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Lion must not be doing to well if there releasing a full revision like this after just a year. I hope its not expensive, and that it is to lion what snow leopard was to leopard.
 
I...you're trolling, right?

Are any of you even reading the articles or reviews before posting here?


It's been said dozens of times already, but I'll say it again for you. Only this time in bold.


Gatekeeper has three, 3, as in 1, 2, 3, settings. One of the settings completely turns it off, meaning you can install whatever the hell you want.

i already said that but people are stressing about the updates after the updates after this update that hasnt even been released yet, that you have to convice people that IF apple did make gateway app store only there isnt a hacker smart enough to give us still a way to install what we want
 
I...you're trolling, right?

Are any of you even reading the articles or reviews before posting here?


It's been said dozens of times already, but I'll say it again for you. Only this time in bold.


Gatekeeper has three, 3, as in 1, 2, 3, settings. One of the settings completely turns it off, meaning you can install whatever the hell you want.

It's the default to allow any app.
 

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I...you're trolling, right?

Are any of you even reading the articles or reviews before posting here?


It's been said dozens of times already, but I'll say it again for you. Only this time in bold.


Gatekeeper has three, 3, as in 1, 2, 3, settings. One of the settings completely turns it off, meaning you can install whatever the hell you want.

Thank you for using large font, it think it is the only way to get people to actually read what others have to say :D
 
So if Apple is going to an annual upgrade cycle, and you don't want to upgrade every 12 months, won't you just choose to do every second or third upgrade and skip the ones in between? So if you're ready to deploy Lion now, why wouldn't you go ahead and do that, and skip Mountain Lion when it ships in late summer? Then when Ocelot (;)) ships in summer 2013, you adopt that and deploy it in 2014. Apple's gonna do what Apple wants to do, and annual updates may make sense for consumers, to stay in closer step with iDevices; for business users, we'll just choose to skip some of the upgrades. (I say this as I look around my office of Macs running at lot of Leopard, some Snow Leopard, and no Lion -- which I'm planning to move to this summer.)

Again, I work in a large environment. We get computers daily. Once Apple release OSX 10.8, all computers will come shipped with it. We can't downgrade due to Licensing Agreements, which means no matter what I will always have new OS's to support at a moments notice. Imagine having to deal with that and manage 10.6 and 10.7. Its a tough job to do without a roadmap. Getting blindsided in the IT world sucks. Lots of money on the line for our clients. If I could just load 10.6.8+ on everything it wouldn't be a problem but, thats not possible.

Edit: NDA guys.
 
They already left out some of the machines that do support Lion, seems they're also going to be limiting by GPU

Probably because they are either ancient (which is common in Macs, unfortunately) or 64-bit drivers were never written for the GPUs.
 
I agree with them doing this. We shouldn't be restrained by severely dated 32bit hardware anymore, its 2012, where everything supports 64 bit and has done for a few years, except those pesky old bits of hardware.

I'm right there with you. I love my MBP, but I'm well aware it's, well, aging. Hell, I haven't even bothered with a 32-bit version of Windows since 2009.
 
Well, I'm pretty much through with Macs. I may keep one around for iOS development, but I'll no longer use it as my main machine. Gatekeeper has killed any interest I have in Apple's desktop products. Shame as I do like the iPhone and iPad -- but those are the only reason why I'll even own any Mac at all going forward.

Why not just set it to allow apps from any source and continue on just like you were? That even assumes you feel the need to update to ML?

Heck, if you’re downloading apps from the App Store, you’re kind of already using a Gatekeeper like control mechanism.
 
Not sure if this was already discussed, but like many of you this news came out of the blue. Am I the only one a little concerned about this? Normally Apple has some big press shindig touting all the new features, yet this time its just quietly added to the Apple site. I've felt Apple has been abandoning Mac and OS X more and more in favor of iOS, and with this it seems even more so.

Is my concern unwarranted?

(On a side note none of the new features they're outlining really seem all the interesting, at least to me. I'm sure I'll upgrade since I'm a sucker for updates, but this seems like an "ehh" moment.)
 
Not sure if this was already discussed, but like many of you this news came out of the blue. Am I the only one a little concerned about this? Normally Apple has some big press shindig touting all the new features, yet this time its just quietly added to the Apple site. I've felt Apple has been abandoning Mac and OS X more and more in favor of iOS, and with this it seems even more so.

Is my concern unwarranted?

(On a side note none of the new features they're outlining really seem all the interesting, at least to me. I'm sure I'll upgrade since I'm a sucker for updates, but this seems like an "ehh" moment.)

If you're concerned chances are your post will be neg'd and people will tell you to buy a PC.


Exactly, which makes it even less of a big deal.

As long as we always have that option I could care less. Ill just push an MCX to allow it. In fact I don't care if it is App Store only, Apple just needs to make it easier to Volume License Purchase. The current VPP is not very good.
 
This is interesting. I have a late 2008 MBP (The first Unibody MBP) and according to this list mine isn't supported but the first 13" Unibody MacBook is.

Wonder why this is as I have a discreet GPU in mine!

- D

EDIT: Actually I'm confused by that list because it does say Core2Duo 2.4 in brackets so I'm in the 'it might be' camp!)

You're not in the "it might be" camp, you're most definitely in the "yes" camp:

15-inch 2,2/2,4 GHz refers to what is more commonly known as the Mid/Late 2007 generation of MacBook Pros. Those and every MacBook Pro released since that date are supported.

I have an Early 2008 MacBook Pro (the last non-unibody model) and mine is therefore supported as well. Though I've yet to decide if I'll upgrade or not. I didn't go for Lion, I'm still running Snow Leopard here.
 
Wonder when they'll release it to testers other than devs - anyone know how apple usually handles the timing on that?

I also wonder if this means not much more 10.7.x development - it really needs it but this gives the impression they may be throwing in the towel on anything that's not a major showstopper and making ML the fix for Lion.

On the one hand there are advantages to more frequent major OSX updates, but there's also dropped support for hardware and software and some apps stop working. It has always made sense for many users to wait a few months for x.3 or .4 (which is now in the case of Lion), but with releases this often I suspect a LOT more people will just skip every other OSX version entirely - by the time the bugs are getting worked out now the next version will be announced and it starts all over again.


I tell you what.

Just finished upgrading and this Lion ROARS. It is fast as hell.

Cool. Have you tried any benchmarks or it just feels snappy? And have they sped up (or hopefully eliminated) any of the annoying slow UI animations?
 
As someone that runs 100's of dual boot macs in a University, I find the frequency of OS versions really tiresome.

Personally it looks decent, I am still on snow leopard though haven't felt the need at all to move to lion.

Ugh! I like the looks of this. I am still on LEOPARD though :(

My G4 won't go any higher and I'll lose my main laser printer when I upgrade to SL which is the only reason I've held off.

I am researching a new one but I am no where near ready to buy.

Guess I'll at least upgrade the MB (can I go from Leopard to Lion?? Wait for ML?)

I agree with the thoughts on quick releases - sometimes even 2 years seems way too soon!
 
When do we get Mac OS X Thundercat?

Downloading right now, but taking several hours (over 4 at the moment). I'm doing this at work, but fortunately, I can call it "Professional Development" since I'm an IT guy. :)
 
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