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Apple Releases iTunes 12.7 With Major Changes, Including No Built-In App Store

WARNING: Apple updated Apple Configurator 2 today. If you are on iTunes 12.6, do NOT update Apple Configurator 2! When you start it up after updating, it gives you this modal message:

'The required framework "AirTrafficHost" is out of date. Please update iTunes.'​

And it won't let you do anything after that--it forces you to close the dialog (which closes the Apple Configurator 2 window) or "retry", which fails until you install iTunes 12.7.

I will not downgrade to iTunes 12.7, and Apple Configurator 2 will not run until I do, whereas before updating Apple Configurator 2 tonight, it worked fine.

Anyone on iTunes 12.7 that is willing to upgrade Apple Configurator 2 to see if it still works as expected?
 
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Removing this feature from iTunes has caused an issue with anyone who uses Apple Configurator 2 to manage multiple iPads. It's more than likely down to the left hand of Apple (iTunes) not knowing what the right hand (Configurator) is doing.

Fortunately I found a workaround. If you download the App to an iPad connected to your Apple account then when you restart Configurator the app will appear in the list. I've just had this exact problem and this was how I managed to get the app onto the MacBook and push out to the other iPads.
 
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saytheenay said:
WARNING: Apple updated Apple Configurator 2 today. If you are on iTunes 12.6, do NOT update Apple Configurator 2! When you start it up after updating, it gives you this modal message:

'The required framework "AirTrafficHost" is out of date. Please update iTunes.'​

And it won't let you do anything after that--it forces you to close the dialog (which closes the Apple Configurator 2 window) or "retry", which fails until you install iTunes 12.7.

I will not downgrade to iTunes 12.7, and Apple Configurator 2 will not run until I do, whereas before updating Apple Configurator 2 tonight, it worked fine.

Anyone on iTunes 12.7 that is willing to upgrade Apple Configurator 2 to see if it still works as expected?
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Dang it......found out too late. Updated this morning and unable to launch C2 without iTunes 12.7
Now looking for a solution to install C2 2.4.
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firewood said:
Also, legally, Apple doesn't own the copyright to the developer's apps. So unless the developer renews the developer agreement, it may not be legal for Apple to continue to distribute copyrighted material beyond the enrollment period.
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What's next, apple removing apps from my Mac or iPad because they are no longer available in the app store? We legally purchased the app. If the app is no longer available for download, and no longer available in our purchased history, we should have the option of a refund. I wish people would stop making excuses for apples poor decisions. And start holding them accountable.
 
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It's clear (to me at least) that Apple's reason for removing the iOS app store from iTunes is because of the 32-bit/64-bit app issue. When an app is purchased from the app store within iTunes, Apple doesn't know what type of device this app will be attempted to be installed on. A person with a 64-bit iOS device could purchase a 32-bit app (without knowing the incompatibility) and then try to install it and have it fail. That will result in a lot of customer calls.

By removing the app store from iTunes and requiring the app to be directly installed on the device from the device, Apple can restrict the purchase of the app based on the device.

This seems to be the "underbelly" of Apple's simplistic approach to things. Things work great at the beginning, but as features and functions need to be added, things have to be patched on and tacked on causing more convoluted solutions than would've been had they had a broader view of things from the get-go. I'm seeing similar issues discussed with the Files app.
 
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My question is if I install IOS11 on my 10.5 iPad Pro what happens if I try to back it up to my iMac that is still on 12.6. Read the whole thread and not really seen an answer. Will it back up everything except the four 32 bit apps I have? Thanks for the help.
 
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sracer said:
It's clear (to me at least) that Apple's reason for removing the iOS app store from iTunes is because of the 32-bit/64-bit app issue. When an app is purchased from the app store within iTunes, Apple doesn't know what type of device this app will be attempted to be installed on. A person with a 64-bit iOS device could purchase a 32-bit app (without knowing the incompatibility) and then try to install it and have it fail. That will result in a lot of customer calls.
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Easily solved with a warning. Apple was sending warnings to Idevices long before iOS11 dropped. Or remove all 32 bit apps from the app store. In any event, this does not explain why apple has removed access to our previously purchased apps. If apple removes 32 bit apps, any we have purchased in the past should be in our purchase history. Just another instance of apple telling us how we should use their products.
 
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Hi All

Since the major change in iTunes 12.7. I am curious would you support a full version of iTunes that has the iOS app store and [light] version that just has the music player and backup support option?

Since this change, all apps getting ready for iOS 11 I have daily app updates 10-20 plus. As most some are my games that are over 100mb which require to update over wifi.

I want my ability to download through iTunes
 
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AZMecha said:
Hi All

Since the major change in iTunes 12.7. I am curious would you support a full version of iTunes that has the iOS app store and [light] version that just has the music player and backup support option?

Since this change, all apps getting ready for iOS 11 I have daily app updates 10-20 plus. As most some are my games that are over 100mb which require to update over wifi.

I want my ability to download through iTunes
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You mean two versions of itunes? I guess I would support that, but I don't think Apple would as it might create customer confusion and they would have to support two different versions of the same program.

I have to think there was a better way to handle all of this. Instead Apple has just made a mess of things.
 
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As many people have written that removing AppStore from iTunes reduced bloat in the latter I was curious about the sizes of the apps. I checked the system requirements for both 12.6 and 12.7--and they both require 400MB of hard disk space. There is no information about RAM requirements or usage. But there is no reduction in bloat in the size of the app.

I used the following to obtain the system requirements.

Download iTunes 12.6.2
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1934?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Download iTunes 12.7
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1814?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
 
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saytheenay said:
WARNING: Apple updated Apple Configurator 2 today. If you are on iTunes 12.6, do NOT update Apple Configurator 2! When you start it up after updating, it gives you this modal message:

'The required framework "AirTrafficHost" is out of date. Please update iTunes.'​

And it won't let you do anything after that--it forces you to close the dialog (which closes the Apple Configurator 2 window) or "retry", which fails until you install iTunes 12.7.

I will not downgrade to iTunes 12.7, and Apple Configurator 2 will not run until I do, whereas before updating Apple Configurator 2 tonight, it worked fine.

Anyone on iTunes 12.7 that is willing to upgrade Apple Configurator 2 to see if it still works as expected?
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Thanks for the warning - I popped into this thread tonight just to look for this info about the new Configurator 2 ver 2.5, and you saved many of us.
 
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marcoago said:
Jesus, over 10 pages and there are still people complaining that they can't backup via iTunes, they can't put ringtones when you still can (and it has been posted). The UI is gone but the features remain.
Now, everything that apple does is wrong. iTunes is bloated, everyone complains. They remove part of the features and people complain. You'll always piss off someone when you make a change. Don't you like it? Don't upgrade it.
We all know it's their way of doing things and sometimes it's upsetting.
Removing support of 32bit apps is a must. They haven't shipped 32bit iOS devices for a while. They did a similar thing with ppc-intel.
Or are we gonna cry for a whole week because you can't run Turbosynth (68k) on sierra? Purging all apps is part of purging the App Store, which everyone blamed because it was getting full of bloatware.
Do you still want to stick with old apps? Fine, don't upgrade and get over it. You don't have to buy things every year.
And I'm sorry for the guy who has 1.5k apps, but it's a borderline case.

And before anyone starts the *********, I'm a guy who has a 2.5Mb/s DSL, who had to download OS X upgrades (~4gb each), backups iPhone and iPad via iTunes, and is still using Yosemite for compatibility with older apps/drivers.
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It's a borderline case alright, of madness...
 
einsteinbqat said:
Doesn't work for me. Can't even delete. iTunes is somehow protected.
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Even after doing this?

2. In the Get Info window look at the bottom pane for Sharing & Permissions. To delete the app permissions need to be changed to "Read & Write." To change them (I changed all of them) click on the tiny lock icon in the lower right corner and type your admin password (probably the same as your log in).

3. Close the Get Info window and move iTunes to the trash. Don't delete yet. If it won't move to Trash, double check that all permissions are "Read & Write."
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Somebody else wrote to do the following instead of the above.

1. use appzapper to delete itunes 12.7​
 
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Perene said:
I don't feel inclined to buy anything if there's no way to make sure I am going to keep using the device or the content that is already in it as long as I want .
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Yup. I have taken to buying music elsewhere now, where I have the option to download just an mp3 if I want, without it being enveloped in proprietary software and hardware that are showing signs of going where I wish to not go. I now am converting everything so that what I've bought is decoupled from whatever software or store or authenticating server. Photos and music, can do fairly straightforward, albeit cumbersome, but movies bought through iTunes, am stuck; so not buying those from iTunes anymore. They've made such changes in direction with their desktops, laptops, OS, iOS, "iLife" apps, that they are going where I don't want to go. Is their products, they can do what they want, and they'll probably make tons of money, but I am saddened by having to get off the Apple product train because I choose not to change what I do and how I use things to conform to their direction. Instead of joy, excitement, anticipation towards Apple's products and services, I have fear, anxiety, sadness, caution, vigilance.
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K4LK said:
What do I do with the almost 80 GB in my Mobile Applications folder?
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I'm with you there. I've got 100+GB in that folder. I've started making daily backups of those app files as well as the ones that get put in the Trash when iTunes 12.6 updates apps there. I find myself just wanting to do what I can to have copies of these things on my desktop. Hopefully if I just stay on 12.6 I can continue to have at least local access to these, but I would think the day is coming when iTunes 12.6 will not be able to pull app updates down, and that will be that. Until then, though, I am keeping copies of everything so I have something on my desktop. Am not comfortable with only being able to use mobile device for app management.
 
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Raist3001 said:
I cannot thank you enough. THANKYOU.

Now, how do I install it?
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You're welcome.

I didn't try it yet, but I would completely remove the 2.5 via Terminal or with something like AppCleaner (great little app). Then just launch this 2.4 (you can put it in your Applications folder first, but it is not necessary).

Let me know, if you were able to revert.
 
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Eternal Bliss said:
Even after doing this?

2. In the Get Info window look at the bottom pane for Sharing & Permissions. To delete the app permissions need to be changed to "Read & Write." To change them (I changed all of them) click on the tiny lock icon in the lower right corner and type your admin password (probably the same as your log in).

3. Close the Get Info window and move iTunes to the trash. Don't delete yet. If it won't move to Trash, double check that all permissions are "Read & Write."
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Somebody else wrote to do the following instead of the above.

1. use appzapper to delete itunes 12.7​
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Was going to wait until the weekend in case this went south I'd have time to try to correct - gave it a whirl tonight - I used the version described above in making all permissions read and write as opposed to the app zapper method - had to make them ALL "read and write" but it worked like a charm!
 
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Even Longer said:
You're welcome.

I didn't try it yet, but I would completely remove the 2.5 via Terminal or with something like AppCleaner (great little app). Then just launch this 2.4 (you can put it in your Applications folder first, but it is not necessary).

Let me know, if you were able to revert.
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I don't see a .dmg?
 
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