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Apple Releases iTunes 12.7 With Major Changes, Including No Built-In App Store

Even Longer said:
Hey guys, did you manage to get the .app from my dropbox yet? If not, I could make a .zip from it, if there is some issue with the dropbox.
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Well, as I mentioned, It synced from Dropbox fine and I assumed all was ok, however I've just tried to launch it for the first time and get the following error message:-

Couldn't communicate with a helper application.
Try your operation again. If that fails, quit and relaunch the application and try again.
 
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Counting Steps said:
Well, as I mentioned, It synced from Dropbox fine and I assumed all was ok, however I've just tried to launch it for the first time and get the following error message:-

Couldn't communicate with a helper application.
Try your operation again. If that fails, quit and relaunch the application and try again.
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Well, I extracted the the app from the time machine backup, hoping it would be sufficient for launch.
I don't know, which dependencies or helper applications it requires, but my idea was: it would re-create those on first launch. Too bad, my backup didn't catch the dmg...
 
I have only tried Configurator 2 once, to see if I could figure out on my own how to add an app to my iPhone, using a MacBook that isn't even sync'd with my iPhone (I sync on the iMac with a 6TB iTunes library), and it worked. I don't understand ANY of the other functions of Configurator 2 yet.

QUESTION - Is there a way to have Configurator 2 read my iPhone and save a profile or something that remembers what Apps I have on the iPhone, so if I need to set it up as "new" after I update to iOS 11 then I can then get back all the apps that I had on it before, without having to do it one app at a time from memory?
 
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Counting Steps said:
@Even Longer - yes, thanks for trying.

Do you, or anyone else know if any of the 3rd party apps like Syncios or iMazing will be of any benefit going forward?
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I don't know, how these apps should be able to download the .ipa's from the store.

As for me: I think, I will stay with the newest Configurator + tethered-caching to get the apps I need to sync across, since AFAIK tethered-caching does not require the ethernet connection in high Sierra anymore.
 
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saytheenay said:
Yes--kind of like iTunes, actually: create a backup (there should be a menu option).
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Thanks, I've already backed it up in configurator 2, but if I want to restore just the apps and the app's data at some point in the future, will the restore function do only that, or will also restore other data and settings as well (and maybe even media)?
 
If you mean sync your books to iOS iBooks, I think (but I am not positive) you can still load them into macOS iBooks and sync through iTunes like you can in iTunes 12.6.x.
 
Can anyone confirm two things before I update to 12.7 (or the presumably forthcoming 12.7.1):

1. Do non-Apple e-books and PDFs stored in iBooks continue to sync to iOS devices just like before, *without* using iCloud for the storage/sync?

2. What happens to non-Apple-bought files marked as audiobooks (e.g., speeches and other non-music audio files I have saved in iTunes, which currently sync to iOS devices via iTunes)? Does iTunes still sync them to iOS devices?

Thanks very much.
 
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I was looking for solutions to the effective loss of cellular data post "upgrade" to iOS11 when I stumbled across this thread.

My goodness, without reading all the pages, it seems this is a silly idea if only for loading my own ringtones AND not having to download / update every device repeatedly by WiFi. I write WiFi as I seem there are limits on downloading large files on my devices.......I have never understood the reason there would be limits.

And what about backups? We do not use iCloud?

And what about the transfer of documents?

And what about the transfer of images?

And why would the radio be in a different location? Now have to switch applications to listen music and radio?

I could continue . . . .
 
I am wondering if SynciOS can be an iTunes alternative in order to back up and restore apps? Has anyone used this?

http://www.syncios.com/mac-ios-manager/

Install and manage iOS Apps on Mac
Take full control over your personal apps . Backup, transfer and restore the apps and files you wish. Install and remove any app on iPad/iPhone/iPod freely. Simple and secure apps management for you!

  • Install application from Mac to any iOS device without iTunes.
  • Backup and restore apps.
  • Remove iPad/iPhone/iPod apps and app data to free up valuable space.
  • Transfer apps between iOS devices.
 
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Foxglove9 said:
Exactly. A lot of developers and app review sites rely on those links to get people to buy and download their apps. It was a major complaint with the Apple TV and it's lack of ability to link/download apps via desktop.
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Yep, it's more about purchasing apps, not downloading and syncing them with your computer. I've stopped buying new apps and download new ones not so often as 4 - 5 years ago, so it's not a big deal to update them on the iPhone :)
 
Does backup and restore on iTunes still do all the apps and data? (sorry for not wading through 42 pages, got bored after 8 pages).

A few times I've had to wipe and restore devices, bit of a pain if it means manually downloading all the apps, then what of the data?
 
The more I think about this change, the more it annoys me. We have a common PC for the whole family, and iphones, ipads, ipod touches. A simple set of tick options for each device on iTunes meant no messing on each individual device. Not so bad now as my kids are older, when they were younger I kept a strict control over them when it came to online and spending. Cant see how parents will easily manage that now.

Purchased apps were always done through the PC as it gets back up regularly. It also meant devices could share apps within the family.
 
Unfortunately this is like with their iOS releases. "Here’s the new cool features, there are hundreds more that we don’t have time to talk about" speech. They don’t mention all the functions they have moved that you have to re-find, have broken or at worst removed! Now when a new iOS comes out I don’t think what’s been added, I think what have I lost. Now it’s going to be the same for iTunes!
 
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In case anyone likes older version of iTunes, Here's a screenshot I took today:
upload_2017-10-5_14-39-10.png


iTunes 10.4.1 runs just fine along with High Sierra.
I gave the old version a different name, myTunes, so it's not replaced during the install.
Dirty install of HS onto external spinner did not replace my iTunes 12.7 copy either.
That works too.
I keep my music, a lib for each iTunes version, on the Mac's slow 5400rpm spinner.

If you're having trouble downdating your iTunes, don't give up.
High Sierra is not a deal breaker on this.
 
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Partron22 said:
In case anyone likes older version of iTunes, Here's a screenshot I took today:
View attachment 723758

iTunes 10.4.1 runs just fine along with High Sierra.
I gave the old version a different name, myTunes, so it's not replaced during the install.
Dirty install of HS onto external spinner did not replace my iTunes 12.7 copy either.
That works too.
I keep my music, a lib for each iTunes version, on the Mac's slow 5400rpm spinner.

If you're having trouble downdating your iTunes, don't give up.
High Sierra is not a deal breaker on this.
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Can you give more detailed info on the first part?

And are you saying if I upgrade a machine running Sierra and the last iTunes to High Sierra, iTunes is not upgraded.
 
RecentlyConverted said:
Can you give more detailed info on the first part?
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This all started some time ago, when I realized that iTunes 12 was not a place I wanted to go.
Here's a thread. There are many others, by other people too. Someone eventually put together a complete "how", but I don't remember who, or what the thread was called. Some searching around the 2014-2015 timeline should find it.
 
Raist3001 said:
I am wondering if SynciOS can be an iTunes alternative in order to back up and restore apps? Has anyone used this?

http://www.syncios.com/mac-ios-manager/

Install and manage iOS Apps on Mac
Take full control over your personal apps . Backup, transfer and restore the apps and files you wish. Install and remove any app on iPad/iPhone/iPod freely. Simple and secure apps management for you!

  • Install application from Mac to any iOS device without iTunes.
  • Backup and restore apps.
  • Remove iPad/iPhone/iPod apps and app data to free up valuable space.
  • Transfer apps between iOS devices.
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I too would like to know if anyone has syncios working with ios11 and High Sierra. The developer's website does not seem to cover this and it is a bit of a catch 22 - need to have both installed in order to test but no going back if it does not work!

Update
The Syncios website states "Syncios currently doesn't support backing up apps on iOS 9 and above devices..." but it is not clear if you can install apps with ios11 or how you download them directly from the app store to the Mac so they can be installed on several ios devices. It seems that you must download them directly to one ios device, use Syncios to copy it to the Mac (but apparently not for ios9+) and then (maybe) install it on other devices:
http://www.syncios.com/online_help/syncios-ios-management.html#q5
 
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