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Backup to your computer and restore your 8.0.1 on your 8.0... Works like a charm on 2 iPhone 6 Plus.

Light bulb!!! I just realized reading your response he was stating iCloud backup. My appologies! The aforementioned process is regarding iTunes backup. oops.
 
I'm lucky that I still have my old 5S and can just restore when I get home this evening, but one thing I have to say is that Apple should be working quickly to get something pushed OTA because I imagine a lot of people don't have access to computers to update. I know personally, my work has an old version of iTunes that doesn't recognise my phone, meaning I really do have to wait instead of doing it now. :p
 
Thank god it's the Jewish new years eve, most people here were busy with the holiday dinner instead of updating their phones. :)
 
It's a freaking phone. The purpose of mobile phones is for them to be mobile. That has always meant that you can carry them around in your pocket, because that was what happened with every mobile phone in history.

So is an iPad but wouldnt recommend shoving it into a pocket either. And as I recall most folks used a belt clip or pouch back in the day with their mobile phones. I believe they still sell lots of cases like that to carry your device in.

Did Apple ever publish a warning that "Oh, sorry folks, but this phone is different than every other phone known to mankind. You can't carry it around in your pocket because it will bend, unlike all the other phones you've ever had."

I would think common since would come in here since its BIGGER than every other phone known to mankind. (maybe they should tho)

Having said that, it takes a lot of force to bend this phone. Just look at the videos. The guys doing the bending are putting a LOT of force on the phone. With that kind of force, you're going to get bruises on your leg. Or whatever your pocket happens to cover.

Definitely! That one video the guy was struggling to bend it. BTW it still worked afterwards and the glass didnt break!
 
Well again not apologizing for Apple as I stated HUGE FAIL. You can resort to calling me a troll if you wish. I would say more like a realist. But I stand by the fact that if you are that reliant on your phone during the work day for an important call in 30 min as previously stated, an hour later as you now state or later that day, perhaps its better planning to update that evening after your important business is completed. Updating an operating system is a little more involved than updating an app. But certainly you can choose to do it whenever you want, just maybe not a good idea to update your phone before an "important" phone call.

I was expecting a phone call half an hour from the time of my post, as I originally stated. Please go back and re-read. Semantics aside, 1) incremental updates are typically quite quick (this one took my phone only 3-4 minutes), and 2) I expect my phone to work after updates. These are reasonable expectations, and stating that I did not have a good plan by updating an hour before needing my phone is an ignorant fanboy comment. But go ahead and troll on bro. Dissenting opinion is never popular in Apple Land.
 
i'm almost happy my iPhone 6 plus is backordered for a few weeks. I now know to buy a hard case to protect against bending and delay iOS8 updates until the bugs are sufficiently resolved. Who knows what added insight tomorrow will bring...

As has been said, "the pioneers take the arrows, the settlers take the land".
 
I was joking. I'm a software engineer, but human beyond that. Errors occur, it's a part of life.

I know. It was more of a general response to people saying Apple is over or something similar. Apple makes mistakes. No one is absolutely unequivocally perfect. Apple, overall, does better than most. But they do have slipups. This is one of them.
 
By now they surely know what went wrong. They can tell us that.
They can tell us how they will prevent it in the future.
They can tell us a timetable for a solution, or, if the official solution is this "restore to iOS 8" nonsense they can say so publicly.

You yourself say "all we need to know is when a fix will be available." Well, guess what? They haven't said anything. It's been hours, and they must have some idea.

Yes, I said "all we need to know is when a fix will be available." And no, they haven't said anything. But what if they haven't fixed it? Then there is nothing to tell us. They don't know.

You're making a huge assumption saying "they surely know what went wrong." We don't know that for sure. Even if they did, this is not just a technical issue. There is the software development side to fix it, the testing side to test it, and just as significant is the PR side on how to communicate the issue and fix. (e.g. will they decide to provide us an explanation? It would be nice to know but they're not obligated to do so.)

Not to mention all the little political and technical things that need to be addressed in an enterprise that we have no idea about, because we don't work there.

It's very easy as an outsider to see this as fairly simple. Speaking as someone who has worked in software development in enterprise environments, it rarely is. A lot of times even other employees in other departments within the company don't understand how complex things are in software development.
 
I've also worked in software development in enterprise environments, and this sort of silence is unacceptable. Even if they don't know what's wrong they should have a time table. Or instructions. Or something.

Yes, I said "all we need to know is when a fix will be available." And no, they haven't said anything. But what if they haven't fixed it? Then there is nothing to tell us. They don't know.

You're making a huge assumption saying "they surely know what went wrong." We don't know that for sure. Even if they did, this is not just a technical issue. There is the software development side to fix it, the testing side to test it, and just as significant is the PR side on how to communicate the issue and fix. (e.g. will they decide to provide us an explanation? It would be nice to know but they're not obligated to do so.)

Not to mention all the little political and technical things that need to be addressed in an enterprise that we have no idea about, because we don't work there.

It's very easy as an outsider to see this as fairly simple. Speaking as someone who has worked in software development in enterprise environments, it rarely is. A lot of times even other employees in other departments within the company don't understand how complex things are in software development.
 
So is an iPad but wouldnt recommend shoving it into a pocket either. And as I recall most folks used a belt clip or pouch back in the day with their mobile phones. I believe they still sell lots of cases like that to carry your device in.



I would think common since would come in here since its BIGGER than every other phone known to mankind. (maybe they should tho)



Definitely! That one video the guy was struggling to bend it. BTW it still worked afterwards and the glass didnt break!

It's slightly taller than other phones but not massively bigger than phones like the Note or Oneplusone.

The problem is in the design they used one large piece of soft malleable metal for the back with no reinforcement inside. Every other big phone has some sort of framework inside for the back or uses several smaller pieces for better structural strength. That's a design fault, people put phones in their pockets and a company releasing a phone no matter the size should be aware of that.

The "Guy" in the video does this with all phones it's part of a series of testing he does, he has done it with many big phones only the 6+ had such drastic bending.

Man it's so bizarre how people treat multinational corporations like religions these days.

If a TV company put out a TV that broke if you sat in front of it no one would be making excuses, if a cable company put out an update that stopped you being able to watch TV no one would make excuses for them. The opposite would be true there would be a massive stink and everyone would condemn them but no with Apple the cultists come out.
 
Should I assume that if my upgrade to 8.0.1 went smoothly and I don't see any issues with TouchID and cell phone service that I shouldn't worry about this? I don't want to speculate about the cause of the issue, but perhaps if Apple mistakenly loaded different flavors of 8.0.1 into their servers, some phones got a bad upgrade image and some a good one. I saw someone posting that TouchID files were missing, but I am not sure if this was verified by unpacking the 8.0.1 image or just a guess. In my case TouchID is working, so I guess the files were there :)
 
I was expecting a phone call half an hour from the time of my post, as I originally stated. Please go back and re-read. Semantics aside, 1) incremental updates are typically quite quick (this one took my phone only 3-4 minutes), and 2) I expect my phone to work after updates. These are reasonable expectations, and stating that I did not have a good plan by updating an hour before needing my phone is an ignorant fanboy comment. But go ahead and troll on bro. Dissenting opinion is never popular in Apple Land.

OK, so clearly it was a GREAT plan. I stand corrected.

And for the record I couldn't care less when you update or if you update or if you like Apple or hate Apple love Android or not. I am not now and was not ever defending Apple for this fail of an update. It was a fail when i first commented and it is still a fail. So call me fanboy/troll or whatever you want. But by definition fanboys defend Apple no matter what. So me stating YOU had a not so great plan does not make me a fanboy exactly.

Anyway carry on, and yes i rescend my comment that you had poor planning. It was a great plan, just didnt work out so great this time.
 
You sound like a troll. No Apple user uses the word system. If you are unhappy go buy a Samsung phone.

I am an apple user and I refer to it as a system, operating system. Not sure what dialect you trendy, arrogant baggy pants hipsters are accustomed to, but you see, I started on a Lisa before you knew how to pee.
 
I've also worked in software development in enterprise environments, and this sort of silence is unacceptable. Even if they don't know what's wrong they should have a time table. Or instructions. Or something.

How can they provide a time table if they don't know what's wrong?

"We're still looking into the issue, and as of yet have no idea what's wrong. That being said, we expect to fix a completely unknown problem within the next couple hours. Or next couple of days. Maybe. We're not sure."

I'm being sarcastic obviously but that's what I'm getting at. People are asking for updates, assuming they can provide them. If they don't know there is nothing they can tell us. If they do know, then yes, information would be great. But we don't know if they know what the issue is. And an update every 10 minutes of "we're still working on it" accomplishes nothing other than wasting time.

Truthfully, just about the only people that this affected are the people on sites like MacRumors that tried to update immediately, or anyone else who happened to catch the update in the hour or two it was up. I would guess the vast majority of the iPhone population doesn't even know there's an issue. So it's probably not worth it for Apple to put so much energy into communicating technical issues to such a small population.

Additionally, are we at all surprised at how silent they are? Apple has traditionally been very quiet with things like this, for example with some of their Mac hardware that have issues. They'll go quiet for months/years and all of the sudden admit there is a hardware issue with a video card.
 
How can they provide a time table if they don't know what's wrong?

"We're still looking into the issue, and as of yet have no idea what's wrong. That being said, we expect to fix a completely unknown problem within the next couple hours. Or next couple of days. Maybe. We're not sure."

I'm being sarcastic obviously but that's what I'm getting at. People are asking for updates, assuming they can provide them. If they don't know there is nothing they can tell us. If they do know, then yes, information would be great. But we don't know if they know what the issue is. And an update every 10 minutes of "we're still working on it" accomplishes nothing other than wasting time.

Truthfully, just about the only people that this affected are the people on sites like MacRumors that tried to update immediately, or anyone else who happened to catch the update in the hour or two it was up. I would guess the vast majority of the iPhone population doesn't even know there's an issue. So it's probably not worth it for Apple to put so much energy into communicating technical issues to such a small population.

Additionally, are we at all surprised at how silent they are? Apple has traditionally been very quiet with things like this, for example with some of their Mac hardware that have issues. They'll go quiet for months/years and all of the sudden admit there is a hardware issue with a video card.

Simple. "We think we'll have a fix by tonight, that you can download tonight over the air. In the meantime, go to this link and follow the directions from a windows computer or mac running iTunes if you can't wait. If that's not an option for you, bring the phone to an Apple Store and bypass the genius lines."
 
So is an iPad but wouldnt recommend shoving it into a pocket either. And as I recall most folks used a belt clip or pouch back in the day with their mobile phones. I believe they still sell lots of cases like that to carry your device in.
Come on... the iPad was never designed or marketed to be put into your pocket. The iPhone always was. That's what the "P" in "iPhone" stands for!

I would think common since would come in here since its BIGGER than every other phone known to mankind. (maybe they should tho)
Common sense? People are spending 800 bucks for a phone. Where's the common sense in THAT?

But... even the venerable iPhone5 could be bent on occasion. Put a case on the phone. Almost any case will help alleviate bending to some degree, and the sturdier ones will almost eliminate it.
 
Common sense? People are spending 800 bucks for a phone. Where's the common sense in THAT?

People used to spend thousands of dollars (pre-inflation) on desktop computers that provided a lot less utility. $800 for a "phone" when the phone does so much is a bargain.
 
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