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Apple Releases First Developer Preview of OS X Mountain Lion, Public Launch in Late Summer

I actually miss a lot of the old functions of Snow Leopard in Lion.
And I noticed that Lion is a bit slower on my Air 2010 than SL was.
I don't think I will be upgrading to this one.
 
/V\acpower said:
In general I like what I see of OS X Mountain Lion since it adresses most of the "inconsistency" between OS X and iOS.

Notes on Mac was such a mess, Reminders linked in iCal too. iChat is useless since almost nobody use it, iMessage that is automatically used on all iOS 5 devices is a much better solution.

I love also that they bring notification. (sad for the "growl" team though)

Altough I would still love more "OS X only" enhancement, I still feel its a worthy upgrade for 30 bucks.
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I agree. However, hopefully this update avoids a lot of the bugs that were in the early Lion builds (and fixes a lot of the ones that remain - full-screen mode with two monitors, for instance). A big risk of an annual update cycle is that the OS will be constantly buggy. So far, they've avoided this with iOS, but that OS is also more limited.
 
Well, I'm pretty much through with Macs. I may keep one around for iOS development, but I'll no longer use it as my main machine. Gatekeeper has killed any interest I have in Apple's desktop products. Shame as I do like the iPhone and iPad -- but those are the only reason why I'll even own any Mac at all going forward.
 
Mountain Lion is more about marketing, not inventing something new.
Besides, by transferring ideas from tablets to desktops you don't make something new, you just adopt.

So I am a bit surprised they made of it "a whole new" system version. That looks more like Lion 10.7.5. And isn't Mountain Lion a puma (used in 10.7.1)?

However, I don't think simplifying some things in OS X will make it worse. Sometimes you just want to work, to code, to draw and to not get distracted by system nuances.
 
MacBook early 2008

I hope my MacBook will support it. I am running OS X Lion now and Mountain Lion looks awesome. :D
 
Peace said:
No offense man but you have no idea of what you are talking about. The further integration of IOS is a definite plus.
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Yes, please finish off Spaces and whatever the "successor" to Expose is. We need more iOSification on the Mac, we need to mindlessly swipe between dozens of fullscreen apps, we need to put a home button on the iMac logo, and we need to kill the Finder because it doesn't need look like the iOS homescreen.
 
The notification center is pretty awesome. Digging that the most. I have a mail plugin I used to use but I won't be needing that anymore.


miles01110 said:
If you were, you wouldn't be using Macs.
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So are you saying that I am lying about what I do for a living? We do post production, graphics for print/tv, movies, television shows, sports broadcasts, live-to-air, of course we use Macs. They run FCP, Avid, Adobe Suite, etc.
 
Cougarcat said:
You only have to worry about this if Apple changes the CPU architecture, and that will not happen every three years. They recently made the change from 32 to 64 bit which is why some macs have been cut off from OS updates recently.
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They already left out some of the machines that do support Lion, seems they're also going to be limiting by GPU
 
Stridder44 said:
Wow, nice catch. It really isn't just a "your CPU needs to be 64-bit" kinda thing, they're eliminating support for a number of Macs that don't have proper GPU support.

Thank God the 8600M is still supported. I was a little worried my early '08 MBP would finally see the end of its new OS X life (which will probably happen sooner rather than later at this rate).
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I agree with them doing this. We shouldn't be restrained by severely dated 32bit hardware anymore, its 2012, where everything supports 64 bit and has done for a few years, except those pesky old bits of hardware.
 
DMLou said:
Well, I'm pretty much through with Macs. I may keep one around for iOS development, but I'll no longer use it as my main machine. Gatekeeper has killed any interest I have in Apple's desktop products. Shame as I do like the iPhone and iPad -- but those are the only reason why I'll even own any Mac at all going forward.
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are you saying that because the assumption in the future MAC OSX will force you to only be able to install apps on the app store?

if this is the case why the love for iPad and iPhone 2 devices that have always forced this?

i know i know you can jailbreak those 2 devices but wouldnt you think if MAC OSX ever went to this locked state, wouldnt a hacker "jailbreak" it?
 
KnightWRX said:
- iCloud : Don't give a crap
- Message : nice addition, being able to message my GF and friends from iOS to Mac, back and forth is a pretty cool feature, something that should have been released along with iOS 5 and iMessage's original release actually.
- Reminders : Don't need it.
- Notes : Uh... we already have notes...
- Notification Center : Goodbye Growl, which is a good thing since they went "paid for or build the source yourself". And let's face it, Growl was lacking quite a bit of features. Let's hope developer take up of Notification Center is good.
- Share Sheets : Ugh... See below.
- Twitter : ugh... Can't they make a "Social Media integration" framework and let us pick and choose what clients to install on our systems ? I don't want any integration to social media stuff, I shouldn't have to have it thrown in my face.
- Game Center : Sharing accounts for game stats is a nice touch, Steam on iOS would be even better though (instead of OpenFeint and Game Center... but can't force developers to really choose).
- AirPlay mirroring : wireless TV output is not something I would use, but it's a cool feature for those that want it. Greatly simplifies connections.
- Gatekeeper : Ugh... If it's set by default to only allow Mac App Store, I will hate it. If by default it's set to allow from any source and stays that way, letting users opt-in (rather than requiring opt-out), then I guess it's a great hardening feature for those that want it.

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Overall, for such a short wait, it'll be a "decent" update, if not for Gatekeeper which is quite scary. I'll be following that one closely.
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Peace said:
This isn't a "new" O/S . There's a reason it's called "Mountain" Lion.

Like another poster said it's like a service pack for Lion.
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I get the vague feel Apple feels confident enough to pull the "release a new OS X lever" yearly now as a guaranteed and predictable revenue stream vs. development costs.

Winni said:
The default setting is to allow everything, just like before. But the fact that a feature like Gatekeeper is in the OS does not bode well. It's rather clear where they're going with this: It's the final grace period for developers to obtain a certificate for their software. After that, it is very likely that Gatekeeper will no longer tolerate software from "unknown sources". And after that... Welcome to the iOS software distribution model.
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And then only criminals will install from "unknown sources"... :rolleyes:
 
Mattie Num Nums said:
Now we have Lion working fine and are actually ready to start rolling it out to our Production team. Not going to happen now. No way I am wasting resources on updating computers every 12 months thats impossible. It takes 3-5 months to update all our computer OS's and if we are doing this every year we are going to be chasing our tails for the life of OSX.
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So if Apple is going to an annual upgrade cycle, and you don't want to upgrade every 12 months, won't you just choose to do every second or third upgrade and skip the ones in between? So if you're ready to deploy Lion now, why wouldn't you go ahead and do that, and skip Mountain Lion when it ships in late summer? Then when Ocelot (;)) ships in summer 2013, you adopt that and deploy it in 2014. Apple's gonna do what Apple wants to do, and annual updates may make sense for consumers, to stay in closer step with iDevices; for business users, we'll just choose to skip some of the upgrades. (I say this as I look around my office of Macs running at lot of Leopard, some Snow Leopard, and no Lion -- which I'm planning to move to this summer.)
 
DMLou said:
Gatekeeper has killed any interest I have in Apple's desktop products.
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I...you're trolling, right?

Are any of you even reading the articles or reviews before posting here?


It's been said dozens of times already, but I'll say it again for you. Only this time in bold.


Gatekeeper has three, 3, as in 1, 2, 3, settings. One of the settings completely turns it off, meaning you can install whatever the hell you want.
 
DMLou said:
Well, I'm pretty much through with Macs. I may keep one around for iOS development, but I'll no longer use it as my main machine. Gatekeeper has killed any interest I have in Apple's desktop products. Shame as I do like the iPhone and iPad -- but those are the only reason why I'll even own any Mac at all going forward.
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You are in control of Gatekeeper so I don't see how that would make you lose your interest in Macs.
 
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