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I don't understand, from a technical standpoint, why Messages sync is apparently such a hard problem for them to solve. I know I'm probably just not understanding the problem properly, but it sure doesn't seem like it should take this much time to sort out.
Any kind of sync is an incredibly hard problem to solve. There are just so many variables that can go wrong when deciding on canonical data and displaying the canonical data in a timely manner (I.e. appearing instantly at all sync points at once). With something as critical as messages with all the layers of privacy and security it entails you best better hope they fully bake it before they release, regardless of how long you have to wait.
 
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If people on the betas have the same as the final release why does one have iMessages on iCloud and not the other? Also if you were on the betas and want to move to the public release, what happens to your iClouded messages? You lose them?
Still enabled for me here in build 15E5216a (same as release except the a at the end). Are people with the release just not seeing the Messages toggle in iCloud?
 
The omission of iCloud sync for messages is really disappointing. Was one of my favourite things promised in iOS 11 and now we are almost at iOS 12 with it still missing.

You and me both!

I'm actually hopeful when iMessages in iCloud goes full public it'll be done right, robust for years to come. Plus a have a very close friend who is freaking out on her iPhone 6Plus: No more storage ... has oodlese of messages she needs to keep (not to mention the media within) and no space to even update iOS). When iMessages in iCloud goes live ...

then she'll kill out a few apps that keep data in their respective clouds, then she can reboot, update IP6 with horrible battery affected by cold temperatures and finally be able to download her data from the revamped iCloud when that goes live. Then she can repair her iphone under the battery program and sell it or keep as a travelling spare for her family.
 
*Beware*

This update broke me playing music in my car from my phone via a lightning usb cable connected to my car's audio system. Confirmed it was the update by checking with multiple other iOS devices, those that weren't updated still worked fine, others that were updated also couldn't connect anymore to my car's audio system. It's one of the highlights of my day to jam to music as I drive so this is a really big bummer for me right now.

This is a VERY important feature for me, given that bluetooth audio has been very unreliable for me, and USB has been absolutely perfect

Please report this to apple feedback (for all of us who need this):
https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

I can't report this since I'm going to hold off upgrading given your experience.

HAS ANYONE ELSE TRIED USB AUDIO ON 11.3? Please report USB audio experiences positive or negative
 
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This is a VERY important feature for me, given that bluetooth audio has been very unreliable for me, and USB has been absolutely perfect

Please report this to apple feedback (for all of us who need this):
https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

I can't report this since I'm going to hold off upgrading given your experience.

Anyone else experience this?
Only if the cable is fried. Check that the third pin isn’t discoloured on either side.
 
iPhone 8 VZW says 99% on battery health but coconut battery says 97% so idk wtf to believe.
alll i know if this battery is terrible, makes me want to buy a new iPhone 7 and sell this for the bigger battery!
 
Apple is getting really good at over promising and under delivering. One can only hope that they are trying to ensure a flawless (relatively speaking) roll out of Messages in the cloud. The fact they can build a terrestrial star ship of an HQ but not deliver on this feature is telling.

Looks like Apple has been taking a long large page out of IBM's history prior to 2003 lol.
 
iOS 10 user here, worth updating yet?

Ha I am still on iOS 9.0.2! :D
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*Beware*

This update broke me playing music in my car from my phone via a lightning usb cable connected to my car's audio system. Confirmed it was the update by checking with multiple other iOS devices, those that weren't updated still worked fine, others that were updated also couldn't connect anymore to my car's audio system. It's one of the highlights of my day to jam to music as I drive so this is a really big bummer for me right now.

Try rebooting the iDevice, failing that do a fresh install on iTunes
 
I’m switching to Android. No updates to worry about!

The die-hard Android crowd over at Engadget will try to cover this by saying they still receive minor security updates whilst also trying to explain why they don’t need newer OS’s features.

Been there multiple times. It’s laughable.
 
VERY impressed with the AML feature. My wife works for BT on this side of the emergency services. She made a test 999 call last night using 11.2 and it plotted her phone with a radius of about 2km. Upgraded to 11.3 and it pinpointed directly to our house! amazing, that's a life saver!
 
We can start comparing charging techniques now to see which ones are best on the battery.

The battery in my iPhone X purchased on launch day has a maximum capacity of 99%. I charge overnight via fast wireless (Mophie) and occasionally plug in while driving long distances in my car.
My X bought a week after launch is at 98%. I charge overnight with the standard wired Apple charger with occasional car charging :/
 
*Beware*

This update broke me playing music in my car from my phone via a lightning usb cable connected to my car's audio system. Confirmed it was the update by checking with multiple other iOS devices, those that weren't updated still worked fine, others that were updated also couldn't connect anymore to my car's audio system. It's one of the highlights of my day to jam to music as I drive so this is a really big bummer for me right now.

Hmm I’ll try this later, what car do you have?
 
Still enabled for me here in build 15E5216a (same as release except the a at the end). Are people with the release just not seeing the Messages toggle in iCloud?

You're exactly right. Just no mention of it, no set up, no toggle. My guess is people on the beta keep it because you guys are testing it. Well I'm not up in arms about it like most people on here, looking forward to having the feature but will wait until it's ready - I'm sure those moaning are the same who'd be complaining if Apple rushed out the feature and something screwed up with their messages.

Also worth remembering for anyone who doesn't intensely follow the beta process - 99.9999999% of people, it'll be as if nothing ever happened. So all this Apple is done for talk is rubbish.
 
The answer is that it’s Beta and there are bugs. Some people have had it come back after a restart. Also, sometimes beta features don’t work perfectly. Also, Crapple is a weak insult.
It only worked for me in beta 2. Never again anymore. It looks like Apple doesn't want it to work with third party batteries.
 
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