Say this again when Adobe CS6 or later requires an upgrade.
Youre going to tell me how my workflow should be? Don't be arrogant.
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Apple Releases First Developer Preview of OS X Mountain Lion, Public Launch in Late Summer
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Say this again when Adobe CS6 or later requires an upgrade.
Youre going to tell me how my workflow should be? Don't be arrogant.
Both shocked and stoked my early baseline 2008 iMac is still supported. Running Lion with no issues so I'm looking forward to this.
Nothing about that is dumb. Again, if you don't like Launchpad, you are not forced to use it. It is entire optional. Reverse scrolling is godsend for anyone who has iDevices, but again, if you don't like it, turn it off. It is entirely optional. Constantly showing scrollbars is inelegant and unnecessary. Seems stupid to keep it simply because people are too stuck in their ways. Learning to appreciate improvement is not dumb.
What's dumb is for companies not to upgrade their software and not to keep up with the times. You are seriously complaining about Rosetta and Classic environment? Geez. I am beginning to think anything that isn't designed to your marginal interests are considered dumb.
That has nothing to do with the difference between the way things were and where they are going. Finder in Lion and ML does everything Finder did in SL. So your complaint is off-topic.
Simplicity and elegance aren't dumb. It is dumb if essential features are removed unnecessarily. But removing unneeded and mostly unused features to optimize a system isn't dumb. It is dumb to try to hold onto everything at the cost of efficiency. People who store years and years of old junk they will never use again in their homes, is what I called dumb. Going minimalist and only keeping what you need, is intelligent.
Of course not. I was saying if you present a specific problem, as you did, I might, or might not, have a recommendation to solve it based on my learning how to employ an OS. You said you were able to do a bunch of selected tasks in SL, and then showed why you couldn't achieve the same efficiency in Lion. I think there is a way to use Mission Control and Hot-corners jointly to make what you were looking for very easy and fast. Of course that requires customizing the way your OS handles certain tasks, and you may not like those recommendations overall. But my point is simply that there are very efficient ways to achieving what you were achieving in SL.
Often times adapting requires trying new combinations, and it does take time to figure out how to make everything work smoothly. I can certainly sympathize with not wanting, or having the time, to readapt each time a new OS is released, but what I currently am unable to understand is why that legitimates the types of critiques you made. The computing world is not going to wait around for when people are ready for new paradigm shifts, and rightly so.
I know I'm going to get major downvotes for this, but I absolutely dislike the direction OS X is going. I don't want iOS features on my desktop computer.
Care to explain why not? Let me guess, you don't own any idevices right?
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Well, the idevice users are growing fast. More and more of us own Macs and iPhones and iPads. We expect greater integration. That shouldn't be done at the cost of users who don't have idevices, I'll grant you, but if the integration must come at the cost of the way the traditional customers are doing things, I say good riddance to the ways of old (like with the scrolling issue).
I don't see how anyone can expect otherwise.
So far devs have reported apps working, but I wouldn't make that assumption. At this point we have no idea how much or how little is changed under the hood so it's entirely possible that at least some apps will break to some degree.
Yes I do own idevices, but I prefer to keep them separate from my desktop OS. That's all there is to it.
I have to totally agree with Wikus. Spaces and Expose reached near perfection in Snow Leopard. One of the greatest UI enhancements since I dunno, tabbed browsing! An absolute joy.
Mission Control is a complete shambles in comparison. Utterly frustrating in the face of what was once so effortless and intuitive. A real shame. I only hope they take another look at it against what they once had.
Anyone knows if this is in the form of upgrade or fresh install? Documentation seems to be missing... Or did I miss something?
It completely escapes me as to why they didn't at least give us the option to switch back to the old Exposè system they had in place. I have gotten used to it, but ever time I use one of my older Macs with Tiger or Snow Leopard, I am again disappointed by the implementation in 10.7 .
Okay, guys I understand the frustration with many different things in Lion and I would name them, but for time's sake, I will not.
I don't really like the idea of a merger between iOS and OSX, but many of the new features in 10.8 just seem like apps that could have been bought from 3rd parties before, but are now coming standard on OSX plus the integration with all your devices.
I will not lie that Apple is walking on a fine line here, but this update looks a bit promising. Like I said though, there are many things about Lion I do not like and hopefully they may listen to customer feedback and change somethings in 10.8!
With that said guys, regardless of the annoying quirks that I am faced with Lion more often than I like, it is going to have to take a major screw up in OSX to get me to switch permanently back to Windows.
I don't really like the idea of a merger between iOS and OSX, but many of the new features in 10.8 just seem like apps that could have been bought from 3rd parties before, but are now coming standard on OSX plus the integration with all your devices.
I will not lie that Apple is walking on a fine line here, but this update looks a bit promising. Like I said though, there are many things about Lion I do not like and hopefully they may listen to customer feedback and change somethings in 10.8!
With that said guys, regardless of the annoying quirks that I am faced with Lion more often than I like, it is going to have to take a major screw up in OSX to get me to switch permanently back to Windows.
Yes everything about that dumb, glue-sniffingly dumb. A child or even a touchmonkey could figure that out.
Again? Have I had this discussion with you before? No, of course not, you must be arguing with someone else.
Whether one uses Launchpad or not is immaterial to this discussion, use it if you want, but it is DUMB. Dee you emm bee.
Easy on the hyperbole tex, whatever reverse scrolling is, it isn't "godsend" to anyone. Except those who can't adapt, learn or are exceedingly mentally challenged. Then one could describe that as a "godsend".
Again, use it if you want, but it is DUMB. It is dumbdeedumbdeedumb. I don't care whether can be turned off, it's a dumb feature made by Apple and at the cost of adding a smart feature that actually matters.
Besides if it was so smart then it would figure out that when using a trackpad, one scrolls one way and when one plugs in a mouse one prefers to scroll the other way.
Of course, this being a DUMB feature in more than one, it doesn't get it and you have to change scroll direction manually. That's dumb. Oh my, that is stunningly dumb.
Whether it is inelegant in your opinion, I care not one whit. However it is objectively convenient and informative. Strictly not even the GUI itself is necessary, but it is convenient and informative.
It is another dumb feature that can be turned off for those not offended by information, but it is another waste of time and dumb for anyone who uses a computer with a monitor of average screen resolution and size. It makes sense on an iToy, where screens are small.
Another dumb feature wasted on Mac OS X, that could have been ignored and time and resources used for something smart.
Yeah it would, wouldn't it? Stuck in their ways like iTards that can't figure out which way to scroll on a computer because their iToys do it one way and not like is done on a computer?
You mean like that?
Because you just claimed that it was a "godsend" the ass-backwards dumb scrolling feature in Lion.
Scrolling the other way is not an improvement. It's just the other way. Not seeing information is not an improvement. That's just dumb.
By the way, pretending to be an authority on what is tasteful, elegant or an improvement is unfortunately exclusive to half-insane, douchebag millionaires with a personality cult and cancer. You're not it, shall we say.
No it's dumb to drop features that don't cost anything significant to maintain, such as these virtual environments. Fact is neither PPC nor the Classic environment changed, they were things frozen in time. Like DOSBox. Emulators trying and succeeding to achieve a state that is defined and final.
Obviously, what you are suggesting is actually based on a false premise - namely that programs are always maintained and upgraded and that programs become obsolete with time.
Neither is true of course, thus fantastically dumb to drop support of these platforms when one has already achieved better than adequate emulation environment. In other words, it's already built in. Removing such features is dumb.
No, Finder in SL was lame and incomplete. Finder in Lion and ML are simply not usable. What happened to the Library folder between SL and Lion? What the hell is this "all my files" pile of dung? With literally millions of files, do I need all of them? No, nobody does.
It basically changed the default behavior of the Finder to Find file. Which is dumb. You'd use Spotlight for that, and get pretty much the same window as a default Lion useless Finder window.
It's dumber.
It's like arguing with an Apple ad! Amazing. How did you ever come to the conclusion that you know what simplicity and elegance are? Honestly. But I agree with the general sentiment, simplicity and elegance are not dumb. Removal of features and addition of dumb features is dumb and neither simple nor elegant.
You don't seem to discern between simplicity and stupidity. One butten that does what you want is simplicity, one button that is to be used to drive one's car is stupid. It is more difficult because it is simple. That's not simplicity. Just dumb.
Yeah Lion with it's considerable feature trimmings sure is optimized, being probably the most resource hungry and yet at the same time the slowest iteration of OS X yet.
In fact, that's just sloppy programming. ML is bound to be faster, but it has nothing to do with features being cut and only your imagination that "mostly unused" features being cut "optimize" a system. Lion is the living breathing example of that being a fallacy.
Sure, as much as it is dumb to add everything that's shiny and lickable.
No doubt, but you don't discern beetween simplicity/elegance and dumb/limited.
Simple should never mean limited. Elegand should never mean dumb. If a feature is removed and the end product is less capable, that's dumb.
Steve Jobs is dead. Give it up, he could sell us this bullpucky, but his lesser fanbois just don't have it.
Lion is on the path of dumb. It doesn't really matter whether you accept it, that's where it ends.
Is it dumb or smart, elegant or convoluted to remove the Software Update into the MAS? Another dumb feature of ML.
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What is the gesture on the Magic Mouse to reveal the Notification Centre? Two finger swipe is already taken to transition between full screen apps.
Also, I just read 2008 Macs are unsupported. This includes the Unibody MacBook, too?
I think any Mac with integrated graphics from 2008 are unable to be upgraded. However I'm willing to bet there will be back door ways to get said operating system to work.
Pardon me for asking a really dumb question that springs from the above statement.
Perhaps Apple has research that refutes my concern, but I really wonder what percentage of owners of iOS devices just can't wait to get their hands on a desktop or laptop Mac and therefore, must be confronted with a familiar (i.e., dumbed-down) interface when they do.
From what I can see from my geezer vantage point (and what others have told me), most young people have their entire lives on their Smart Phones...Email, Facebook, Twitter, web browsing, audio, video, etc., etc.
What need do or will the majority of them ever have for a real computer?
Those who need a real computer are professionals, and those who have historically used one...you know, Apple's loyal user base of a quarter-century's duration. The same people who Apple, in its newfound affluence, is basically thumbing its nose at now.
Maybe I'm not close enough to the ground to see this. I wish someone would present a convincing argument that a significant portion of iOS device users will one day buy a real Mac, and with thus need their hands held in order to make the transition.
And I wish someone would present a convincing argument for why Apple can't let an iOS be an iOS device, and let a computer be a computer.
Please lord, oh please. Just give us back Save As. I can manage to deal with everything else. Pretty pretty please.
Yes, if you use the developer program Apple-ID in the App Store, these downloads show as free...
(I have not seen a response yet, maybe I'm a duplicate .... )