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My 15 Pro Max is definitely running warmer since this new update that’s for sure while performing what should be none intensive tasks.
This afternoon I took 6 photos for an expenses claim at work and the back of the phone felt quite warm through the case.
Listened to a podcast on the way home from work in the car and again the rear of the case felt quite warm.
Last week I had no issues, listened to Apple Music in the car while also using Apple Maps for navigation and it was barely warm.
 
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The issue isn't entirely resolved. I was on a 60-minute Teams call this morning and my iPhone 15 Pro Max was very warm by the end. Not hot, but certainly a lot warmer than my iPhone 12 Pro Max would get during Teams calls.
 
I would expect the next 17.1 beta to merge this fix in. Can you wait a little bit?
Looks like I have no choice. My phone wasn’t getting warm on 17.02 but when updating to the beta. Now it stays warm. It does not get hot only when it updated. Just annoyed of me being inpatient.
Pro Max 256 GB. I suppose it’s not just one factor. Some combination of foreground and background activities is causing to overheat.

This was 6th time this overheating occurred when some camera activity was taken up and 1st after update to 17.0.3. Actually, it heats up after finishing the shooting and you press the power button to lock the screen, and you start feeling the heat in your pocket.

So, I soft reset the phone, then closed(Swipe Up) all other open Apps, and took again some snaps and videos, opened Photos App for upload to cloud, and now the phone did not Overheat.
So my phone out the box updated to 17.02. Never got even slightly warm. My dumb a$$ updated to beta 17.1 beta 1. Now gets warm\ and hot while charging all the time. And of course for some reason we cannot downgrade
 
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The heating on using native Camera and Photos App is still persisting for me even after updating to 17.0.3.

Taking 4-5 pics in quick succession results in overheating.
Guess we need to know what the photo’s were of to see if it justifies being hot? Kidding. :)
 
And yet, Gruber... didn’t call the heating “a nothing burger”.

Sure seems like he did!

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He acknowledged that there was some kind of software problem causing overheating. A that time, rumors pointed at Instagram and some others. Apple’s recent posts suggest that the problem was either a bug in iOS or at lest something that they could catch and handle with an OS patch. Gruber was arguing against Ming-Chi Kuo’s assertion (without backing) that the problem was due to the design of the iPhone hardware.

Point taken on his post being about software - Gruber makes a case about it being an iOS/app issue and how the report negatively impacts stock (I wonder if stock impact is his real issue, lol).

I doubt I would have reacted as negatively is the headline was "iPhone 15 OverheatGate likely a fixable software issue, not hardware."

Gruber wasn’t being a fanatic in this case.

We may just disagree on him. His defense of Apple is almost always "But Apple told me there isn't a problem."

But he's not a reporter, he's an apple enthusiast. I need to keep it in mind. I just wish he was as skeptical about Apple as he is with Apple's competitors. People here are definitely experiencing overheating.

It doesn't bother me to the point I'll stop reading. I still enjoy his site!
 
15 Pro… only time phone gets hot, but not nearly too hot to hold, is when playing Asphalt 9. After 17.0.3 the heat level seems very close to same as prior to the update, maybe only a bit less heat.

Are there other apps besides instagram that we can test this with?
 
So if I’m reading your edit correctly, after the phone settled down post update it’s actually running significantly FASTER now?
not faster but probably normal.
I suspect there was something running in background when I run the first test too.
 
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Ten years ago there weren't even 5 generations worth of iPhone to make updates for, and each year only had one main configuration with two colors available.

In contrast, iOS 17 is compatible with 23 devices and iPad OS 17 is compatible with 20 devices. So, in total, 43 different devices are receiving this software. Software, which is exponentially more complicated than it was 10 years ago, with many more APIs and specific applications to account for.

What's remarkable is that in less than 2 weeks, they've been able to identify, correct, test, and deploy a fix.
Not to mention these are edge cases, and the vast vast majority of users of running without issue.
 
Not to mention these are edge cases, and the vast vast majority of users of running without issue.
And I still don't understand what the alternative here is: we stop getting updates? Would just one update a year make some people happy?

They counter with "well they should have the software not broken upon release." Software is rarely, if ever, released "broken." Issues are discovered after the fact because your test base goes from a few hundred to a few thousand to a few million. Sometimes features are held back for later release because they aren't ready yet, which seems to me to be the opposite of releasing broken software.

I'm going to make the assumption that people who say things like that have not worked in the tech industry. As always, don't you think if it was as simple as "not releasing broken software that doesn't need constant patches," that would happen?
 
Update definitely improved my 12 pro max which has been running hot for a while now. Went to a concert last night. Took tons of video. posted videos on IG. Used Uber to get home and battery was aces and didn’t get hot even leaving the phone unlocked w IG uploading the videos. Win for me. Now get my new 15 pro max in a few days. Let’s see.
its also hilarious that the ones who don’t use social media act holier than thou. It’s so ’cringe’ 😂😂😂😂. Ok ok you’re so much better than us 🤣🤣🤣
 
nice, quick fix out. now fire the inept engineers who manage to miss it in the first place.
Yes by all means let's create a blame culture so we make shore no one ever reports anything thay see so they can keep their job, that will create no problems down the road. I 'm not saying sweep things under the rug, focus on processes that avoids these errors in the first place.
 
Maybe some of you guys who've been here for years can chime in but... it sure seems like there's way too many updates these days compared to ten years ago. Seems like every few days, there is a reported issue, then I have to sit through another update. And another, and another, and another and... it's just out of control.
you don't have to update your device, be well. :)
 
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Even the best developers write buggy software. It's about deadlines and QA, not about bad developers. And even in the best circumstances, bugs happen. There is no such thing as bug-free software at this scale.
Totally agree, not to mention each tweak of the software for the vast number of devices that will run iOS 17. Bugs are inevitable. Most importantly, Apple addressed this one, released a fix.
 
I like how iOS 17 is more polished in many ways. Check my reddit post.

For me negatives are only regarding thermal/battery performance particularly on Cellular (LTE). Or it's just that my phone is getting older...
Thanks for your feedback. It's a shame the battery has taken a hit. I'm still on 100% but also in no particular rush for the newer features and may just wait until a iOS17.X release. My current plan is limited to LTE (no 5G) so this might contribute to my Mini not running too hot on calls or even watching streaming content offline.
 
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