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Apple Releases iOS 17.3 and iPadOS 17.3 With Stolen Device Protection, Collaborative Apple Music Playlists and More

What happens if the faceid camera is damaged? I get locked out of my phone forever? Cant undo findmy.
 
jujubi said:
What happens if the faceid camera is damaged? I get locked out of my phone forever? Cant undo findmy.
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Nope. If you're in a trusted location (i.e. your house) you can just use your passcode to bypass biometrics.

"When Stolen Device Protection is enabled, certain actions have additional security requirements when your iPhone is away from familiar locations such as home or work."
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212510
 
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bradl said:
This one is the big one for me. It will be interesting to see if they used software to disable the Blood Oxygen meter in the S9 and U2. If they did for those already purchased before the ban went into effect, then a lot of watches will have been gimped.

BL.
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Running 10.3 on my Series 9 LL/M.

Everything works 9 just fine. As expected……… 😉
 
onenorth said:
I think the idea is that if someone steals your phone and forces/tricks you to unlock it with your face/finger, they still will have to wait an hour and have you do it again, which is unlikely to happen.
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That wasn't the case SDP was created to thwart, though. Not primarily anyway.

The related, widely publicised security risk last year was that thieves shoulder-surf or otherwise obtain your phone's passcode, then pickpocket your phone and before you know it you're down a phone and Apple ID.

With Stolen Device Protection in this same situation the thief is prevented from doing many security-critical operations without Touch / Face ID and in some cases a security delay while the phone is outside a familiar location like your home, but they can absolutely open Contacts, check where you live, and then take the phone near your home to gain full control with the passcode they obtained.

This is still much preferred to how it used to be, but it's important for people to understand the limitations of SDP.

Quotes from Apple's info page on SDP:

"When your iPhone is in a familiar location, these additional steps are not required, and you can use your device passcode like usual."

"Your device may end the security delay early after it detects that you’ve arrived at a familiar location."
 
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Anyone see this before?

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It is telling of our times, that a wallpaper celebrating Black History Month is taking up most of the release notes. Then that awesome new safety feature, and lastly, the highly anticipated Collaborative Playlists. Two of the best updates Apple has released for ages. Its a release note, not a political statement fcol… no wait, I guess it is.
 
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sw1tcher said:
🤷‍♂️ Do you see 16.7.5 under Software Update?

I'm on 16.7.2 and ever since Apple released iOS 17.1, I've not been able to get any further iOS 16 updates -- no 16.7.3, no 16.7.4, no 16.7.5. I only see iOS 17 updates because Apple wants me (us?) to upgrade to iOS 17 so they will have good iOS 17 usage stats.
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Nope, I am presented only with 17.3.
I remember 16.x.x OTA versions used to appear back in the weeks after 17 has been released.. but not anymore.
Thanks though.
 
Stolen Device Protection is not available for iPadOS, but you can search for it while no option is found visually lmao
 
Puonti said:
That wasn't the case SDP was created to thwart, though. Not primarily anyway.

The related, widely publicised security risk last year was that thieves shoulder-surf or otherwise obtain your phone's passcode, then pickpocket your phone and before you know it you're down a phone and Apple ID.

With Stolen Device Protection in this same situation the thief is prevented from doing many security-critical operations without Touch / Face ID and in some cases a security delay while the phone is outside a familiar location like your home, but they can absolutely open Contacts, check where you live, and then take the phone near your home to gain full control with the passcode they obtained.

This is still much preferred to how it used to be, but it's important for people to understand the limitations of SDP.

Quotes from Apple's info page on SDP:

"When your iPhone is in a familiar location, these additional steps are not required, and you can use your device passcode like usual."

"Your device may end the security delay early after it detects that you’ve arrived at a familiar location."
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The delay only begins when there is a valid FaceID/TouchID in conjunction with an event protected by SDP. So the race analogy doesn't fit in your scenario where there is no valid FaceID/TouchID, just using the passcode doesn't start any delay.

Apple also says "your device may end the security delay early," not "will" end it early.

This would have to be tested under the following conditions: 1) thief unlocks phone using stolen passcode, 2) thief tries to change password and fails because SDP is turned on, 3) thief goes to owner's home/work and tries to change password again. What happens then?
 
This update bricked my phone. First time this happened to me. I got everything back but the call logs. Apple said there's no way I can get that back. Does anybody know of a way I can get all of my call logs back?
Thanks, Jerry
 
onenorth said:
The delay only begins when there is a valid FaceID/TouchID in conjunction with an event protected by SDP. So the race analogy doesn't fit in your scenario where there is no valid FaceID/TouchID, just using the passcode doesn't start any delay.
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That's also my understanding, though I'm still looking into this to understand it better. My race analogy however had to do with these competing actions instead:

1) Owner realizing their device is gone and finding another device to report it as stolen on

2) Thief getting near the owner's home or workplace to use the passcode to lock the owner out of their Apple ID

onenorth said:
Apple also says "your device may end the security delay early," not "will" end it early.
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True, can't know for sure which way Apple meant it without more information.

onenorth said:
This would have to be tested under the following conditions: 1) thief unlocks phone using stolen passcode, 2) thief tries to change password and fails because SDP is turned on, 3) thief goes to owner's home/work and tries to change password again. What happens then?
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That's also something I'd be interested to find out. The situation I proposed didn't include step 2.
 
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Lyons00 said:
This update bricked my phone. First time this happened to me. I got everything back but the call logs. Apple said there's no way I can get that back. Does anybody know of a way I can get all of my call logs back?
Thanks, Jerry
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Backed up my iPhone 14 Pro to my computer and now I'm trying to install it over the air, it failed to install, I deleted the download from my iPhone and I am trying again. o_O
 
Unfortunately stolen device protection doesn’t available for iPadOS 17.3 and user can still use apple pay with passcode. So if you lost your phone and the thieve knows the passcode then he/she can still use your credit card
 
fortheus said:
Unfortunately stolen device protection doesn’t available for iPadOS 17.3 and user can still use apple pay with passcode. So if you lost your phone and the thieve knows the passcode then he/she can still use your credit card
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1. Why does the thief have both your phone and your iPad?
2. Why does your phone and iPad both have the same password?
 
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