This is the first Apple OS update I'm not going to install for a long time, if ever. Maybe if I ever buy a new machine. I had several application lockup problems, and that's not even counting 32-bit being removed, which i find more of a problem than that! And to top it off, my Time machine backup was messed up. I had to actually mount the sparse bundle and get at the backup data that way because the migration asisstant ran for days "loading backup" and ending up doing nothing, and I couldn't go back further than the install time by using time machine.
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Apple Releases macOS Catalina Supplemental Update With Fixes for Installation, iCloud Login, and Game Center Bugs
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I tried it, but I had too many video crashes in the VM, what I wanted to run, wouldn't. I didn't try VMWare Fusion, that may have worked. I got sick of the problems, flattened the whole machine and reinstalled mojave...
Yes, I'd argue the early 64-bit requirement for kennel extensions was planned obsolescence on Apple's part. Macs like the 6,1 iMac and 2,1 Mac Pro were obsoleted years before they should've been because the graphics kexts were never compiled for x64, which resulted in an effective cap at Mountain Lion (though with the Mac Pro you can upgrade the GPU and use a custom boot.eft to circumvent this). The official OS these Macs are stuck at is Lion, meaning they never even got the improvements / fixes found in Mountain Lion. It was a terrible exercise of planned obsolescence that never should've happened.
Now to the topic of apps. Nothing prior to June 2017 on the timeline ever hinted at 32-bit app support leaving the OS, meaning any app compiled for Intel Macs between 2006 and June 2017 could be 32-bit without the developer having known it'll stop working in future versions of MacOS. It's not always developer laziness, sometimes the reasoning is 32-bit dependencies. Or compatibility with those old 32-bit Intel Macs, because maybe the developer thinks a simple app or utility that doesn't need 64-bit features should run on as much hardware as possible. Regardless, if you can point me to a 32-bit app built after the June 2017 announcement on the timeline, then I will happily say that is the developer's fault.
That what gets me. These developers have known for years that 32-bit has been deprecated but they just don't seem to care until they start getting nasty letters from users. Dymo has such a lock on the market they feel like they can do whatever they want.
I don't mind the additional services, but they're bonus features. The OS itself has to work properly and right now it doesn't. I'm considering cancelling iCloud Drive and Apple Music until that's the case.
I have no problem of the ones mentioned in this thread (Im commuting so I have a lot of time to kill).
All apps works even illustrator cc 2018 Adobe things will not work and Papers3 (works better in Catalina).
The only app that does not work is media button enabler.
One person run into problems at work with the installation but he had very little free space on his boot ssd.
Im just lucky guy (MacBook Pro 2018 and 2012)
All apps works even illustrator cc 2018 Adobe things will not work and Papers3 (works better in Catalina).
The only app that does not work is media button enabler.
One person run into problems at work with the installation but he had very little free space on his boot ssd.
Im just lucky guy (MacBook Pro 2018 and 2012)
I did my upgrade after 4 download attempts, 3 of which ended with "deleting download" type messages and the install itself went fine, none of the Icloud issues or anything else. This was on an early 2015 Macbook Pro, pre exploding batteries.
I did have two casualties, I had to upgrade my VM Ware Fusion for for 80 bucks (kept getting black screens) and I had one 32 bit program I had deleted before the install, Scrivener. I should qualify this and say I tend to do a clean install and reinstall of software every year or so which helps.
Apple should have given an option to run 32 bit software much like when Windows 7 was installed you had a copy of Windows XP you could run inside it
I did have two casualties, I had to upgrade my VM Ware Fusion for for 80 bucks (kept getting black screens) and I had one 32 bit program I had deleted before the install, Scrivener. I should qualify this and say I tend to do a clean install and reinstall of software every year or so which helps.
Apple should have given an option to run 32 bit software much like when Windows 7 was installed you had a copy of Windows XP you could run inside it
You are not alone. Mine was a disaster - but this update looks to have fixed the issue. Seeing my 32gb ram screaming for mercy as Mojave was using 98% capacity isn't much fun. 98% of 32gb!!!
I've been thinking about upgrading, but am concerned about no support for 32-bit apps. I still occasionally use Dreamweaver CS5 (very occasionally), but am most concerned about games. Steam says it's 32-bit only on the system report, though I understand there is a 64-bit version available. I'm not sure about Rocket League or some of the older Call of Duty games I occasionally boot back up.
How big of a deal have people found that? This is the first time in a long time I haven't upgraded almost right out of the gate.
How big of a deal have people found that? This is the first time in a long time I haven't upgraded almost right out of the gate.
Props if your dog reference was related to the mistyped “kennel extensions” in the preceding post.
Personally, I’m holding off for at least a month or two.
So my MacBook Air does not show an update available. How can I force the issue?
as I need the supplemental because I cannot sign in yo my iCloud account after upgrading to Catalina
as I need the supplemental because I cannot sign in yo my iCloud account after upgrading to Catalina
My installation of Catalina bricked my late 2013 iMac. The problem was some sort of conflict with my added RAM (Crucial) that would not permit Catalina to install. After removal of the offending RAM, the install completed but crashed again, when the RAM was reinstalled. After two days on with Apple Support, I lugged my iMac to the Apple Store. It took them 2.5 hours to get a clean install of High Sierra! The RAM that worked perfectly before Catalina was now presenting a problem.
So the choice was to toss my Crucial RAM ($200) and install Apple RAM for way too much money, or accept the $350 trade-in and buy a new iMac. I did the latter, reluctantly. The upgrade to Catalina cost me $2,100 basically.
And the final irony is my new iMac runs Mojave. I am not upgrading to Catalina until 2020, if ever.
So the choice was to toss my Crucial RAM ($200) and install Apple RAM for way too much money, or accept the $350 trade-in and buy a new iMac. I did the latter, reluctantly. The upgrade to Catalina cost me $2,100 basically.
And the final irony is my new iMac runs Mojave. I am not upgrading to Catalina until 2020, if ever.
I Had only minor problems with beta iPadOS 13 and 13.1 and only maybe 1 small bug after final release of iPadOS 13/iOS 13. I don't have Catalina on my iMac yet because I still did not finish processing photos from 2019 wedding season + there are some 32-bit libraries in Ps/Lr that can cause issues (which is Adobe problem). However, my wife has Catalina on her 12-inch 2016 MB since day 1 and there were no issues during or after install+no issues during usage. From what I understand on this forums most users have problems with 32-bit apps compatibility (if I don't count post-install hangup which also happened to my friend with Mac Mini 2012 and the HDMI issue with 2018 Mac Minis).
I did a clean install on my 2015 MBP and the initial perfection was a false dawn. Yes it’s much faster now. But some key functionality is really broken. Fast and broken isn’t so useful.
Yeah, the minority that reads the installation instructions and follows generally accepted data management practices. I've been doing this since MacOS 9. Backup, reformat, install, migrate data. Blaming Apple for poor personal data management is just laughable. How many of you with installation issues even bothered to backup your data? Yeah? Crickets.
So tell me why I am getting kernel panics every day after a fresh install and NO DATA/SOFTWARE?
Mojave never had a kernel panic. Windows 10 never crashes.
I got another Safari update tonight, but it is still called 13.0.2 just like before. Same list of bug fixes too. strange.
Safari Technology Preview was updated today.
Release 94 (Safari 13.1, WebKit 15609.1.6.1)
People with no issues “minority” as you call them, have no need to post here hence all you ever read on macrumors are negative posts.
