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Reminders and notes? Twitter integration? Messages? "Safari tweaks"? And they have the audacity to call this a new OS and not a 10.7.4?

The only thing they seem to be interested about is morphing os x visually to ios so more people can get macs...

Where's resolution independence that they 've abandoned? When are we going to get a menu bar that can be read on a the 27" imac? Where's zfs? Where is a better finder?

Where is one single idea in this os that seems inspired and useful? ONE!
(and no gatekeeper isn't anything to write home about)

How long are we going to keep coughing up $30 for service packs...?

Ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...

Unbelievable...
 
Reminders and notes? Twitter integration? Messages? "Safari tweaks"? And they have the audacity to call this a new OS and not a 10.7.4?

The only thing they seem to be interested about is morphing os x visually to ios so more people can get macs...

Where's resolution independence that they 've abandoned? When are we going to get a menu bar that can be read on a the 27" imac? Where's zfs? Where is a better finder?

Where is one single idea in this os that seems inspired and useful? ONE!
(and no gatekeeper isn't anything to write home about)

How long are we going to keep coughing up $30 for service packs...?

Ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...

Unbelievable...

Wow how come you know how much it's going to cost because no one else does? Ladies and gents we have the fountain of knowledge right here! Plus you missed quite a few new features but I wouldn't expect any less from you ;)

I just hope it's not $30 because it sounds like you can't afford it! Awwwww shame.
 
Reminders and notes? Twitter integration? Messages? "Safari tweaks"? And they have the audacity to call this a new OS and not a 10.7.4?

The only thing they seem to be interested about is morphing os x visually to ios so more people can get macs...

Where's resolution independence that they 've abandoned? When are we going to get a menu bar that can be read on a the 27" imac? Where's zfs? Where is a better finder?

Where is one single idea in this os that seems inspired and useful? ONE!
(and no gatekeeper isn't anything to write home about)

How long are we going to keep coughing up $30 for service packs...?

Ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...ts...

Unbelievable...

How many times do we have to see the same rants in this thread? These features were just ten items that Apple chose to highlight for consumers from a developer preview. Pricing has not been announced.
 
All this hand wringing over iOS-ification of OS X in Mountain Lion, as if there's new profound thing happening really makes me laugh. In case you guys missed it, the big things already happened. I've not seen a single person complaining who has actually tried the preview. I haven't either, but I sure don't see anything profound that isn't already in Lion.

I hate to break it to everyone, but you guys lost this war way back in 2007. If you've got a problem with it, then install Linux and be done with it already.

Now, on to the thing that I'm surprised hasn't gotten more discussion, iCloud document integration. Finally Apple has an answer other than "Open Safari and download your document." Why didn't this get more coverage in the hands-on articles? The ones I read barely mentioned it.

From the little I was able to gather, I'm not sure I'll like the implementation. Still, it's bound to be better than what we have now. The dream of writing a document on your Mac, editing it on your iPhone on the bus or in a cab, and then showing it to others on your iPad, then having all the edits the next time you're at your Mac, all seamlessly and without having to manually move files around is getting closer. Most of this can be done with DropBox, but I look forward to seeing Apple's solution.
 
Apple is still moving in the direction of dumb, despite what every apologist, zealot, fanboi and partisan of Apple has claimed.

And claimed they have.

This is simple, Apple wants and is going to move to an iOS business model on the Mac.

There's just going to be one OS (server gone) and it will only be OS X, no mention of Mac at all.

OS X will be "upgraded" annually, to reflect the changes of iOS business models, micro-transaction "experience" and software distribution.

Apple makes no significant money from nerds, uber-geeks who compile their own software or the technically minded people. Quite the contrary.

The Macintosh program is essentially on autopilot now, maintainance - it's only reason of being is that Mac marketshare is actually growing.

I guarantee you that the current success of the Mac is despite Apple's treatment of the platform, in fact it seems that Apple doesn't have a clue why the Mac is popular. It doesn't matter what Apple does, what inane feature is inserted or removed from Mac OS X the platform still becomes more popular.

Perhaps it's a halo effect from iToys success. Perhaps it's the fact that in today's economy it's the upper middle class and the 1% that are quite well off, buying iToys and Macs to be trendy and cute.

Perhaps it's just a critical mass that Apple has reached. Ask Microsoft, they know.

Point is this: I've never been less excited about an OS X "upgrade". For one thing, I can't even tell if it is a genuine upgrade, a sidegrade or downgrade ... all I am sure of is that it doesn't contain anything anyone *needs*.

And it is telling that instead of an event to announce this, Apple instead called their most egregious sycophant, John Gruber, and told him to blog about it.

Which he did promptly, after the constant verbal masturbation about how Phil Schiller was so professional in their private, one-on-one presentation in a luxurious unnamed hotelroom.

I'd say that Gruber should have brought a lubricant with him, but he'd argue that the Apple way is so innovative without such "clutter". :D
 
Apple is still moving in the direction of dumb, despite what every apologist, zealot, fanboi and partisan of Apple has claimed.

And claimed they have.

This is simple, Apple wants and is going to move to an iOS business model on the Mac.

There's just going to be one OS (server gone) and it will be OS X, no mention of Mac either way.

It will be "upgraded" annually, to reflect the changes of iOS business models, micro-transaction "experience" and software distribution.

Apple makes no significant money from nerds, uber-geeks who compile their own software or the technically minded people. Quite the contrary.

The Macintosh program is essentially on autopilot now, maintainance - it's only reason of being is that it is actually growing.

I guarantee you that the current success of the Mac is despite Apple's treatment of the platform, in fact it seems that Apple doesn't have a clue why the Mac is popular. It doesn't matter what Apple does, what inane feature is inserted or removed from Mac OS X the platform still becomes more popular.

Perhaps it's a halo effect from iToys success. Perhaps it's the fact that in today's economy it's the upper middle class and the 1% that are quite well off, buying iToys and Macs to be trendy and cute.

Perhaps it's just a critical mass that Apple has reached. Ask Microsoft, they know.

Point is this: I've never been less excited about an OS X "upgrade". For one thing, I can't even tell if it is a genuine upgrade, a sidegrade or downgrade ... all I am sure of is that it doesn't contain anything anyone *needs*.

And it is telling that instead of an event to announce this, Apple instead called their most egregious sycophant, John Gruber, and told him to blog about it.

Which he did promptly, after the constant verbal masturbation about how Phil Schiller was so professional in their private, one-on-one presentation in a luxurious unnamed hotelroom.

I'd say that Gruber should have brought a lubricant with him, but he'd argue that the Apple way is so innovative without such "clutter". :D

I bought a 2011 MacBook Pro and after 10 minutes of trying to do REAL WORK in Lion, I got pissed off, got a copy of 10.6.8 for a 2011 MBP, formatted the drive and went back to using expose and normal way of saving files. On top of that, I completely rid the hard drive of the backup partition to install Lion. Didn't want to see a trace of it.

This whole ipadification of OS X and loading it with iOS crap only caters to the newbs. If this continues, I'll make a switch back to Windows after 12 years. At least then I'll even have a choice of good video cards.
 
Anyone know where the "Mountain Lion" install file is saved so I can have a copy? It seems to install and delete it.
 
What is the gesture on the Magic Mouse to reveal the Notification Centre? Two finger swipe is already taken to transition between full screen apps.

Also, I just read 2008 Macs are unsupported. This includes the Unibody MacBook, too? :(
 
This whole ipadification of OS X and loading it with iOS crap only caters to the newbs. If this continues, I'll make a switch back to Windows after 12 years. At least then I'll even have a choice of good video cards.

So you're saying you'd rather Apple cater to 5% of the tech savvy population rather then 95% of the rest of the world?

And, really, given that the more people have iOS devices, why wouldn't they cater their operating system to something people are familiar with and that plays nice with the rest of their devices. The majority of time, these days, people are out and about with handheld devices rather then sitting in front of their computer.
 
Apple is still moving in the direction of dumb, despite what every apologist, zealot, fanboi and partisan of Apple has claimed.

And what exactly is dumb about these added features? All of them sound good to me. I'm all for criticism, but at least make a case for your viewpoint rather than simply blowing around hot air. Integrating the user experience across all Apple devices seems like quite an intelligent thing to me, and so far as I can tell, no crucial features are being dumped.

I know people complain a lot about mission control, but I for one very much enjoy it and think it is an improvement over expose. Could it be better? Sure. I'd like them to allow multiple full-screen windows if someone has multiple screens; I'd also like it if we could rearrange the desktops and full-screen apps more seamlessly. But to say mission control made things dumber is sheer nonsense, and there is no reason to think it might not receive updates/improvements in the future.

So, what's your problem with OS X and the direction it is taking, other than you don't want things to change from the way they were? What seems dumb to me is being unwilling to adapt to new technologies that make computer life better. Refusing to learn of better/more efficient ways of doings things is what I'd called "dumb".
 
I bought a 2011 MacBook Pro and after 10 minutes of trying to do REAL WORK in Lion, I got pissed off, got a copy of 10.6.8 for a 2011 MBP, formatted the drive and went back to using expose and normal way of saving files. On top of that, I completely rid the hard drive of the backup partition to install Lion. Didn't want to see a trace of it.

This whole ipadification of OS X and loading it with iOS crap only caters to the newbs. If this continues, I'll make a switch back to Windows after 12 years. At least then I'll even have a choice of good video cards.

Oh please. What "real work" can't be accomplished in Lion that can be in Snow Leopard? Please do tell. As far as complaining about the "normal way of saving files", there isn't much difference with the new way. It takes merely a couple of times to adjust to the new way, plus you get all the added benefits of the new way. Yes, I'd like to have an option to "save as", or a "save to", rather than having to duplicate and then save as, but having one simple extra step doesn't stop any "real work" from happening. And having versions around is a huge bonus for the work many of us do. It might not be for you, but if you want an OS customized only to the way you do things, run a linux distro.
 
I'm not going to bitch, im going to lay out what I would like to see in OS X 10.8

>Full screen apps for multiple monitors
>Snow Leopard speed and stability
>better use of the app store
>Some way of using PPC apps, even if its not included it should be allowed to be done by a 3rd party
>The ability to play Blu-Ray movies, again even if its not included it should be allowed to be done by a 3rd party
>Siri?
 
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