Sure optimization etc is good. Not so long ago 7+ destroys X/8 in Speedtest.
But PLANNED obsolescence is not true.
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Sure optimization etc is good. Not so long ago 7+ destroys X/8 in Speedtest.
But PLANNED obsolescence is not true.
I don’t think it’s truly turned on yet. I just spoke to Apple Care. They didn’t seem to have a clue. Another rep told me it’s probably just not active as yet.
We’re debating semantics here at this point, and agree to disagree I suppose.
A company that is supposedly set on “attention to detail” *HAS* to be aware of this being a reputation of theirs, older devices slowing down
The average consumer isnt a software engineer, but that is a common belief that planned obsolescence is in effect from people off the streets.
Why is that? The average person doesnt lurk on forums or MR.
It’s Because they’ve had one too many bad experiences with one too many upgrades on their existing gear.
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Apple *HAS* to be aware of new iOS sucking on older versions, but given the moaning and groaning leads people to upgrade (ive seen it on here PLENTY of times — “runs like crap BUT I’m getting the new one anyways so-“ type logic, it works! It really works!)
However, they are unwilling to spend efforts to fix that perception, so much so articles have to benchmark devices to disprove the ‘theory’ and lead people misled on semantics of what people are referring to when they say slowdown Of their experience being worse, vs blogs de-bunking CPU performance folk lore that no simpleton ever contested or brought up or knows what they are even talking about with benchmark hoopla.
People only notice it because, unlike most of the competition, Apple devices actually keep working long enough and are supported by software updates long enough for these issues to be noticeable. Buy an android phone and you’re lucky to get one major software update, if that.
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Happened a lot in the betas. Go into airplane mode for 30 seconds and then turn it off and they should come back.
It's merely "fix it while not broken: you can always fall back onto a new device"
So helpful. For their own sales.
Apple Pay Cash not showing up on my device either--- weird that they didn't mention when it would happen in the release notes / split that out into 11.2.x
They rushed this update out to solve the reboot loop bug that was about to hit everyone, and didn’t even take the time to update the release notes. The plan was not to release last night, clearly, so none of the backend systems for Apple Pay cash are turned on. This is very sloppy, since the beta still had longstanding bugs in it.
Bringing in android to the discussion is completely irrelevant here.
Ofc iOS is better than Android in many ways. Thats not whats I’m here to debate.
Let’s hold iOS to the standard it was once held to, tho.
I think people would prefer no more updates issued, if it meant the experience itself would be destroyed, or the ability to roll back to previously best working version at the very least. and again, a year old device, the 7, runs poopy on iOS 11 so ive read MANY times in this forum. thats not the hardware, thats the lack of care from Cupertino. Period.
When iPhone 4 gets iOS 7, and runs like a dog, and no way to go back to iOs 6, just as an isolated example, that destroyed the device performance wise for many people.
yes is did, if you are not going to be helpful than please keep to your self.
But, what technology out there gets better (or even stay the same) with age or with new features? Name me some. If you want it to be same, then don’t update at all after 1st month of ownership. But then don’t whine about not having new stuff or that new apps won’t work on your old software. Easy fix.
Xbox 360.
So many dash upgrades.
Completely different animal over its lifecycle that made me wonder how it was the same hardware. That only got better and better.
Apple products. At one point in Time.
That’s my point too. Android phones don’t have this reputation not because the os is so fast and great, but because no one ever installs a system update.
Expected = old devices will run like crap.
Expectation 2 = I ain’t updating to .2 on my 1 month old $1000 phone. Ill let others try it out. Cause measly updates have burned me, never mind old devices and planned obsolescence chatter.
Neither are great From my perspective
Xbox hardware hasn’t changed much over the years, certainly not much compared to iOS. So they focus for ten years on the same small set of hardware. Apple has to move on - they can’t sell one model as top of the line for three years in a row.
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Don’t update your os - use the os it came with -and it will run identically to how it ran out of the box.
Good point with same hardware.
But again, Apple at one point could be held to that standard.
Or people not upgrading their macs hardware wise for YEARS, and having OS X run like butter.
Sierra to High Sierra, on 2017 gear, has turned into an immediate constant diffusing dumpster fire.
It’s embarassing. The macOS side of things is way crazier, but iOS is sloppy too considering Apple is now an iPad/phone-centric company.
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That then takes the wind out of the sails of Android getting no updates but Apple being supported for years. If updates break the experience, are they even updates worth touting about, when getting into the religious and holy android vs ios chatter.
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Look, Apple has problems, argue about it however you want. It used to be you hit the update button and let apple do all the problem solving. Now you have to solve your own problems and form your own decisions — update? Don’t update? Improvements worth it? Not worth it? Battery? Performance?
Sloppy is sloppy and a pig with lipstick on, is still a pig. The competition being sloppy, doesnt take away from the topic at hand, being its own form of a mess. They dont have to be mutually exclusive.
No. Macrumors speculates this. The release notes say nothing.
I’ve owned every model of iPhone since the first one. I cannot remember a time when people weren’t making this same complaint.
I’ve also owned many macs, dating back to the exponential x704 days. And they used to complain about OS X doing that too. But the pace of change in macOS has slowed to a crawl so there isn’t as much of a problem now.
It was never perfect, but its gotten SUBSTANTIALLY worse
I dunno how that one can be up for debate, but to each his own