I run Leopard on my PowerMac G4 and it is solid as a rock, so that is bogus advice. And you are missing out on something huge between Tiger and Leopard: Time Machine.
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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.1
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I run Leopard on my PowerMac G4 and it is solid as a rock, so that is bogus advice. And you are missing out on something huge between Tiger and Leopard: Time Machine.
Why must some people always preach this to others. Why should I be running Tiger when Leopard is doing things better for me and faster than what Tiger done for me since launch day. I'm still on the same install since the day it released.
Why must some people be such prats because there are PPC users out there...
Why do some other people feel the need to slag PPC users... have we not moved on from kindergarten schools yet. This isn't aimed at you but I've noticed this slagging lame trend has slowly been getting worse and it's aimed at some people in general that feel the need to make others feel what works for them may not work for you. It comes across as a dictatorship.
Why can't some people let others enjoy what they want to use rather than preach to them. What does it achieve, seriously... because some feel superior?...
Hello
So I was wondering what you all thought of this update. I installed SL and was happy with the performance, but it seemed to screw up my battery life and what not. Are there any downsides to upgrading since I ended up reverting back to leopard?
Other than broken programs everyone seems to be getting great performance..any advice? Since it did rush off the floor, I assume it may be better to stay happy on Leopard until 10.6.666 comes out or something..?
So I was wondering what you all thought of this update. I installed SL and was happy with the performance, but it seemed to screw up my battery life and what not. Are there any downsides to upgrading since I ended up reverting back to leopard?
Other than broken programs everyone seems to be getting great performance..any advice? Since it did rush off the floor, I assume it may be better to stay happy on Leopard until 10.6.666 comes out or something..?
I don't understand why people are posting problems! I've been using thousands of Apple products for over 75 years and *not once* have they ever not operated with 100% perfection, filled my loins with vigor, and blessed me with unlimited happiness in all aspects of my existence.
Anyone posting otherwise is simply a troll or part of an insignificant vocal minority of extremist compulsive liars and M$ shills!
Posting problems can be just fine--more than fine. Being unhappy with Apple can be just fine--more than fine. I am no apple fan boy. I think the keyboards that Apple made that shipped with the G4 era desktops were the worst keyboards ever made.
However, I wouldn't drop in on an OS X 10.6.1 thread and start complaining about the crappy keyboard that shipped with the blue and white G3 in the control room where I work. It would be out of place.
And HyperZboy's outbursts are indeed out of place in a snow leopard update thread. What do his issues have to do with Apple releasing 10.6.1?
Almost nothing direct.
Every freaking time there is an OS X update thread in this forum, HyperZboy shows up with his same issues. It's just not the place for them!
This thread should be a thread about THE UPDATE, and problems and experiences related to it. Some amount of Off Topic discussion is to be expected, but why do we always have to waste so much freaking time on this same discussion.
Look, just go back and reading the effing 10.5.8 update thread. You can find the exact same discussion.
Leopard works just fine on PPC computers. There are no significant issues with it that I have seen or experienced. Apple keeps both 10.5 and 10.4 updated as to security patches and the like. Yes, I'm sure PPC people would have preferred SL to be PPC and intel both, and I can sympathize with them. But, honestly, nothing has been taken away. Their computers still work just as good as they did before Snow Leopard was introduced.
But even if that's not correct, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT.
It's more the fact that my machine is PERFECTLY capable of running in 64-bit mode on my Unibody Macbook, but Apple is artificially gimping my system because it isn't technically in the "Pro" line. If I were running last year's 2.4Ghz Unibody Macbook, I would be pissed. It's not as if that model isn't a very capable machine, let alone my 2.0Ghz.
Why is this an issue? Unless you have over 92GB of ram or are working on kernel extensions there is no reason to run the 64-bit kernel.
Agreed. Time Machine saved my ass a few times already. I've got Time Machine backups going back at least six months.
Things 10.6.1 did/might have fixed for me:
-Expose and Spaces are now smoother, possibly. Slow-down is a random occurrence.
Things 10.6.1 did/might have broke for me:
-Dock Expose, Expose, and Hot Corners are all broken with dual displays. To elaborate:
All types of Expose occur on the Macbook screen only, instead of sorted by what screen the window is on.
Hot Corners just don't work.
Expose will sporadically send the windows off the display to I don't know where.
-Safari will not delete cookies.
-Expose and Spaces are now smoother, possibly. Slow-down is a random occurrence.
Things 10.6.1 did/might have broke for me:
-Dock Expose, Expose, and Hot Corners are all broken with dual displays. To elaborate:
All types of Expose occur on the Macbook screen only, instead of sorted by what screen the window is on.
Hot Corners just don't work.
Expose will sporadically send the windows off the display to I don't know where.
-Safari will not delete cookies.
See, this is kind of the opposite of how the computer industry has operated for decades. You CAN expect post-sale improvements, because of (bill gates voice)the magic of software.
People would pay a premium, expecting the computer to make it a little farther in to the future. Under the new Apple model, this is a mistake. Under the new Apple model, it is exactly like you say: Don't buy expecting improvements, because Apple won't be delivering. Or go Hackintosh.
Exactly. This means "arbitrarily blocking" in Aiden Shaw's eternally pro-Windows discourse...
Reading through this thread makes me kinda glad that I'm stuck with Leopard and PPC
Don't be.
SL has been a clear example of bugless experience for me; everything acts faster and more fluid, not to mention the under-the-hood changes that will make even more difference as more programmers join in to GCD's open sourced approach.
The only issue I reported related to an inability to install iLife '09, which went right away afterwards, and for which there is already a fix for those still facing it (deletion of com.apple.HIToolbox files within ~-Preferences-ByHost).
Since the 10.6.1 update, I know some of us have been complaining that it has "broken" more applications.
In particular, 10.6 broke all mail plugins that had to do with viewing it widescreen.
Well, after a fix, 10.6.1 broke letterbox again. So I figured I would share a fix found here:
http://www.vanillahd.com/mac-apple/...ox-for-apple-mail-no-worries-here-is-the-fix/
In particular, 10.6 broke all mail plugins that had to do with viewing it widescreen.
Well, after a fix, 10.6.1 broke letterbox again. So I figured I would share a fix found here:
http://www.vanillahd.com/mac-apple/...ox-for-apple-mail-no-worries-here-is-the-fix/
Exactly. This means "arbitrarily blocking" in Aiden Shaw's eternally pro-Windows discourse...
There's a reason it boots into 32-bit mode by default. People DO realize this, right?
Or did Aiden mean "blocking" as in 64-bit is not available for older Intel hardware?
Printer Drivers: another possible solution
You could just get them off your Leopard disc.
OR . . .
Visit the manufacturer's website and just download the Leopard drivers. Might work.
Now my Brother HL-5370DW has complete, fully-featured drivers, and I can print in full HQ1200. Including duplexing. The works, really. I don't really need any Snow Leopard drivers now.
That was almost too easy.
You could just get them off your Leopard disc.
OR . . .
Visit the manufacturer's website and just download the Leopard drivers. Might work.
Now my Brother HL-5370DW has complete, fully-featured drivers, and I can print in full HQ1200. Including duplexing. The works, really. I don't really need any Snow Leopard drivers now.
That was almost too easy.
Yes - I thought that some x64-capable C2D and perhaps Xeon CPUs won't load the 64-bit Apple kernel even with the 6-4 salute, and that Windows x64 and 64-bit Linux will run on those machines. (Obviously the oldest Intel Apples are Core Duo and Core Solo systems, which have no x64 capability.)
If I'm mistaken, please correct me.
Oh yes, I've seen that bit of news. Very nice.
But for my model of laser printer (Brother HL-5370DW) I was informed by Brother that SL drivers will be out in October. Fair enough. I advised them that they could go ahead and tell their customers to try to get the drivers off their Leopard disc, provided they have it.
I just called them back today to let them know that the Leopard drivers on their website work like a charm, at least for this model. I daresay they could just push those out to Apple asap and all will be well.
Ah, I see. I thought you meant the whole holding down 6 4 business. My mistake.
I held off my reply until Aiden came back but there are still models that you just can't boot into the 64-bit kernel under OS X due to the lack of kernel extensions and drivers. No amount of boot changes or 6+4 is going to do anything until Apple provides.
The blocking do appear to be arbitrary. My Macbook has the proper chipset and spits back EFI64. No 64-bit kernel for me.
This isn't the situation on the same hardware under Windows or Linux. 64-bit from top to bottom there.
Exactly. This means "arbitrarily blocking" in Aiden Shaw's eternally pro-Windows discourse...
Perfect example of the fanboi - dismiss the facts if they are not "pro-Apple", and attack the "troll" who dares to put facts on MacRumours....
Proof:
I have a new one...
My wife just updated her 13" MBP and mail doesn't even start...
Looks like the installer forgot to update Mail.app altogether.
I have attached the error dialog. Once the dialog comes up, the only way to exit is via a force quit.
I will be downloading the installer from Apple and give it another shot.
Hickman
EDIT: The reinstall from the direct download worked (as I assumed it would). But it was interesting nonetheless.
My wife just updated her 13" MBP and mail doesn't even start...
Looks like the installer forgot to update Mail.app altogether.
I have attached the error dialog. Once the dialog comes up, the only way to exit is via a force quit.
I will be downloading the installer from Apple and give it another shot.
Hickman
EDIT: The reinstall from the direct download worked (as I assumed it would). But it was interesting nonetheless.
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I have an iMac with 10.5 this update pack killed my mac. It won't boot to the desktop anymore. I ran disk utility and repaired permissions, then restarted, then went and installed the updates. Now the system hangs on boot at the gray screen with the little gray pin wheel. Thanks alot apple.
I have an iMac with 10.5 this update pack killed my mac. It won't boot to the desktop anymore. I ran disk utility and repaired permissions, then restarted, then went and installed the updates. Now the system hangs on boot at the gray screen with the little gray pin wheel. Thanks alot apple.