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Mr. Ive did study Industrial Design which is part of creativity. Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Ive

Product design IS Industrial Design. Remember that. Plus, just because he was placed in the UI design oversight doesn't mean he may have been the right guy for it. He's an experienced professional designer who has certain specialized skills, but UI isn't one of them as he's had to probably learn this 'on the go' or be brought up to speed.

UX/UI design is different than Industrial Design in terms of discipline and thought. It doesn't mean he can't draw when he most certainly CAN.

I was thinking more like something Fisher Price would create. lol
 
First time I showed iOS7 (since early betas) to my wife, a perfect example of an average user that uses stock versions of everything:

"Why does it look like Android now?"

No comments.

Had the same reaction from 3 individuals today. All of them are pretty average users.

I personally enjoy iOS 7. But interesting to see reactions from average users.
 
Seriously - who in their right mind would get a software update from "a friend" or "this other download site" rather than downloading a signed copy from the source?

That's about as smart as registering on http://www.malwaredownloads.com for their hourly automatic updates.

You made a bad choice, and now it's bitten you.
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And to be helpful - wipe the device absolutely clean and do a virgin installation. Don't try to save anything - any saved apps/files might carry the infections to the new system.

Ahh see this is where our communication is lacking....The question was for a friend who updated their iphone to 7 OTA like most people do. Then when it installed somehow reverted her to her old itunes account. But thanks for being helpful, but does that help still apply?
 
If you don't get it by now.....
As the expression aptly goes.
Here's a last valiant try to overcome YEARS of ignorant/bigoted thinking though:
What makes an article of clothing masculine or feminine is the cut, NOT the color.. This is 2013, NOT 1953. Men wear pink or purple shirts. *gasp* Even businessmen.. even industrialists, all kinds of REAL men.
When I say that I like Apple's new OS & the colors are pleasing to me.. and you say that they are feminine & "real men" won't like them. That is MOST CERTAINLY rude & insensitive!!! You are quite blatantly saying I'm not a "real man" & my tastes are feminine. The fact that you don't even see it is seriously sad (bordering pathetic). When I was taking a corporate cultural sensitivity training class while working at the University, we had one old codger like you who just couldn't quite wrap his old-fashioned mind around the fact that his "harmless" comments, that he had grown up saying.... bearing nobody any ill will, were indeed racist or at least culturally insensitive. Lol, I remember them taking SO long to break him of referring to people by their race in conversations.. as in: "you know, that Mexican guy that works up front.." to people of his generation, that just seemed normal. It made sense, after all.. there was only a single "Mexican" that worked up front. I remember when nothing else would stick, a trainer described how a description sans race references could show that you pay attention & value another human being, as in: "you know that guy that works downstairs.. the one that loves his family, and has all the soccer pictures of his kid on his desk?". It SUDDENLY clicked for him. I am unsure what it would take to "click" for you, for you to realize that nowadays, the things you say and how you say them ARE rude & insensitive (whether you meant for them to be or not). I hope this helps you, as it is not I that has painted you as close minded or bigoted... it is your own words that have sadly done that, sir.
Respectfully hoping that you can join us in this kinder, gentler era... It is NEVER too late to change!!

It's you who are the bigoted one. I never said anything about your sexuality. All I said was that the color scheme is feminine... I didn't call you feminine. You inferred that. I don't think men who wear pastel colors are feminine just because of their color choice. You are the one who seems to think that. I said that the color scheme is a feminine one. That doesn't mean I think someone who likes it is feminine. You need to get that through your thick skull. I'm not judging anyone's choices. You are. Also, I use to work as a costumer in the film business for years. I know a little bit about clothing design and it isn't just cut. Color, pattern, and weave all play a part. I'm really getting sick of defending my integrity over a simple point I was trying to make about a color pallet choice. You all asumed I was homophobic because i said most men wont like the color scheme. Don't you realize that you are making an asumption that gay men would be offended because you think they perfer those colors, or aren't real men. I never even implied that, nor do I think that. But you inferred that. What does that say about you? You should read a little more about the psychology of color and color theory before you assume I'm an insensitive bigot.
 
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Since the update at noon, my iPhone 4S has been rendered useless because it is extremely slow. Tried to restore to factory setting, but all I am getting is "Contacting the iPhone software update server" over the past 2+ hours.

thanks for the heads up.. guess i will pass on updating my 4s..
 
So I just realized that even though I had the GM I would need to update as Apple removed keychain in GM… sigh
 
This update makes me sad. This is a major step away from the Apple that innovated and led the way. The design is so....um.....Microsoftish. I really can't believe the amount wrong decisions that had to happen for this UI to be released.

I'm sad. I had hoped that Apple would forge ahead without Steve but this seems that they did a U-turn and followed others. I hope they don't continue done the boardroom/committee design path.

I hope handwriting recognition works, because it's on the wall.

I agree. I'm sad too. The beautiful and well thought out graphic design is one of the things that made Apple stand way above all the rest. This is the first time ever Apple has disappointed me. There are many things that are very nice with iOS 7, but the graphic design is not one of them. I think it's a mess. Everything floats around, nothing separates the different elements which makes it uncomfortable to watch. And just the obvious thing that text should be readable on any background has been neglected. And how anyone can say that the icons are a step forward is beyond me. It's OK to simplify, but to me they look just amateurish.
 
It's you who are the bigoted one. I never said anything about your sexuality. All I said was that the color scheme is feminine... I didn't call you feminine. You inferred that. I don't think men who wear pastel colors are feminine just because of their color choice. You are the one who seems to think that. I said that the color scheme is a feminine one. That doesn't mean I think someone who likes it is feminine. You need to get that through your thick scull. I'm not judging anyone's choices. You are. Also, I use to work as a costumer in the film business for years. I know a little bit about clothing design and it isn't just cut. Color, pattern, and weave all play a part. I'm really getting sick of defending my integrity over a simple point I was trying to make about a color pallet choice. You all asumed I was homophobic because i said most men wont like the color scheme. Don't you realize that you are making an asumption that gay men would be offended because you think they perfer those colors, or aren't real men. I never even implyed that, nor do I think that. But you infered that. What does that say about you? You should read a little more about the psychology of color and color theory before you assume I'm an insensitive bigot.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Each post of yours gives me less respect for you & makes me more and more convinced that I'm correct about you. This recent "uh uh, no I'm not... you are!" stance especially. Adding you to my ignore list.. Neither of us is willing to listen to the other, I suspect.
 
I'm gonna go ahead and say that Topper24hours has taken this discussion in an emotionally driven irrational direction, and has yet to provide a factual or rational argument for whatever it is he believes.

Fact is, certain color palettes are considered masculine or feminine. Whether or not that is nature/ nurture is irrelevant to that fact. You can discuss the ins and outs of how those preferences/ tendencies came about, but the fact of the matter is that those preconceived notions of color exist, and treq gave more than enough objective sources and rational information to back his argument
 
We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Each post of yours gives me less respect for you & makes me more and more convinced that I'm correct about you. This recent "uh uh, no I'm not... you are!" stance especially. Adding you to my ignore list.. Neither of us is willing to listen to the other, I suspect.

It's too bad that you are so judgmental about others that you put them into your little boxes. How sad.

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I'm gonna go ahead and say that Topper24hours has taken this discussion in an emotionally driven irrational direction, and has yet to provide a factual or rational argument for whatever it is he believes.

Fact is, certain color palettes are considered masculine or feminine. Whether or not that is nature/ nurture is irrelevant to that fact. You can discuss the ins and outs of how those preferences/ tendencies came about, but the fact of the matter is that those preconceived notions of color exist, and treq gave more than enough objective sources and rational information to back his argument

THANK YOU!!! I knew some out there would get my point. I've been getting really pissed off at being called a bigot or a homophobe by these crazy people, and your comment is a breath of fresh air.
 
Funny sitting here reading all the post about how so many of you hate the IOS 7 update. It's not like you all haven't seen video and pictures of what it would look like. I think people are complaining just for the sake of it.
 
Funny sitting here reading all the post about how so many of you hate the IOS 7 update. It's not like you all haven't seen video and pictures of what it would look like. I think people are complaining just for the sake of it.

Well, I'm sure some are. Many though have valid points about the UI's design. Even though most saw some of it coming, they haven't gotten to use it until now. There are many problems, but also many good things about this new os. Anyway, here's to hoping they will fix most of the problems and keep the things that work.
 
thanks for the heads up.. guess i will pass on updating my 4s..

My 4S is fine. The battery drained a little quicker than normal for a couple hours after the install, but after charging to 100%, it's been fine ever since. I chalked it up as background updates/syncing.

Lag wise, I'd say iOS 7 works 'well' on the 4S. Not noticeably slow, but I haven't compared it to my wife's 5 yet.
 
I agree. I'm sad too. The beautiful and well thought out graphic design is one of the things that made Apple stand way above all the rest. This is the first time ever Apple has disappointed me. There are many things that are very nice with iOS 7, but the graphic design is not one of them. I think it's a mess. Everything floats around, nothing separates the different elements which makes it uncomfortable to watch. And just the obvious thing that text should be readable on any background has been neglected. And how anyone can say that the icons are a step forward is beyond me. It's OK to simplify, but to me they look just amateurish.

I agree. The ease-of-use that was the hallmark of Apple products has suffered due to graphic design of the UI.

That it is visually harder to see/use makes it seems like the end-user experience was not a priority, eye candy aside.
 
That wallpaper depth trick is a rip off of a two year old jailbreak app.

Overall, was not impressed. Just as many cons as pros IMO.

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Funny sitting here reading all the post about how so many of you hate the IOS 7 update. It's not like you all haven't seen video and pictures of what it would look like. I think people are complaining just for the sake of it.

It's not until you actually look at the mail app, music app, that it sinks in.
Much different than seeing Apple keynote on a big TV.

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Did you know that Pacman was made to appeal to females?
It was supposed to be a colourful and non-violent game.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Each post of yours gives me less respect for you & makes me more and more convinced that I'm correct about you. This recent "uh uh, no I'm not... you are!" stance especially. Adding you to my ignore list.. Neither of us is willing to listen to the other, I suspect.
 
I'm in Europe and it went live at 7pm local (1pm Eastern US)......

Why would these morons release iOS7 at the SAME dam time worldwide and not progressively????:mad::mad::mad:

Slooooooooooooooow download and fearing activation dam it!

If customers know this always happens why would the morons download iOS7 at the SAME damned time worldwide and not progressively????:mad::mad::mad:
Why not wait a few days, will it kill you?
 
I just got finished installing it on my iPad and 10 minutes into it I'm not a fan. I feel like the simple design could have been made by a 7 year old.
 
Funny sitting here reading all the post about how so many of you hate the IOS 7 update. It's not like you all haven't seen video and pictures of what it would look like. I think people are complaining just for the sake of it.

So all the iOS developers here that have no choice but to install it in order to test their apps, or even the users that just want to keep up with the new security features and perhaps some people that just need something that was possible only with jailbreak tweaks (control center, orientation, search in mail etc) are just trolls, according to you?

I'm not a fanboy, I do like some Apple products but nobody is perfect.
iOS 7 is one step forward and 2 steps back.
 
Like the new features, hate the new design

Oh no....

This new design is so not what I espected. My phone somehow feels slower than before.

All these stupid animations, ex. when waking phone, just to see the time, what is up with that?. Just show the screen allready.

And the flat icons, that has no beauty to it. Yeaahh, lets make a retina screen with lots of pixels, and then make icons, that could have been made on a C64.

Sad day.... Oh, and I know well get use to it eventually, but at what cost ?

snowatom
 
We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Each post of yours gives me less respect for you & makes me more and more convinced that I'm correct about you. This recent "uh uh, no I'm not... you are!" stance especially. Adding you to my ignore list.. Neither of us is willing to listen to the other, I suspect.

You need to stop being so bloody sensitive and assuming!!!!!
 
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