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Apple Releases First Leopard Update (10.5.1)

myamid said:
What?? Ok, usually I would agree with you... but for stacks??? Really?? Oh wait, you'd have to be kidding?

Anybody who used the dock to browse embeded folders sees Stacks as a giant, annoying, brain-dead step backwards. Seriously, how could apple remove a great tool?

Now if you barely used the dock to that effect before... then yeah... Ok... maybe stacks look "cool", but they ought to be better, that's all.

On the other hand, the translucent menu bar... well I don't look at it too much :p That's one of the things I can live with!
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I have to agree with myamid on this (atleast stacks, the menu bar I actually like, though I wish they had a control for opacity for people that don't.)

I like stacks, but man they need a third view option for the old view method for a folder, not having the ability to view embedded folders is a big step backwards.
 
Wah, didn't fix any of my problems. Mainly.. choppy mouse cursor. And stupid invisible files, being visible.
 

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Problem installing new update

I have a new SR macbook, it downloads the update fine, but when it restarts the computer and tries to install it, it says, "cannot validate package" and then aborts the install. Tried it a few times and keeps doing it. Not sure if there is way to delete the download of the package and re-download it to install.....any thoughts?

Thanks
 
arkmannj said:
I have to agree with myamid on this (atleast stacks, the menu bar I actually like, though I wish they had a control for opacity for people that don't.)

I like stacks, but man they need a third view option for the old view method for a folder, not having the ability to view embedded folders is a big step backwards.
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I agree here also. I never understood people's excitement over stacks because it always seemed to me to be a step backward. I can't tell you how often I wish that I could once again navigate through a series of folders in the dock as I could in Tiger.
I think it will only be a matter of time before Apple fixes the stack folders so that they are spring loaded
and makes the representational folders have unique icons in the dock.
 
Foxglove9 said:
Wah, didn't fix any of my problems. Mainly.. choppy mouse cursor. And stupid invisible files, being visible.
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I had this problem (invisible files being visible) when I first installed Leopard. I did a wipe of my hard drive and then a clean install and that didn't fix the problem. So, I did a "zero out" of my HD with the Leopard install DVD and that fixed the problem.

If you want it to be fixed for good, Zero out your hard drive and reinstall the OS.

-Tuck
 
I've figured out most of my stuff working with Leopard. Now, it's only the new Httpmail plug-in doesn't work with my Hotmail account (which I've had since 2001)... pretty annoying to check that email through Firefox, it doesn't work too well with Safari. ahh... Microsoft...
 
The Tuck said:
If you want it to be fixed for good, Zero out your hard drive and reinstall the OS.
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Interesting you mention that, because I first installed Leopard on a brand new hard drive. However it was FAT32 formatted or something, so I had to GUID partition it according to what Leopard told me to do, then reformat the drive. Originally I chose to zero out all data on the drive but it was going to take hours and I was so anxious to try Leopard I quit out and did the fast initialize instead.

Still is a bug though, because it never happened on the many installs I've done with Panther or Tiger.
 
Loudwater said:
I've figured out most of my stuff working with Leopard. Now, it's only the new Httpmail plug-in doesn't work with my Hotmail account (which I've had since 2001)... pretty annoying to check that email through Firefox, it doesn't work too well with Safari. ahh... Microsoft...
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Stay away from the update they released yesterday ..... it bluescreened my machine after install --- I'm currently backing up, wiping, and reinstalling everything. (I needed to, but didnt want to right now) I even booted off of a fw disk into Tiger, deleted the bundle, and still no go.

Had to do an archive and install to get it up and running again.
 
jersey said:
Stay away from the update they released yesterday ..... it bluescreened my machine after install --- I'm currently backing up, wiping, and reinstalling everything. (I needed to, but didnt want to right now) I even booted off of a fw disk into Tiger, deleted the bundle, and still no go.

Had to do an archive and install to get it up and running again.
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I actually just updated to 10.5.1, it works for me now...
Guess there are just some buggy points poking around anyone. Fingers crossed for my machine. I know the hassle you are talking about... enough of it...
 
I'm rather pleased with the update. I was actually feeling some regret for upgrading to leopard. It was running very sluggishly on my Macbook. Seems the update has made it very snappy.
 
Although this may be a little out of place in this particular forum, I'd be curious to know how this is affecting buyers of systems that came pre-shipped with Leopard as opposed to people upgrading from an earlier OS, which I suspect are most users here.
Reason I ask is because I'm currently a WinXP user considering taking the plunge to a MB and wondering if I should hold out for the .2 release.
Ok, I've pretty much decided I'm going to do it, but it's more a matter of waiting to see if a new MB will be introduced at MW in January. Considering the refresh the MB just received, my guess is no, but with the announcement of Penryn, do I wait for the next MB lineup or go with the current one?

Eh, I guess you could play the waiting game forever with that line of thinking. Maybe it'll come down to a coin flip :D
 
I don't think they'll have a new macbook in January. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no precedence for issuing an update so soon. You're more likely to see a sub notebook without an optical drive, if that even.

If you're new to mac, I'd definitely get the macbook with leopard pre-installed, because you don't have any mission critical apps already that may be broken by updating from Tiger to Leopard. Take advantage of the fresh start. :)
 
Why it takes longer to boot?

I installed the update. Everything seems to work fine except that it takes longer to boot the OS. I tired it three times already. Anybody knows what is happening?
 
It sucks some of you have issues with updates. Sounds like
the # of people with problems tend to be higher on the intel mac
side.

I'm on a G4 and have had no problems with fresh Leopard
and the update pack.
 
I WAS the one said:
I hate when people keeps complaining about the menu bar and the Dock. PLEASE... This is how it is guys, Panther brought the exposé effect, some people use it and some don't it also brought the dashboard, one feature that I personally don't hate but not use. it was all part of Panther, the new OS X. Then Tiger Brings Spotlight and I don't know what else... crap for some and godies for others... this time Leopard brings a lots of improvemnets inside and they just change a couple of things for eye candy only... the magic it's inside, and you will know it when out of this world apps start popping around next year. then you will love Leopard as much you love Tiger now. Manu bar and new Dock are here to stay. like or not. and still kick Vista A5S all the way!
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Actually Panther brought only system improvements and Expose. Tiger brought system improvements, Dashboard and Spotlight.
 
Mail

"Resolves an issue with syncing Mail accounts with .Mac in which multiple On My Mac folders appear in the Mailbox pane."

I have this multiple 'On My Mac' folders problem in Mail and the update did not fix it. Sure, not a big problem but why claim to fix a problem when it is not fixed? Anybody else have this glitch?
 
While installing this update, did anyone get the message about needing to update boot caches?
 
Still DVD-Player issues

I still get the error message, that DVD-Player couldn't start because the output device is used by another application when I insert a DVD. That sux.
 
myamid said:
Just a little tiger tip... you know you could have left-clicked and held the button down for half a second for the list to pop up right??? Worked like a charm for me since 10.1!!
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Yep, I was always aware of that tiring waste of time. Yeah, it's irritating if not time consuming to hold down on the mouse button waiting for that whereas Stacks is instant.
 
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