Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.5

[Moses]

Changed graphics behavior on MBP

I have a current-model 17inch MBP. Typically I have it set to use the nVidia graphics chip full-time, through the energy saver preferences.

I've noted since updating that it appears to actually be using the Intel HD graphics, until I do something that requires some graphics horsepower, when I notice the very obvious switch from the rather slow HD graphics to the much smoother nVidia chip - this is very obvious when pulling up dashboard, using expose.

I'd prefer to have the nVidia chip running full time, I hope this is just a bug.

 

[Caviar]

I booted in Windows XP SP3 and ran the FFXIV benchmark software and got a score of about 4200 in low (720p).
And its an average for people with HD5770.


So I guess its the Mac Pro Early2008 + OSX + HD5770 combination which is the reason I can't get the most out of it.

 

[star-affinity]

I have a mid 2009 MBP 13" 8gig ram 500GB HD. All was perfectly fine before the doing the update. Office 2011 was open with I got the message to hold the power button and restart so I thought that (Office 2011) was the culprit but after the reboot.

I opened Safari to do some research and after 5 minutes it crashed/ produced the same error asking to reboot. Rebooted ran disk permission repair that didn't help. After several crashes/ I attempted to use Safari to download the v10.6.5 Update (combo) to try and re-install but after a few minutes with Safari downloading it crashes again.

Currently I'm using Google Chrome to download the combo update and it has gotten to 346mb downloaded and counting.

***Update as I typed on my Win7 computer it crashed again.***

Any thoughts would be great. I don't have Time Machine running so not an option. If I can downgrade back to 10.6.4 successfully or attempt to reinstall again as a solution let me know.


I am attaching the last kernel panic report that was sent to Apple.

Thanks for any assistance

I guess the interesting part is: com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43224

I did a Google search and it seems you're not alone:

http://www.google.com/search?q=kernel panic com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43224&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Maybe you can find something...

 

[Melkorr]

10.6.5 changed the mouse double click speed.
It has made my mouse painful to use now, if it ain't broke...
Thanks apple.

 

[hoefler]

I'm going to say the same thing as another poster, except I'll point out why it's good.

Windows updates are mostly security. They don't bother with upgrades, this is why Windows sucks. But it does mean that most of their updates don't harm your functionality, since they have nothing to do with functionality. You can pretty much turn on automatic updates and not worry (or hope ) that anything will change.

Apple's updates are usually more about functionality, and can break other software, like 3rd party printer or graphics drivers. It is often a good idea to let an update be available for a few days before updating and see what problems may come up, and if there need to be fixes from other companies. Let the kids with no patience find any issues for you.

Also, Apple tends to be more quiet about what is coming. So, the Airprint that "disappeared" from the final version of this update will probably be sent out next week, but you won't know about it until it hits Software Update. Meanwhile, it gives paranoids, Apple haters, and trolls something to complain about right now.

i do understand we are dealing with technology here so ofcourse there are going to be problems at one time...the problem i'm having is that i was experiencing problems with a brand new computer that coasted me close to 4000 Euro's, apparently Apple is still shipping out Mac Pro's with faulty graphics cards since i have read a post only yesterday from a guy who has received his brand new mac pro and gets nothing but static when turning it on. now with all due respect but this is absolutely unacceptable especially since the problem is wel documented and people started complaining about it soon as the first macpro 2010 models got delivered in august, we're almost 5 months further and not "1" word from apple on this problem or how they are going to fix this. Now i don't care how much someone's into a particular brand but this is just ridiculous, especially for a company that claims to be "the best with the best customer care". Its obvious Apple doesn't care about its customers or they would have jumped on this problem from day one...actually if they had descent quality check these machines wouldn't even get delivered.

Being more quit about updates is one thing, not saying a word about the faulty machines or graphics cards they put in the computers is something else.

One thing i learned = don't believe the hype

 

[Macsplorer]

I guess the interesting part is: com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43224

I did a Google search and it seems you're not alone:

http://www.google.com/search?q=kernel panic com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43224&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Maybe you can find something...

Hey Bit and Star, thanks for you guys help and time. I called and opened a case with AppleCare yesterday. They indicated they had a few calls about this and the Apple Eng. were looking into it. I didn't have my SL cd with me, but what they were going to have me do was verify disk permission and verify disk and fix if anything was found. When I got home the verify disk was ok, the verify permissions found some stuff but it always seems to find something. At least on my system.

The other steps I took were back up using time machine, format the disk, verify the disk then reinstall SL, and do a restore from the Time Machine backup. This was late last night. I've done a few things this morning and it seems...well it hasn't kernel panic yet. The one question I have is with a Time Machine backup if you have issues wouldn't they transfer over to the new system since you're copying settings/preferences and the like?

I didn't realize while asking my question I would walk into a platform warzone of MAC vs PC.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

Another Apple customer overly concerned about Apple profits? There is something very unnatural about this.

Apple's profits come from slave communist labor! Treason at the least.

 

[dyn]

What a long winded response that does nothing to address my assertion. Security bugs are one thing - resolving an issue when dragging contacts from Address Book to iCal is an entirely different matter. The majority of fixes for Win 7 have been security related, the majority of fixes for SL has been functionality related. Big difference.

There is a big difference indeed but not the one you're talking about. Windows is about 99,99% closed source. OS X uses quite a lot of open source software and parts of it are open source too. This makes it a lot easier to find bugs. Also, the open source community is known for its bug hunting contests. This is the main reason why Microsoft products have less bugs than open source products and why you can't compare solely on amount of bugs. Ubuntu and other Linux/UNIX systems have nearly daily or weekly updates. This means you get fixes almost instantly. With Windows you'll have to wait until patch Tuesday. It doesn't say anything about how buggy the software is, it says something about how quick they get things resolved. Regarding bugs, it mostly comes down to how quick you can get it fixed.

Again, if you want to discuss this you need to start talking about impact, severity and how long it takes them to get bugs resolved. Microsoft has a bad reputation on all 3 accounts. It has slightly improved it since Windows 7 but they've still got a long way to go. It would help if they would organise bug hunting contests like the open source community does.

Mind you, if I were to use your way of thinking about bugs it would mean OS X is more secure since it has less security related bugs than Windows 7 has. With your way of thinking Windows 7 would be insecure and therefore not recommended. In other words: start thinking about what you're saying (or not because it's hilarious ).

No, it still does not work. If you scroll a website with embedded you tube videos it still stops when the cursor hits the videos

Duh, that would be a functionality bug. They only fixed security related bugs. Apart from that, I haven't seen this issue the last 4 years in OS X with Flash.

not trying to step on anyone's toes here but i can't help but getting the feeling that Macs/Apple isn't as magical as i thought out to be...i'm a first time Mac owner for a few weeks. It seems to me that there is allot of "lets keep our fingers crossed and hope that it works". wasn't OS x super stable and o so good in comparison to windows?

It still is software and quite complex software even. If you add your own software to that mix you'll get an even more complex situation. The problem is that developers like Microsoft and Apple need to test each and every combination. There are limitless combinations out there which make this job simply impossible. They'll test some combinations, than roll out seeds to developers so they can test their own combinations and applications. But since you can't test everything the end user still has the possibility of running into strange problems. In IT they've got this saying "of course it doesn't work, we have performed a software update!". This is why backups are so very important. When sysadmins do updates to any piece of software (application, OS, driver) they hold their breath ("let's see what it broke this time").

Macs are like other computers. The only big difference is the way they work. Most Mac users consider Macs to be very easy to work with unlike Linux, Windows, etc.

 

[pondosinatra]

...

Mind you, if I were to use your way of thinking about bugs it would mean OS X is more secure since it has less security related bugs than Windows 7 has. With your way of thinking Windows 7 would be insecure and therefore not recommended. In other words: start thinking about what you're saying (or not because it's hilarious ).

You could also argue MS takes security more seriously and is more proactive at resolving security related bugs than Apple is - you can also argue that security through obscurity with Apple is not security at all. Unlike a lot of posters on here I can see both sides of the argument. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

But hey, 10.6.5 does seem snappier

 

[pondosinatra]

10.6.5 changed the mouse double click speed.
It has made my mouse painful to use now, if it ain't broke...
Thanks apple.

Really? Hmmm haven't noticed that - are you using a magic mouse?

 

[S.B.G]

i do understand we are dealing with technology here so ofcourse there are going to be problems at one time...the problem i'm having is that i was experiencing problems with a brand new computer that coasted me close to 4000 Euro's, apparently Apple is still shipping out Mac Pro's with faulty graphics cards since i have read a post only yesterday from a guy who has received his brand new mac pro and gets nothing but static when turning it on. now with all due respect but this is absolutely unacceptable especially since the problem is wel documented and people started complaining about it soon as the first macpro 2010 models got delivered in august, we're almost 5 months further and not "1" word from apple on this problem or how they are going to fix this. Now i don't care how much someone's into a particular brand but this is just ridiculous, especially for a company that claims to be "the best with the best customer care". Its obvious Apple doesn't care about its customers or they would have jumped on this problem from day one...actually if they had descent quality check these machines wouldn't even get delivered.

Being more quit about updates is one thing, not saying a word about the faulty machines or graphics cards they put in the computers is something else.

One thing i learned = don't believe the hype

Since it's brand new, take it back under warranty and have them replace it with a working one.

 

[reel2reel]

Since it's brand new, take it back under warranty and have them replace it with a working one.

Replacements don't make a difference. It appears to be a driver issue.

 

[Macsplorer]

My Joy with 10.6.5 was short lived I'm back to kernel panic, instead of every 5-7 minutes it may wait 45 minutes or an hour until I decide to work intensely on something. Guess I will be calling Apple Care again to see if they have and further suggestions, or will I have to wait for a fix of sorts.

 

[cmaier]

How does Microsoft get root access to your machines over the Internet? Do they know your admin password, or have you authorized some setuid "helper" tool to run on their behalf?

Either way, those stealth installs do sound like a nightmare (if not outrightly so, then at least one waiting to happen).

Windows' auto-install updates feature (at least on XP - I have no experience with the newer OS's) is built such that no user intervention is required (if enabled). i.e. no need to enter a password.

 

[vaina667]

is it true that now we can format our pendrive with exFat format on mac?
if so, how can i do it?
thanks

 

[danny_w]

Windows' auto-install updates feature (at least on XP - I have no experience with the newer OS's) is built such that no user intervention is required (if enabled). i.e. no need to enter a password.

And that is always the first thing I disable on any Windows install. I don't want updates installed unawares! I always want to check and authorize any updates before they happen.

 

[HLdan]

I am confused. Are you saying that people should not discuss OS X problems on this forum?

There's a difference between discussing problems and FLAMING the product as you do and many people here can see that daily that you are an Apple hater QFT.

 

[Hal Itosis]

Windows' auto-install updates feature (at least on XP - I have no experience with the newer OS's) is built such that no user intervention is required (if enabled). i.e. no need to enter a password.

Sounds like being pwned is a "feature" then?

 

[rye9]

After the update, my settings were changed to permanently keep my keyboard backlight on... anyone else experience this? I highly doubt I accidentally changed the settings to such and forgot. I hope nothing else was changed on me...

 

[hoefler]

Since it's brand new, take it back under warranty and have them replace it with a working one.

that would be great, unfortunately when i was asking for one that worked they said they couldn't guarantee that the new graphics card wouldn't have this problem...in other words "we know there's a problem with the graphics cards and lots of people have contacted us about it but we keep shipping faulty machines out anyway"

and yes, Apple is very much aware of this problem since they guy i talked to actually said that there indeed where "some" problems with these particular cards.

 

[AidenShaw]

How does Microsoft get root access to your machines over the Internet? Do they know your admin password, or have you authorized some setuid "helper" tool to run on their behalf?

It doesn't, Windows has no "all powerful" root account.

Windows' auto-install updates feature (at least on XP - I have no experience with the newer OS's) is built such that no user intervention is required (if enabled). i.e. no need to enter a password.

Well, if you have no experience with a Windows system released since 2001, perhaps you should listen instead of speaking.

Anyway, you're wrong for the last couple of Windows systems at least. An administrator password is required to make changes to the automatic update services (these are roughly the same as what are called "daemons" in a certain family of operating systems developed in the 1970s).

I'm sorry that you had an unfortunate auto-update event. As we can see from the threads on 10.6.5, sh#t sometimes happens to both Apple and Microsoft users. I have auto-update enabled on all of my systems except for most production servers. (Mainly because it's highly unlikely that a single-task production server needs any particular patch.)

 

[gr8tfly]

After the update, my settings were changed to permanently keep my keyboard backlight on... anyone else experience this? I highly doubt I accidentally changed the settings to such and forgot. I hope nothing else was changed on me...

I found the brightness all the way up, but otherwise the backlight continues to function as before (I have it on automatic). I just turned the level back to where I had it (about half-way).

 

[wesrk]

After this update now I'm getting my fans up every time I watch a youtube clip, which wasn't happening before. I updated flash before the 10.6.5 update and had no problems, but now, it happens every single time. I'll wait and see if flash comes out with another update, which is highly unlikely and 10.6.6 seems far away so… I don't know.

 

[Melkorr]

Really? Hmmm haven't noticed that - are you using a magic mouse?

No, I am using a Logitech MX500 and it was working perfectly with 10.6.4.
If I click and hold the mouse button on a song in itunes to move it OS X recognises it as a double click instead and starts playing. Yes, I have tried changing the double click speed in System Preferences. It is on the second slowest at the moment with no change.

 

[Eric5h5]

No, I am using a Logitech MX500 and it was working perfectly with 10.6.4.

I have a Logitech MX518 and it continues to work exactly like always. I would assume there's a mechanical problem with your mouse button. Some years ago I had a mouse which eventually got worn out and had similar problems.

--Eric