Between what? And in what way?
The UI lag is gone, for example 3D touching an app on the home screen was jittery before. Also, everything seems snappier, especially Safari. It is a very noticeable improvement.
Between what? And in what way?
Please make my experience faster on my iPhone 6. I have become quite frustrated with how much iOS 11 has slowed my phone down.
UPDATE: iOS 11.1 installed. On the whole, it is definitely faster than 11.0.3; not as fast as 10.X.
My phone didn't even last half a day - battery performance is the worst I've had yetHow does 11.1 compare to 10.3.3 when it comes to performance and battery life (particularly on the iPhone 7)?
My phone didn't even last half a day - battery performance is the worst I've had yet
[doublepost=1509526103][/doublepost]Anyone else having extreme battery drain with this update? - Mine goes through 1% every 90 seconds!
I guess it's time to update my SE then from 10.3.3.
Seem so like their new habit of delaying everything. Bad thing to learn from Microsoft.Still no apple pay on messages or messages in iCloud. The only two features I wanted. Apple is ****ing up so much this year.
At least the wifi issue has been fixed.
Still no apple pay on messages or messages in iCloud. The only two features I wanted. Apple is ****ing up so much this year.
I'm 1 hour in and have had 2 apps crash. Still buggy AF. They're focused on emojis instead of core issues I guess.
Confirmed: 11.1 backs up to iTunes 12.6.3 with iPhone 7/256.Could somebody check if this update can still sync with iTunes 12.6.3.
Or does it reguire iTunes 12.7?
I'm done. I made the mistake of finally upgrading to IOS 11 today and the new iTunes and both are GARBAGE. Absolute utter GARBAGE. They trained us to use iOS one way for last the last 8 years and now it just feels BROKEN and for no reason. Not only that but it seems like the iPad version works slightly different than the iPhone version and now instead of simple swipes, I feel like I'm stuck in gesture heck. This is WORSE than Android now. The reason I LOVED Apple was it's reliability and most of all USABILITY both of which are gone. This is my breaking point. I'm hoping it's not to late to cancel my X preorder - I just put in a request to do it. But under Tim Cooke & Jony Ive Apple has really been terrible the last few years. I'm tired of giving them chance after chance. I need to figure out how to downgrade all my stuff.
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Own an iPad Air 128GB, Macbook Pro 2012, 2015 Maxed Out, ATV 4K 64 GB, ATV 4, iPhone 6s (128GB) 500 Movies and TV Shows on iTunes.
My phone didn't even last half a day - battery performance is the worst I've had yet
[doublepost=1509526103][/doublepost]Anyone else having extreme battery drain with this update? - Mine goes through 1% every 90 seconds!
dempson Seniorius Lurkius et Subscriptor Oct 31, 2017 8:33 PM
citpeksThat was me. I've been too busy recently to start to investigate the more recent Wi-Fi fixes in iOS 11.0 let alone the KRACK attack, but I do have one piece of data which may cast some light on why Apple says this fix only applies to the iPhone 7, 9.7-inch iPad Pro and later models:wrote:
FWIW, Asus routers still haven't been patched for KRACK purportedly because they're still waiting on updates from Broadcom, so the hardware, or code close to it, does play a role.
As for Apple, the Broadpwn vulnerability carried similarly vague language suggesting that older devices weren't patched.
A user on Macintouch took it upon themselves to do some testing, and found that many of the older devices didn't exhibit signs of vulnerability.
The set of fixed models has a later major version of the Broadcom Wi-Fi firmware (9.x or newer), whereas older iOS models are running Broadcom 7.x or earlier. There are major architectural changes in 9.x: it looks like it shifted to running most of the Wi-Fi stack on the host rather than the Wi-Fi chip.
This means these situations are possible:
(a) The vulnerability only exists in iOS devices new enough to use Broadcom 9.x or later, therefore no patch is required for anything older; or
(b) Apple is waiting for Broadcom to issue patches for 7.x and/or earlier versions, which hasn't happened yet; or
(c) Broadcom is not going to patch older versions of their firmware so older devices will remain vulnerable.
All we know for certain from the researcher is that the iPhone 7 was vulnerable, and based on firmware version numbers that would cover everything newer.
If Apple doesn't release a more definitive statement, the only way to be sure would be for someone to set up a Wi-Fi network to implement one or all of the KRACK attack variants, and use it to test older versions/devices.
I did that for BroadPwn as it was easy enough to set up on anything running Linux with Wi-Fi hardware that allowed the host to supply arbitrary data for certain packets. KRACK looks like it will be more fiddly.
I haven't looked at the Wi-Fi firmware for the iPhone 8/8+/X yet (they are probably Broadcom 9.x), but among models that could run iOS 10.3.3, these have Broadcom 9.x (some models with A9 processors, all models with A10 processors):
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus
iPad (5th gen) - 2017 model
iPad Pro 9.7
iPad Pro 10.5
iPad Pro 12.9 (2nd gen)
The iOS models running Broadcom 7.x are all those with A8 and the older ones with A9 processors:
iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6S, 6S Plus, SE
iPad Air 2
iPad Pro 12.9 (1st gen)
iPad mini 4
iPod Touch 6
iOS models with A7 processors are running Broadcom 6.x:
iPhone 5S
iPad Air
iPad mini 2, 3
Older iOS models with A6 processors limited to iOS 10.x are also running Broadcom 6.x:
iPhone 5, 5C
iPad 4
Some older iOS models with A5 processors limited to iOS 9.x are also running Broadcom 6.x (these are the ones introduced in late 2012; they are still vulnerable to CVE-2017-6975, the bug fixed in iOS 10.3.1 in the area of 802.11r Fast Transition):
iPad mini (1st gen)
iPod Touch 5
Earlier iOS models with A5 or earlier processors are running Broadcom 5.x or earlier.
Again, FWIW.
Apple could do themselves and their users a favor by becoming more forthcoming.
Agreed. It would have certainly saved me much investigative work.
What about battery life? Is it better?
Wait that means the older iPhones and iPads that were able to update to latest iOS are still vulnerable to that WiFi Krack… Correct?
From https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201222
Wi-Fi
Available for: iPhone 7 and later, and iPad Pro 9.7-inch (early 2016) and later
Impact: An attacker in Wi-Fi range may force nonce reuse in WPA clients (Key Reinstallation Attacks – KRACK)
Description: A logic issue existed in the handling of state transitions. This was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2017-13080: Mathy Vanhoef of the imec-DistriNet group at KU Leuven
See above posts (there are a few) regarding this topic. Apparently the older devices are not vulnerable anyway due to a faulty iOS implementation of WPA2 (seems only the correct implementation became vulnerable) or were patched in iOS 10.3.3.I just spoke to an Apple Advisor and I can confirm that the latest WiFi Krack vulnerability is ONLY fixed for iPhone 7 and iPad Pro 2016 and later, and NOT for all other devices that were able to update!!!
See above posts (there are a few) regarding this topic. Apparently the older devices are not vulnerable anyway due to a faulty iOS implementation of WPA2 (seems only the correct implementation became vulnerable) or were patched in iOS 10.3.3.
This is purely speculative. It is also possible that they are still vulnerable. One plausible possibility is that Apple is waiting for Broadcom to fix their firmware for chips used in the devices that didn't receive a patch in 11.1, as indicated in the post that @vlad_djkax quoted above.See above posts (there are a few) regarding this topic. Apparently the older devices are not vulnerable anyway due to a faulty iOS implementation of WPA2 (seems only the correct implementation became vulnerable) or were patched in iOS 10.3.3.
Many thanksConfirmed: 11.1 backs up to iTunes 12.6.3 with iPhone 7/256.