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Apple Releases First macOS Sierra 10.12.4 Public Beta With New Night Shift Mode

We actually use a color calibrator for our monitors so that all colors are accurate. No point in shifting that.

I like the color shifting on the iPad though, for reading before bed. So I guess that's nice.

How about some improved Metal/OpenGL(CL) drivers - now that would be exciting!
 
dantroline said:
A bit of a dystopian take, but I look at it like this: Microsoft and associated products/companies basically don't beta test properly (hardware and software), they use the un-consenting general public to do it for them post-hoc. This probably saves a bit of money and allows new technology to be rolled out early, so products end up cheaper at the outset but the consumer is randomly hit with badly defective stuff, like overheating hardware or unpatched security exploits that exist in the wild for ages and more frequent hardware turnover in many cases, so it costs more. Linux/BSD uses the willing public to beta test, but the market is small and motivations vary, so new technology is not as well supported, yet with a bit of time the user can get the most stable and powerful setup available for very little expenditure. Old hardware runs as new.

Apple's approach is still the 'just works' idea, but nowadays they are really testing just how many multiples of the original production cost they can charge for their products. Like many, I am willing to pay more to save the hassle of broken designs, incompatible hardware and software approaches etc. But for me the only reason I use an Apple computer at all at the moment is commercial software. Linux, I would argue, is the better choice for most people actually - if only they realised - because it saves a ton of money on new hardware and software licenses.
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While I mostly agree I wouldn't say Linux is ready for most people, in my experience you unfortunately have to tinker with it for a while before you can use external devices etc. Furthermore user interface isn't nowhere as easy as OS X although that will wary between different software. I do hope Linux would be a real option but unfortunately it isn't there yet, I could use it but I very much doubt my elderly relatives could unless I would first setup everything ready for them... :(
 
It works fine on my mid 2012 MacBook Air that I've been using for these betas.
I did have an issues with it going to the default color profile the first time I used it, but doesn't seem to be an issue now.
 
blackcrayon said:
It's the same Night Shift that has been in iOS since 9.3. Why would they use the same name for a completely different feature? It shifts the color temperature to be more comfortable (for some) in the evening, and might prevent a source of blue light from interfering with natural sleep patterns.
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In that case, both are pointless.
 
doctor-don said:
Don't people close their eyes anymore when they go to sleep?

None of my blue lights (motion-activated night light, clock-radio, chargers, bug lights) interferes with my sleeping.
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Not sure if serious or trolling, but the issue has nothing to do with "while sleeping." The idea is that humans evolved to take clues as to when to sleep by the spectrum of the light around them. Full, blue light spectrum tells the body it is the middle of the day and you should be wide awake, while more yellow light signals to the body to prepare for sleep.

This feature claims to help people who work on their machines right before they go to sleep to not have their brains "tricked" into thinking it is mid-day.

I personally, am not convinced that the light coming from my screen is more important than the many lights in the fixtures in my house, but it is possible and perhaps there are some academic articles that can show that the effect of night shift is significant, even with other incandescent lighting around.
 
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macOS Sierra 10.12.4 brings iOS's popular Night Shift mode to the Mac
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Article Link: Apple Releases First macOS Sierra 10.12.4 Public Beta With New Night Shift Mode
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Frankly, I would rather that Apple fix the connection between its latest laptops and the LG 4K monitor that Apple encouraged us to buy, since they claim to be out of the display business.

I’d rather have a reliable connection rather than night-mode.

Of course, I’ll take both, but fixing what does not work should come before adding yet more features.
 
Santabean2000 said:
Linux is for geeks. The vast majority of people just simply don't have the time or inclination to eff around with computers.
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Well, the amount of .plist editing needed to make macOS anywhere near usable in any but the most basic usage scenarios, combined with "simple 37-step instructions on how to remove a piece of software installed from a .pkg", make me laugh out loud at what you just said.
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Mac Fly (film) said:
The bug that doesn't exist in Night Shift's first macOS beta? Yeah, I know.
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I haven't seen the implementation of f.lux, but my guess is this: using documented APIs, they can tweak the screen gamma, but this won't affect the gamma of cursor images which are contained in a hardware overlay. I don't think you can tweak macOS cursors system-wide in memory — which is what Night shift can do because it can talk to drivers using their internal APIs.
 
kryten42 said:
No sign of night shift mode on my mid-2011 Mac Mini, not tried on rMBP or iMac yet.
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Same setup here. It also does not appear in systems preferences. I am using f.lux, which is nice, but the best is really the new technology on my iPad pro that changes the screen settings depending on the light environment. This beats night shift.
 
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After upgrading on my 2011 MBP I have noticed the colour depth has been significantly reduced while using the
AMD Radeon HD 6750M. There is now visible stepping in all my images! Everything looks fine while using Intel HD Graphics. Could this be apple trying to throttle problematic hardware? The 2011 MBPs are notorious for graphics card failure. It wouldn't be the first time Apple have done something like this. Also, night shift mode is nowhere to be seen!
 
mrcorr said:
After upgrading on my 2011 MBP I have noticed the colour depth has been significantly reduced while using the
AMD Radeon HD 6750M. There is now visible stepping in all my images! Everything looks fine while using Intel HD Graphics. Could this be apple trying to throttle problematic hardware? The 2011 MBPs are notorious for graphics card failure. It wouldn't be the first time Apple have done something like this. Also, night shift mode is nowhere to be seen!
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as best I can tell, Night shift only works on Retina Display models....and anything under 2012 does not support it. Sad.
 
have the issues with sleep problems been fixed when runing Adobe apps? my 5K iMac would go to sleep for no reason running earlier versions.
 
justperry said:
So Graphic artists always work on their computer while using it, they never use their computers for anything else.
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If its a work computer in an office that you're paying for, its a huge waste of money. It will cost you either a whole new computer, or a second screen to attach to it. Either way, it's a waste of cash.
 
I tried the Night Shift but had to go back to f.lux for a very simple reason: the timing of when the Night Shift kicks in seems to be way too late for me. With the time and time zone being setup correctly and Night Shift set to Sunset-Sunrise it always activated many hours after the sunset (maybe 4-5? don't know for sure) and that was too late.

With f.lux I can easily achieve more appropriate timing. Sure I can set the Night Shift to fixed times, but that doesn't follow the changes to the day length.

I wish they would implement an additional setting letting me to adjust the time difference between the sunset and the Night Shift activation (and similarly for the sunrise and Night Shift deactivation).
 
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