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You can schedule the install for say when you are sleeping. That option has been around for a while.

No thanks. It's a nice feature, but then when I pick up my device to actually use it the next day I'm plagued with stupid sign back in to iCloud and enter your passcode for every device you own prompts.
 
The "tech-savvy" users should know how to go into settings and turn those setting "completely off" already. Or 3D touch settings app on applicable devices to do so. Just sayin :)

I was referring to the convenience of the toggles when swiping up from the bottom of my SE. It's preferable to having to having to launch the Settings app to do what used to be so simple in iOS 10. That's why an option in the Settings would be a fine way to satisfy everyone.
 
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I’m tired of updating all of my devices every 7 days. Apple used to make things that “just work”. I will never again upgrade to a new operating system until it is on at least a .2 or .3 revision...
Why and how are you tired? What harm or stress does updating your iOS devices bring? If they didn’t publish updates I’m betting you would be moaning about that - seeing as you’re used to Apple things “just working”. You press update and leave the device for 10 minutes. Even if you have 20 devices, that’s not really a stress, is it? No one is saying it’s mandatory to update right this second and all devices need updated now or they will fall apart. Don’t like to update... don’t update. Simples.
 
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Why do people keep bringing up how many MB an update is? You do realize that a 100MB update does not mean that 104857600 characters in the source code were altered, right? If even one character of code is changed in a file that is 100MB when compiled, the entire 100MB file needs to be updated. In other words, very minor changes can result in very big downloads; and vice versa. You get this right?

For example, if I change one letter in a 5MB Word Document, you still need to download the entire document to get that one change.

Pretty sure they give us delta updates. So... it really depends on what was changed and where and how it is compiled into the rest of the OS. You are pretty much wrong because of the Delta updates (You can get the whole IPA and that is over 1gb easily)
 
I’m tired of updating all of my devices every 7 days. Apple used to make things that “just work”. I will never again upgrade to a new operating system until it is on at least a .2 or .3 revision...

Not sure what you are crying about. Just let the update download, apply, then restart your device & get on with your day.
 
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I had a fun time updating my iPad. My password was some letters, then some numbers, then a few special characters. The special characters were in particular easy to hit places on the iPad keyboard... so I didn't really know what the characters were.

I updated and the keyboard layout changed and I could not figure out the password so I had to reset and reload the whole iPad. I tried searching for the old iPad keyboard layout so I could figure out the keys but even when I did that, the new keyboard layout is so confusing that I have no idea where precisely the special characters are. e.g. where is the ascii '-' 0x2d at?

Yea, its cute that I can hit all the various unicode dash and hyphen characters will various jaw and elbow positions but what if I want a precise ascii character because of something idiotic like using them in a program or a password? Its not clear at all how to get plan ASCII characters instead of multibyte unicode characters that look very similar.

Its fine to give folks a choice but to change the keyboard used during log in across an update is rather short sighted.

It also use to be a cute shortcut that I could hold down the period and the options for .com, .org, .net, etc would pop up. No more!!! Now I get 93,245 options of different unicode characters that look sorta kinda similar to a period.


So it's Apple's fault that you don't know what your password is and instead treated the keyboard input as some sort of gesture input? lol.
 
I wish they'd remove the huge hideous app headlines (i.e. "Messages" in Messages and "All Inboxes" in Mail)

- no massive labels on messages and email

HA! I was thinking this as well. I didn't think anyone else had noticed how much real-estate they are taking up.

I was thrown off by the big heading areas at first, but then realized it helps with one-handed use. Items that I want to tap on are easier to reach thanks to the big headings (e.g. first new e-mail or message, all options in Settings).

Maybe they can adjust the typography to be more pleasant, but I don't want the size of the heading area to be any less. At least should be able to swipe down to get the maximum sized heading so that top items in a list are within reach.

It's a good way to push bigger screens like the iPhone X and Plus models (more expensive = more profit)!

No, it doesn't necessitate bigger screens because as soon as you start swiping down the list the headings go away. It does, however, help one-handed usability with bigger screens, so maybe it has something to do with the X with it's height, but I find the change useful even on my 4.7" 7.
 
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Seriously, WTF, if Apple should decide to invest some of their billions in profit they should really figure out how to do Q/A significantly better then they are, considering they have a very limited set of hardware and configurations to test on.

Yes, obviously QA should somehow test and be able to catch touchscreen issues from random-Chinese-touchscreen-import-of-the-week repair parts, that being something they're trying to address with 11.0.3.

Personally, I think Apple should just let such people twist, but that'd be PR they don't want.

Regarding your other rant, I agree, the Public Beta needs to go away, so that the 'l337s find something else to whine about. You can always tell... it's all the fools that show up begging for a build number.
 
After upgrading to iOS 11, I am waiting for 11.1 before applying any new "fix".

Seriously, WTF, if Apple should decide to invest some of their billions in profit they should really figure out how to do Q/A significantly better then they are, considering they have a very limited set of hardware and configurations to test on.

Also it is so obvious Apple's beta program is a joke as its aimed at sycophants that just want the latest OS version installed on their newest version of the device they just bought and have no real intention of providing quality feedback or bothering to install on older devices. All a rush to get their "first" before their friends and to busy showing off some new feature rather then figuring out if the OS build quality is any damn good.

Also if the focus on the beta program is to force developers to invest most of their time to figure out if their apps will work on the new OS, opposed to actual quality evaluation of the OS, then that is also a huge fail.

Apple can't rely on customer feedback, that hat PROVEN unreliable EVERY iOS release since they have offered general iOS beta, and Apple cannot continue to "dabble" in Q/A as a hobby project.

I expect more from a company that has the audacity to charge $1000 for a phone and then cheap out on the software that runs on it and requires 15 updates before it gets perfect, and then replaces it with another ****** bug prone major OS release a year later.
This and the fact that they block the way to go back to a previous iOS version is short of criminal
 
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No thanks. It's a nice feature, but then when I pick up my device to actually use it the next day I'm plagued with stupid sign back in to iCloud and enter your passcode for every device you own prompts.
Oh ok. Sounded like you didn't want the inconvenience of waiting for the OS to install and the device being unavailable for a few minutes. Guess I misread that. Just thought I would throw that out there in case you were not aware it was an option.
 
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Can someone tell me if this runs smoothly and good battery on a 6s. I'm still on iOS 9.3.5 and wondering if I should update now.
[doublepost=1507750770][/doublepost]Hey Buddy you can still update manually to iOS 10.3.3 in DFU Mode
 
No it doesn’t. 200+ million users on your new OS in one week finding lots of bugs in a short time is what’s happening. A problem no other vendor in the world has ever experienced since nobody has adoption rates anywhere near what happens with iOS.

Lmao can we just call it what it is? SLOPPY.
 
This many bugs in phones that haven't changed much in 5 years.
I can't even imagine how many bugs the iPhone X is gonna have... lol

Maybe we'll get a bi-weekly update with the iPhone X, then people can be so happy that Apple is on the case and responsive. Or, just maybe, people will start to realize how pathetic Apple's software development process has become and wake up to the fact that Apple's management is so out-of-touch that they let anything out the door, no matter how bad.
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I’m tired of updating all of my devices every 7 days. Apple used to make things that “just work”. I will never again upgrade to a new operating system until it is on at least a .2 or .3 revision...

Looks like you have to change that to .6 after iOS 11.
 
Oh ok. Sounded like you didn't want the inconvenience of waiting for the OS to install and the device being unavailable for a few minutes. Guess I misread that. Just thought I would throw that out there in case you were not aware it was an option.

It's all of it. The updates, signing in again... I have to do it for everyone I live with so it's a lot of devices to update... I have to wait for the people to be done with theirs (either asleep or off doing something else) do the updates, sign them back in, make sure everything works. Rinse and repeat. (First-world problems, I know..)
 
I've got an 8+, and getting it to work sometimes is a real PITA!

Like, yesterday, trying to move an app into a folder. ARG!!!! I finally just gave up and had the folder open all the way up to drop the app which meant then closing the damn folder to move another one to the same folder.

I think part of it is that I went from a 6+ to the 8+, and missed the whole start of the '3d touch' gimmick. I have also had the screen not respond to touches to do things like read emails, and start apps. Not quite the most intuitive feature I've ever encountered...
 
Did a clean install/restore of 11.0.3 using iTunes. (Skipped 11.0.2) On my iPad Pro 10.5, performance feels smoother and snappier. Battery seems improved as well; 24 mins on screen usage Safari and battery is still at 100%. So far so good Apple...
 
Any idea why I constantly get this message everytime I try to update over the air with all updates since ios 11? "Software Update Failed - an error occurring downloading ios 11.0.3"

I can only do it by hooking the ipad to the computer and downloading the 2 gig file...
 

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