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So much for Lion (the king of the beasts) being the culmination of the big cat series. And Mountain Lion = Puma = Cougar. Maybe there's hope for Ocelot. Babou, is that you?
 
Creating a second partition

Can soneone please tell me how to create a second partition in lion to install the 10.8 preview on it. Thanks
 
The iPadification of OS X is getting ridiculous. Too many useless features and so many of the useful ones that existed in Snow Leopard got pulled. (Expose!)

Lion is bloatware, and all this new crap is only going to add to it. I'm sticking to Snow Leopard, at least my workflow isnt hindered.

-Launchpad is useless (and at the moment cant be permanently disabled)
-mission control is a mess (and all apps expose needs to come back)
-versions needs to tossed
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the timing of this may be due to the Windows 8 timeframes.

Aside from the eye candy in mtn lion, does it actually fix any of the fundamental shortcomings in lion?
 
Reaction to Windows 8?

Ok, that was unexpected. It's appears to be a reaction to what Microsoft is doing with Windows 8.
 
looks like the mac is turning more toward iOS.... :(
Whats the good of a new OS when they don't have any new Macs to put it on.
 
interested in mirroring, especially going to a MBA platform, but we will see only because Lion was not that thrilling of an update?
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the timing of this may be due to the Windows 8 timeframes.

Just a guess, but I think this timing has been planned well in advance. I think the move of iOS to a Fall release was part of the plan that includes annual OS X updates. Spring (iPad, minor iOS feature updates) and Fall iOS releases bookending the Summer OS X release.
 
they should make this update free. I don't see much here worth upgrading over. The only thing I see that I'd use regularly is notification center, but growl already does this.
 
I like the annual-update scheme, if done properly. After a while, you get to know the system and discover what needs to be improved. Having to wait for two–three years for such improvements to be made is just too long. Plus, I just like getting new stuff. :)
 
It's not requiring anything at all. A developer can still make their own software without a certificate from Apple and distribute it themselves the same as they always do.

Right now, with Mountain Lion and that is fine. It's also not what we're talking about. Please follow the context. calderone made the assumption that in a future release, the option might not be there anymore.

And I'm not talking about developers distributing their software, I'm talking about source distribution and the end-user building the application. Again, not something that applies to Mountain Lion but to an hypothetical future calerone brought up.

If you don't want to discuss the hypothetical scenario calderone brought up and said he was fine with, don't participate.
 
false

The minimum to upgrade to ML is 10.6.8 which means SL. Period.

No actually... The Mac was a 1st Gen Unibody 15-inch that I never upgraded to Snow Leopard.

All I did was changed the SystemVersion.plist in /System/Library/CoreServices/
To read "10.6.8" instead of "10.5.whatever"...

This works for some apps on iOS as well...
 
Then I'll wait before I pass judgment. I know why iCloud is limited to MAS apps only (makes sense, Apple doesn't want 3rd parties to play around with its servers without having reviewed the apps that do it), but for the notification center, it makes little sense.

But you are making an assumption that all of the notifications presented come from the apps local to the machine. That isn't necessarily true. The Apple site:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/features.html#notifications

One of the tabs below the picture is notification everywhere. If look closely you will see that Game Center is passing a notification of a friend request. That certainly wasn't a local app that originated that request.

However, in contrast Mail's "VIP only notifications" (http://www.macworld.com/article/165411/2012/02/mountain_lion_hands_on_with_notification_center.html) probably do come directly from the app in response to mail it has pulled down and classified ( that value add is done with local information.)


There are two approaches to the non-local notifications. The Apple servers notify the local app and the local app pushes the notification onto the local "Notifier App". That is somewhat similar to how Growl works.

The other approach is to set up a overall system notification service. Apps tell the service to field notifications for them and the Apple servers talk directly to the service when have non-local data to push. This has upsides. The app could be currently 'asleep' , suspended , and just plain not running at all and you'd still get some notifications. Instead of mutliple apps running multiple daemons waiting on notification data there is just one daemon.
Local apps can still post local events but they don't necessarily need to handle all (local and non-local) of them.



If they do end up limiting notification center to MAS only, it goes to show that Apple is heading in a direction where OS X will not be friendly to non-MAS applications eventually.

This isn't new. Just substitute "New Operating Systems and frameworks" for MAS in the above and will see it has been true all along.

Over the long term most GUI non-MAS apps are going to be like OS 9 classic or Carbon apps. It is an older API that will be supported for a substantial number of years but eventually will get dropped. The critical issue is how much stuff that keep adding to "Generally available" Cocoa Frameworks and how much gets weaved into "MAS only Cocoa" frameworks.
 
sounds like a new cash cow for Apple, a new $29 OS every year. This should just be an update to Lion.

:rolleyes: Price hasn't been announced. And a few hundred million dollars in revenue compared to the development costs of an OS aren't really a cash cow on the scale that Apple operates. Less than one percent of their total revenue and a smaller percentage of their profits.
 
Open GL 3.2+ support? HFS+ replaced with a better F.S.(shame ZFS never made it)? True Multi-display support for those who actually use systems for professional grade work? SAMBA/VPN issues resolved? Better server support? Under the hood improvements???

No, we have GAME CENTER! And look, Twitter integration!!! This is the best update EVER.

/sarcasm

Seriously guys, Apple even clearly states "iPad inspired." 90% of you Mac users came in through the iOS portal now, which means Apple wants more iOS consumer driven features for Mac's and couldn't give two ****'s about those who have been using OS X for over a decade for work (you know, that thing we do for making money to live in a capitalist-driven society). It's amazing, looking at the last beta release for "Snow Leopard" (yup, still have them all the way back to "Tiger") and the current "M.L." how much the focus has shifted to consumer/iOS platforms. This may be great for the 90% of you that use Mac's for emailing, "twittering", surfing the web, but for those who have 2, even four displays, use OS X for film editing, digital photography, design, etc. it's a shame.

Seriously. They add more then 100 new features. Of course in the Marketing dept they highlight those that appeal to 80% of the users. This makes sense. Not a word spoken on the other new features.
 
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