Nope. If you're in a trusted location (i.e. your house) you can just use your passcode to bypass biometrics.What happens if the faceid camera is damaged? I get locked out of my phone forever? Cant undo findmy.
This one is the big one for me. It will be interesting to see if they used software to disable the Blood Oxygen meter in the S9 and U2. If they did for those already purchased before the ban went into effect, then a lot of watches will have been gimped.
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That wasn't the case SDP was created to thwart, though. Not primarily anyway.I think the idea is that if someone steals your phone and forces/tricks you to unlock it with your face/finger, they still will have to wait an hour and have you do it again, which is unlikely to happen.
Nope, I am presented only with 17.3.🤷♂️ Do you see 16.7.5 under Software Update?
I'm on 16.7.2 and ever since Apple released iOS 17.1, I've not been able to get any further iOS 16 updates -- no 16.7.3, no 16.7.4, no 16.7.5. I only see iOS 17 updates because Apple wants me (us?) to upgrade to iOS 17 so they will have good iOS 17 usage stats.
Thats what I'm doing. Doesn't seem to be any problems from what I've seen.I would hope. Or wait a day and see what shakes out.
Installed on my 15pm. Seems solid all around.Thats what I'm doing. Doesn't seem to be any problems from what I've seen.
The delay only begins when there is a valid FaceID/TouchID in conjunction with an event protected by SDP. So the race analogy doesn't fit in your scenario where there is no valid FaceID/TouchID, just using the passcode doesn't start any delay.That wasn't the case SDP was created to thwart, though. Not primarily anyway.
The related, widely publicised security risk last year was that thieves shoulder-surf or otherwise obtain your phone's passcode, then pickpocket your phone and before you know it you're down a phone and Apple ID.
With Stolen Device Protection in this same situation the thief is prevented from doing many security-critical operations without Touch / Face ID and in some cases a security delay while the phone is outside a familiar location like your home, but they can absolutely open Contacts, check where you live, and then take the phone near your home to gain full control with the passcode they obtained.
This is still much preferred to how it used to be, but it's important for people to understand the limitations of SDP.
Quotes from Apple's info page on SDP:
"When your iPhone is in a familiar location, these additional steps are not required, and you can use your device passcode like usual."
"Your device may end the security delay early after it detects that you’ve arrived at a familiar location."
That's also my understanding, though I'm still looking into this to understand it better. My race analogy however had to do with these competing actions instead:The delay only begins when there is a valid FaceID/TouchID in conjunction with an event protected by SDP. So the race analogy doesn't fit in your scenario where there is no valid FaceID/TouchID, just using the passcode doesn't start any delay.
True, can't know for sure which way Apple meant it without more information.Apple also says "your device may end the security delay early," not "will" end it early.
That's also something I'd be interested to find out. The situation I proposed didn't include step 2.This would have to be tested under the following conditions: 1) thief unlocks phone using stolen passcode, 2) thief tries to change password and fails because SDP is turned on, 3) thief goes to owner's home/work and tries to change password again. What happens then?
Updated yesterday and don’t have the option for stolen device protection?
This update bricked my phone. First time this happened to me. I got everything back but the call logs. Apple said there's no way I can get that back. Does anybody know of a way I can get all of my call logs back?
Thanks, Jerry
Hi, thanks for the info...none of these worked.![]()
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1. Why does the thief have both your phone and your iPad?Unfortunately stolen device protection doesn’t available for iPadOS 17.3 and user can still use apple pay with passcode. So if you lost your phone and the thieve knows the passcode then he/she can still use your credit card