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Apple Releases iOS 17.0.3 With Fix for iPhone 15 Pro Overheating
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I updated my 14 Pro to this overnight using the automatic update option, and this morning when I took my iPhone off the Mag Safe charger it wasn't warm at all. All the time in the past, it has been. Will be interesting to see if this continues, and that this fix was something deeper.
Looking at things from the perspective of your own industry always leads to a "people just don't understand how difficult this job is" mentality, but I get you - and agree to a point, in relation to minor problems. But when new software DOES break things that should have been tested, it's not acceptable.
Example:
The new iCloud web interface strips reminders of their repeating information when they are checked off via the widget, and chucks them in the 'completed' folder. Totally unacceptable and destroyed my workflow. Made me think about going back to OmniFocus, which I ditched a few years ago because Reminders had become so 'good'.
As a retired software engineer, I can tell you that no one can possibly anticipate every possible scenario that could break the code. Engineers try to determine test cases that could possibly occur and write what are called unit tests that check the performance and correctness of each block of code with with tests that insert data they predict could happen. That is typically one person doing that job for each section of code. Engineers do not have the resources of millions of people. They do not have test suites of Asphalt 9, Uber, and Instagram running to find bugs. It is not their job to find apps that could break it. Engineers test their code on the micro level, seeing that each function and data structure does what it’s supposed to do. Code is only as good as its unit tests, which must all pass before code can be released to QA.
Once the engineers have signed off on their code, it then moves to QA who spend months writing tests plans and dreaming up scenarios that could break the code. They run two types of tests, on specific code presented to them in isolation, and what they call regression tests, which tests interaction of that code with other, untouched, code since any piece of new code could potentially break older bug free code. That could potentially be running Instagram or whatever, but this is a human being who has to think of what millions of apps could potentially do.
Code then goes outside the house to beta testers. Beta testers have access to a far wider range of tests since every one of them has a different way of using software and a wider range of apps used. Apparently no one running those three apps reported an issue during beta testing. Beta tests aren’t for giving eager tech lovers early access to software for fun. They’re for finding bugs. I would bet most beta testers have never reported a single bug even if they find one. How many Instagram users running with hot phones never reported it? How many people here run betas but do it for fun and not for the purpose betas were designed for?
This was indeed a somethingburger. Let's start out with the fact Apple's QC did not discover this issue before releasing this new hardware & software. Then, Apple only did something about it when the customers who spent hundreds of dollars had to complain loudly about this overheating problem.
Also, let's not call this fixed yet, shall we? Yes the one benchmark Geekbench appears unchanged, but let's give the experts & sleuths who grace us with all of the free testing on various dedicated sites examine this issue further to see if this was truly a fix or did Apple just reroute this problem by gimping another feature that has yet to be discovered.
Okay, if this is going to get granular, then let's get granular. Is it Apple's responsibility to test 3rd party applications (unoptimized applications at that)? If they also contributed to this heating problem, then shouldn't you be placing the blame on the developers of those applications, especially since they had access to multiple beta releases iOS 17?
Your silence is deafening when it comes to that, but yeah, let's solely put the blame on Apple's QC for not discovering an issue that may not have been their issue to begin with.
BL.
Oddly enough I didn’t experience any overheating on my 15 Pro Max but my mom did on her iPhone 15 Pro. She installed 17.0.3 today and it seems to have fixed the issue.
Granular? This overheating issue was all over the friggen news. Even my local 1-2 news stories a day site had this issue featured. Developers? Maybe, but I have yet to find any factual information on how they contributed to this problem other than Apple says so, which is why my "silence is deafening", because I look at facts & data, not excuses.
Except it was hit or miss. I didn’t notice any overheating. My mom did. 17.0.3 seems to have fixed it without affecting performance.
Unfortunately I don't see it occurring any time soon - Google has been fighting that war for a while with Android 14 being the latest attempt to clamp down on badly written resource hogging applications that ruin the experience for Android users but there will be fall out when a whole new group of people will complain that their favourite app isn't working properly. If Apple does something similar to Android you'll hear people complain that their oh so important application, some random app written by some guy working out of a toilet cubical in Siberia isn't working then this forum will be filled with the brim of those individuals complaining.
There have been user reports of their phones heating up when making calls, using the built-in camera app, and just charging. All of which don't involve 3rd party apps.
But yeah let's put the blame on 3rd party devs, because Apple said so.
But yeah let's put the blame on 3rd party devs, because Apple said so.
Yes, granular. I'll say it again: It is not Apple's responsibility to test 3rd party applications. That is up to the developer of those applications, which is why they have (or should have) access to the betas of iOS 17, so they can test the functionality of their applications with the device, let alone the OS. If their applications were not optimized for that version of iOS that is on them, NOT APPLE.
Part of your frustration is misplaced, as you've vented none of that frustration at the developers of those applications and solely at Apple.
BL.
Then I would be questioning what you are looking at, because it was more than publicly stated that unoptimized apps were causing a problem. The proof? The very first post in this thread:
Apple confirmed that there was a bug in late September, and said that it would be fixed with an update to iOS 17. Some third-party apps had also been overloading the A17 Pro chip, leading to problems with heat dissipation. Apps affecting performance included Instagram, Uber, and more, and in addition to releasing an update to address the iOS 17 issue, Apple has also been working with app developers to optimize apps causing problems.
Perhaps looking further into how facts and data are discovered are in order, because this was glaringly obvious from the first reports of the overheating.
BL.
You may want to do some education on Media Literacy to understand how any why news stories circulate.
Like I already said, “says Apple”. Got any objective proof apps were part of this overheating issue? I could not find any. Thanks.
Oh, you mean like:
The Best News For The IPhone 15 That We Could Know - GEARRICE
Good news finally arrives for the iPhone 15 after several bad ones, and it is that the problems with the heating of the batteries that angered many of its
www.gearrice.com
Oh.. and even one relating to charging with various USB-C chargers:
Apple addresses iPhone 15 overheating with a new iOS 17 update
Cool your iPhone 15 off with a new update.
www.theverge.com
Again, the 3rd party apps contributing to this. Or, even the entire thread here dedicated to this:
With the latter link, do me a favor. Please list all gaming apps that come stock on a newly delivered iPhone. We'll be waiting.
BL.
I used to beta MMOs a lot, and pretty much 100% within an hour of going live someone either broke something or exploited something, and servers were down almost the rest of the day
