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Apple cares less about their software and more about making TV shows.

Yeah, cause same team of directors and screenwriters obviously work part time as developers...

Or maybe not and Apple has different divisions? Could that be true?
 
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Yes, it's bigger & the more efficient hardware helps. So it's a big improvement over the Xs and older devices.
From the just released iPhone 11 review on Anandtech: "In virtually all of the SPECint2006 tests, Apple has gone and increased the peak power draw of the A13 SoC; and so in many cases we’re almost 1W above the A12. Here at peak performance it seems the power increase was greater than the performance increase, and that’s why in almost all workloads the A13 ends up as less efficient than the A12...
The total power use is quite alarming here, as we’re exceeding 5W for many workloads. In 470.lbm the chip went even higher, averaging 6.27W. If I had not been actively cooling the phone and purposefully attempting it not to throttle, it would be impossible for the chip to maintain this performance for prolonged periods.
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From the just released iPhone 11 review on Anandtech: "In virtually all of the SPECint2006 tests, Apple has gone and increased the peak power draw of the A13 SoC; and so in many cases we’re almost 1W above the A12. Here at peak performance it seems the power increase was greater than the performance increase, and that’s why in almost all workloads the A13 ends up as less efficient than the A12...
The total power use is quite alarming here, as we’re exceeding 5W for many workloads. In 470.lbm the chip went even higher, averaging 6.27W. If I had not been actively cooling the phone and purposefully attempting it not to throttle, it would be impossible for the chip to maintain this performance for prolonged periods.
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All that nonsense aside, the battery life is phenomenal compared to the Xs and older. It's just a fact until Apple cripples it with software updates.
 
Interesting idea - does this work? Has anybody tried this?

I use Fusion rather than Parallels, but I've had High Sierra and Mojave VMs running since August, in preparation for this. The apps I've kept have been less necessary than sentimental, often not only 32-bit but Carbon as well; this includes an old game I wrote. Once I installed Catalina, the Mojave VM covered my Epson scanner for one day, till they released their updates.
 
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I have never been more afraid of an OS update. I have apps like Dymo LabelWriter that are still 32-bit and from what Apple says, it just won't run in the new 64-bit OS.

if you rely on 32bit apps, keep using Mojave, its going to be supported for another three years.

All developers have known since Snow Leopard, Apple would be switching to 64bit and ditching 32bit.
 
Yeah, cause same team of directors and screenwriters obviously work part time as developers...

Or maybe not and Apple has different divisions? Could that be true?

Absolutely. It's just that the one division is paid well and appreciated enough to still care about their products, the other division apparently not so much...
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if you rely on 32bit apps, keep using Mojave, its going to be supported for another three years.

Have you found a hidden internal roadmap that confirms this claim? Or has Apple magically changed their way of doing business and they now actually release roadmaps and product lifecycles to the public?
 
I have never been more afraid of an OS update. I have apps like Dymo LabelWriter that are still 32-bit and from what Apple says, it just won't run in the new 64-bit OS.

Well, it won't run on Catalina. Nothing that still requires 32-Bit support runs on Catalina. We have over 70 printers here that do not work with Catalina because they still use some 32-bit libraries. On top of that, the installer also still is a 32 bit app. So we won't be rolling out Catalina any time soon, and we've also warned our users with root privileges not to upgrade their machines. If they do, the only work around for them would be to print through one of our Windows Terminal Servers.

On top of that Catalina comes with a lot of Windows Vista-style pseudo-security crap that nobody asked for, that nobody wanted and that does not actually help anybody and it certainly does not increase security in any meaningful way. Users will just treat it like they treat "Cookie" pop-ups on websites or like they have treated all those "Cancel or Allow" message boxes on Windows Vista back in the day. The irony here is that Apple used to make a lot of fun about Vista -- without having learned ANY lesson, so naturally they reproduced the very same mistakes now with Catalina.
 
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Or maybe budget is diverted from one to the other? Just calmly asking.

I don't know how Apple has their budget split between different departments. I work for international IT corporate and every department has their own finances they keep track of, their own deals where they "earn" their money (which ultimately goes to "mother"), their own yearly budget for payrise, salaries and stuff like that. There is no diverting of budget between departments although it is true that some departments have more budget for salaries and benefits than others (which results in more income from deals and so on).
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Absolutely. It's just that the one division is paid well and appreciated enough to still care about their products, the other division apparently not so much...

As I wrote in other post, I have no idea how Apple is set-up regarding the divisions but the TV part and developing part to me seem so far away from each other that they don't have same stream of income. And, of course, if you look at sheer numbers, TV division needs to have larger budget as they need to pay for making of TV show vs developing OS. But on the other hand that doesn't have to mean that OS division is under paid.
 
I successfully upgraded my 2018 Mini to Catalina, before the official Apple warning to not do so was issued, and before this supplemental update. I have an old HDTV plugged in HDMI to HDMI, and another old Dell monitor plugged in via USB-C. Not very high tech but works for me.

TBH I’ve had monitor issues on restart since it was new on Mojave. It would often take a couple of restarts and some unplugging and plugging to get both monitors up. And it never remembered the monitor settings - it would start mirrored every time and I would have to change it and move the menu bar in the prefs.

That hasn’t changed with Catalina or with this supplemental upgrade. For me (contrary to the experience of others) it seems to do better with just the HDMI to HDMI monitor alone.

My opinion is that the 2018 Mini monitor issues are in hardware. Hopefully there is a software or firmware fix for this. I’d like to have my second monitor back.
 
my problem is Catalina is an incremental update, not major overhaul.
It should not have so many issues. Quality control surely is not held up to its previous standard.
 
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my problem is Catalina is an incremental update, not major overhaul.
It should not have so many issues. Quality control surely is not held up to its previous standard.
It is a major overhaul, but on because of many new user related features. Its underpinnings have changed quite a lot, so yeah, it is a big update..
 
Yeah, cause same team of directors and screenwriters obviously work part time as developers...

Or maybe not and Apple has different divisions? Could that be true?

Apple doesn't have unlimited cash. Apple wants to be a service company, not a hardware/software company and it is starting to show. You can''t possibly defend the condition that iOS and MacOS were released in.
 
Anyone else have the Supplemental Update freeze? It's sitting there with an Apple Logo and a static progress bar. Is it safe to reboot the machine?
 
Well, it won't run on Catalina. Nothing that still requires 32-Bit support runs on Catalina. We have over 70 printers here that do not work with Catalina because they still use some 32-bit libraries. On top of that, the installer also still is a 32 bit app. So we won't be rolling out Catalina any time soon, and we've also warned our users with root privileges not to upgrade their machines. If they do, the only work around for them would be to print through one of our Windows Terminal Servers.
Out of curiosity, what printers do you use? A little surprised that the software hasn't been updated. If the printers are old, kudos to keeping them well maintained & finding ink/toner for them!
 
Ugh. "This is a hot mess." Worst...update...ever." "OMG everything is broken and it's so buggy."

Are you all using the same software as me? Or this one of those things like, "Starbucks coffee tastes burned to me," where people have no idea what it means but just find it fashionable to say?

Are you actually reading the issues some of us are having? They're neither minor nor made up.
 
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my problem is Catalina is an incremental update, not major overhaul.
It should not have so many issues. Quality control surely is not held up to its previous standard.

Let's see...splitting a boot device into a "Volume Group" with distinct volumes for the system (read-only) and user data, while still looking like a single volume and largely working like one...no, nothing "major" here at all. :)
 
I appear to be reply #250 and from the looks of all previous ones, the negatives far outweigh the positives. Hence, I am recommending NOT to update right now to all my Apple using friends. Who needs the grief and also has the TIME to stay on the phone with Apple or read hundreds of "fix it" ideas to repair a once well-running computer?

No Thanks, Apple. Get this hot mess fixed "yesterday."
 
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