the ATV from being absolutely perfect. My TV doesn't support HDMI-CEC, and I'm not sure I see the point of having volume buttons but leaving off power :(

If you hold the TV button down for a second, a sleep pop-up option appears and if you press sleep, it turns it your TV off. It works on my 32" LG LED TV that does not support HDMI-CEC. And as such, waking the TV up does not turn on the TV, but it does indeed shut it down, which I can't explain.
 
Why do people want optical audio? AFAIK HDMI can support higher quality audio than optical.

Not everyone's receiver has HDMI, so without optical there is no other way of getting 5.1 sound. Even worse, some early HDMI receivers came with an HDMI version that would only support video, not audio.
 
Just return my Apple TV yesterday, this is going to be a long process. Updates and updates maybe my January 2016 they we'll get their act together. I will keep using the old box. And the Roku 4 4K looks amazing specialy if you own a 4K tv.
But if you own a 4K TV all those apps are already built into the TV? My Samsung has Netflix, Amazon etc in 4K

(question regarding remote app)


*cracks knuckles*

ok
1. Entering passwords (itunes purchases, changing game center accounts, etc). Passwords can be up to 40 chars long and very complex (if you are a good secure internet citizen). Even the silly "don't require a password every time" option times out after about a day and requires re-entry.

2. Privately enter parental controls PIN for purchasing stuff for kids or allowing play of a higher-than-approved movie or app. Right now they see what you do to unlock so everyone has to 'look the other way'.
But it won't connect to a Bluetooth keyboard.
 
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Not everyone's receiver has HDMI, so without optical there is no other way of getting 5.1 sound. Even worse, some early HDMI receivers came with an HDMI version that would only support video, not audio.
I had this problem as well. Presumably you are running HDMI directly into your TV. Most newer TVs have optical audio out. Your TV should strip audio from the HDMI input and send it back out that port. Just run a cable from there to your AV Receiver and Bob's your uncle.
 
Wouldn't it be easy to either remove apps from the "app store" or mark apps in the "app store" when an app in the store is installed by the user?

Hard to believe that entering user ID and password information remains as cumbersome as it does. My Samsung smart TV has a much better point and click process for entering such information, which is a surprise given the Samsung smart TV pretty much sucks.
 
"The update will require the Apple TV to be connected to a computer with a USB-C to USB-A cable, with the software downloaded and installed via iTunes."

What am I, a caveman?

No, but are you a developer?

But isn't iOS just built off of OS X? Steve announced it in the iPhone unveiling at WWDC 2007. Yet it still deserved its own OS name (at the time, iPhone OS).

They share the Foundation. The UI is a completely different framework.
 
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Got our new Apple TV there other day (in Ireland) and it's pretty much useless. No Siri, no universal search. This thing is painful to use with all the typing. Waste of time. Sending it back to Apple.

Hopefully 9.1 will switch on Siri?!
 
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