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Maybe Mojave, Catalina, Big Sur is designed to run so poorly on intel platform people will want to buy ARM desktops to get some modicum of performance back.
Upgraded from El Capitan to Mojave and the performance is horrible on a quad core i7 w fusion drive mbp.
For me Mojave was the best Mac Os Since Mountain Lion. On an i7 as well. Catalina is ok now, was horrible at launch.
 
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macOS BS...didn't they think about that nickname before calling it Big Sur?

Yepp ... when I started to read about Big Sur in this forum a couple of weeks ago I was a bit upset that people were talking "BS" all over the place ... up until I understood the "real" meaning in this context 🤣
 
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I updated and now I am having a lot of apps crashing. Cant use Parallels as the buttons to start the virtual machine aren't showing up, and I have a few VM's gone back to Catalina.
 
I unenrolled my two Macs in the beta software program yesterday so that I could install the official Big Sur when it becomes final, but even after doing this and a reboot I am getting prompted for the 11.0.1 beta in Software Update. Is this normal?
 
I unenrolled my two Macs in the beta software program yesterday so that I could install the official Big Sur when it becomes final, but even after doing this and a reboot I am getting prompted for the 11.0.1 beta in Software Update. Is this normal?

It just means that the software update check was done before you unenrolled. It’ll nag until you update, well it did for me last year. It will probably go away when you go to 11.0 public release.

I could be wrong, but that’s how it was for me last year.
 
It just means that the software update check was done before you unenrolled. It’ll nag until you update, well it did for me last year. It will probably go away when you go to 11.0 public release.

I could be wrong, but that’s how it was for me last year.

So, did you updated outside of System Preferences -> Software Update then? Or did the public release replace the beta in Software Update when it was released?

Forgive my ignorance, this is the first time I participated in the beta program. I was getting tired of the eGPU support in Mojave on my 2018 mini (and Catalina did not help in my case).
 
Not yet.

But interestingly apple did release a new build of catalina - as a full installer, version 10.15.7, build 19H4. Before it was build 19H2.
Actually 11.0.1 is now available as a full installer. Downloading now and will make a bootable usb.

There seems to be a pattern as to when apple release the full installers (at least for the later ones - obviously not the first few). They seem to be waiting for when public beta is available before making the full installer available - even to developers.
 
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No they haven't. Not in the last developer beta I installed. Then again, all those fixes are on the developers and not Apple. (NO anti-virus utility works on Big Sur either. Not yet anyway.)

Umm, do you even know what the OP was talking about? Two of the three functions (AD integration & Kerberos) that the OP posted about are directly under Apple's responsibilities as they are part of basic O/S functions for Enterprise customers. Apple and Cisco confirmed that the issue is in the Kerberos module in Big Sur and Apple would need to fix it.

Also, you second statement is also incorrect. There are a number of end point protection choices that are either currently in Beta (along with Big Sur) or released that utilize System Extension instead of Kernel Extensions.
 
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So, did you updated outside of System Preferences -> Software Update then? Or did the public release replace the beta in Software Update when it was released?

Forgive my ignorance, this is the first time I participated in the beta program. I was getting tired of the eGPU support in Mojave on my 2018 mini (and Catalina did not help in my case).

Nope. The public release replaced it in system update.
 
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It was released yesterday.

I just downloaded it. But just to keep on an external drive for now. Don't really want to install catalina anymore. I'm running mojave on one computer and bug sur on another.

Here are all the full installers that are currently available on software update preference pane (not betas though):

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Please could you explain where do you download 19H4, it is not clear to me from the information above, thank you
 
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