Apple Releases macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 With eGPU Support, Business Chat in Messages, and More

[macpanzer]

It's the same for me. Probably, one of the most annoying bugs ever. It's ridiculous, this update supposed to fix things not break even more!

It's getting seriously annoying having to constantly decrease the window size (height) after opening Safari 2-3 times. Tried to delete all preferences, settings, cache etc related to Safari but that didn't help either.

I found a piece of AppleScript on the web that resizes (and repositions) Safari windows, but that would need to be run every time a Safari window is opened, so not a good solution either. Or could that be automated somehow?

Thinking about reverting to 10.13.3.

 

[Weaselboy]

It's getting seriously annoying having to constantly decrease the window size (height) after opening Safari 2-3 times. Tried to delete all preferences, settings, cache etc related to Safari but that didn't help either.

I found a piece of AppleScript on the web that resizes (and repositions) Safari windows, but that would need to be run every time a Safari window is opened, so not a good solution either. Or could that be automated somehow?

Thinking about reverting to 10.13.3.

https://manytricks.com/moom/

The app Moom can remember window sizes for you. I use it and it works well.

 

[w5jck]

It's getting seriously annoying having to constantly decrease the window size (height) after opening Safari 2-3 times. Tried to delete all preferences, settings, cache etc related to Safari but that didn't help either.

I found a piece of AppleScript on the web that resizes (and repositions) Safari windows, but that would need to be run every time a Safari window is opened, so not a good solution either. Or could that be automated somehow?

Thinking about reverting to 10.13.3.

Just FYI: I'm not seeing this bug with my MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014). I read here that some are definitely experiencing it though. I wonder if it is related to certain Macs only or some add-on equipment or modification. But again, I'm lucky and glad that my MBP is not experiencing it.

 

[macpanzer]

Just FYI: I'm not seeing this bug with my MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014). I read here that some are definitely experiencing it though. I wonder if it is related to certain Macs only or some add-on equipment or modification. But again, I'm lucky and glad that my MBP is not experiencing it.

Yeah, it seems to be limited. Otherwise there would be a lot more complaints on the internet. I'm on a 2015 13" MBP.

My first suspicion was a browser extension, but I only have 2 of them - Enpass and Adguard. Removed both of them, but the issue remained.

https://manytricks.com/moom/
The app Moom can remember window sizes for you. I use it and it works well.

Seems interesting, but really overkill in this situation.
Anyway, I would need Tim Cook's credit card number to buy it, he would be more suitable to cover the costs of Apple's shortcomings

 

[jagooch]

I have doubt that there will ever be support for fusion drives. They are quickly becoming obsolete.

the annouced apfs support for fusion drives at wwdc, so they have to deliver. the question is when.

 

[Phil in ocala]

Black Screen after Update on my MacBook Pro 2016... :-/

Update: Did a forced restart after 15 minutes of black screen... now it tells me it will take 15 minutes to finish the installation

Update 2:
macOS started and reopened all apps while I had a blank window with spinning gear on top of it... after like 2 minutes the Mac asked me for my password again... then Apple wanted to know if I want to share system information with them...

Come on Apple...

Update 3:
The AppStore is back with the "hey let's install 10.13.4 since although I went through all the steps above, I'm back on 10.13.3...

Let's not try this again

????????
The people at Apple do not actually test out their updates....and thus...you have this problem.

 

[Mac32]

Yep, and my iMac Pro monitor turns on at near maximum brightness, every time the computer/OSX is started (no matter what). This is such an obvious bug, and it's mind boggling that Apple didn't catch it before cranking out their (yet another) half-assed update.

 

[chucker23n1]

Guys, help me out here. The 10.13.4 update runs beautifully on all my macs but Etrecheck points out some 32-bit apps that are still not updated. But these are Apple apps. I find it weird that Apple has not updated them. DVDPlayer.app to me seems quite useless and I will not be using it. But what about quicklookd32? I see there is now a newer version, quicklookd.app, so I guess quicklookd32 can be trashed? Then there is InkServer. What do I do with these?

If you don't play DVDs and don't use Ink (macOS handwriting recognition), you're fine.

quicklookd32 is specifically for Quick Look previews of 32-bit applications.

 

[StellarVixen]

Damn, that 'Ink Cloud' wallpaper looks stunning with Dark Mode. It is like it's made specially for it. I am loving it!

This update increased the boot up time for me, noticeably, I must say. I do have the FileVault turned on, so boot up is somewhat slower, but it is longer than before, I am not crazy.

Everything other works splendid, so far.

 

[LinkinJunior]

Anyone with a 2014 Mac Mini with external ssd startup have any issues with this update?

 

[VictorTango777]

You have to show the sidebar then you will see the sort options when you right click. Is that what you meant?

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Don't Apple's Human Interface Guidelines state that a context menu (right clicking) should not be the only way to access a command? Is the Sort command also available in the menu bar?

 

[EDS66]

Yep, and my iMac Pro monitor turns on at near maximum brightness, every time the computer/OSX is started (no matter what). This is such an obvious bug, and it's mind boggling that Apple didn't catch it before cranking out their (yet another) half-assed update.

[doublepost=1522550884][/doublepost]I signed up to reply. My iMac Pro is doing the same thing. Brightness at about 90 percent on every restart. Searched the web, and this is the only instance of anyone complaining about this. I was starting to suspect my hardware. PRAM reset and SMC reset have had no effect. I think they FUBARed something in the AppleBacklightExpert.kext.

 

[interessiert]

10.13.4 doesn't show up in software updates on my 2015 MBP. (on 10.13.3)
I don't use betas.
Any idea how to fix this?

Same here with 15“ tbmbp 2017. don’t know what to do.

2 ways:
1. Just waiting
2. download newest OnyX version from titanium - then take "automation" click everything active (except trash, web browser, crash protocols) - let it run - after restart - once more switch off and restart Mac - then it should work. For frequent use of OnyX do not activate cpu cache cleaning.

Good luck!

 

[Blawsogis]

Apple supports hardware just long enough to slow it to a crawl, and if you're lucky the final update will brick your device.

I naively updated an old 4S and 2010 MBP to the final versions, thinking the final OS would be the most efficient... Horrible mistake. 4S had been my gym ipod; now it freezes if I click Settings. The macbook became noticeably slower, but that was easy to roll back.

 

[aevan]

So...nothing about Fusion Drives/APFS so far...And that's irritating!

It is frustrating, but if you want APFS and have a FD with 128Gb SSD, you can split them and convert the SSD to APFS regularly.

I actually found out that splitting the drive works really well for me. I keep my Photos Library, Dropbox and OneDrive on my HDD and all of my apps and current projects on the SSD. I don't see any noticeable speed decrease when accessing any of my files from the HDD, while the system and all the apps work great on the SSD, and the main drive is APFS as a plus.

Hope this helps.
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????????
The people at Apple do not actually test out their updates....and thus...you have this problem.

Of course they test updates. With millions of Macs with millions of different software combinations out there, these things happen. In our studio, after a Windows update there are always machines with serious issues, same with Macs. These things happen. Most people will update fine. I had no issues on my 2016 MBP and 2014 iMac 5K for example.
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I naively updated an old 4S and 2010 MBP to the final versions, thinking the final OS would be the most efficient... Horrible mistake. 4S had been my gym ipod; now it freezes if I click Settings. The macbook became noticeably slower, but that was easy to roll back.

You have an 8 year old computer that still gets the latest OS updates and you're angry that it slowed down? You do know that operating systems get new features, they get more demanding, just like any software? Do you think the latest Photoshop doesn't require more hardware resources than the one from 8 years ago? Or any other software for that matter. Find me a Windows laptop from 2010 that wouldn't be slow today, if it tried to run the latest software.

4S is also really old - in phone years it is really, really old. The fact that it still works and has a fairly recent version of iOS speaks volumes on the longevity of Apple's products.

 

[Mac32]

NB! I strongly recommend using the Combo update. After I updated my MacBook (early 2016 model) through App Store, it would freeze 20-30 seconds after waking up from sleep (or just hang completely). Also the screen would be all static for blink when lifting up the screen. Something's off. Updating with the combo version seems better so far. (Though it didn't fix the monitor brightness issue on my iMac Pro.)

EDIT: My MacBook still freezes after waking up from sleep, most of the time. Hmm.. I've installed this update on two machines, and both got issues. Should never have updated to High Sierra in the first place. This has been a disappointing OS. No new real benefits (for me at least), but only poorer performance and various bugs.

 

[Blawsogis]

You have an 8 year old computer that still gets the latest OS updates and you're angry that it slowed down? You do know that operating systems get new features, they get more demanding, just like any software? Do you think the latest Photoshop doesn't require more hardware resources than the one from 8 years ago? Or any other software for that matter. Find me a Windows laptop from 2010 that wouldn't be slow today, if it tried to run the latest software.

4S is also really old - in phone years it is really, really old. The fact that it still works and has a fairly recent version of iOS speaks volumes on the longevity of Apple's products.

The last OS for 2010 MBP was Yosemite. Yes I'm aware tech gets old; I also have a 2013 i7 imac and a 2014 rMBP and a 6 and an 8+; I like Apple. I am literally asking them for nothing---I would like Apple to let me do nothing. The 4S served one simple purpose (music) well and I wanted it to keep doing that. But occasionally I took it off airplane for light Safari. Do that, and every ten minutes Apple is pushing a notification "Critical iOS Security Update---Strongly suggested for all users". All you can do is click cancel cancel cancel cancel cancel cancel cancel... Can't turn it off. Eventually I got sick of it and clicked yes, and that ruined the phone. Two clicks = crash. Can't roll back iOS. So yes I am irritated they bricked my little gym ipod. The 2010 MBP wasn't as bad and that I could undo.

I refuse to throw out perfectly good tech just because it is 8 years old. Apple just leave me alone and I will be happy.

 

[Weaselboy]

Don't Apple's Human Interface Guidelines state that a context menu (right clicking) should not be the only way to access a command? Is the Sort command also available in the menu bar?

I'm not seeing it anywhere there.

 

[atikalz]

Finally able to sort bookmarks in Safari, a small thing but been waiting for this since 2008

No Favicons, No Safari! Still waiting since forever...

 

[macpanzer]

Looks like I've managed to track down the setting causing Safari's increasing window size.

If the tab bar is permanently enabled (View - Show tab bar) then the vertical window size increases every time Safari is opened by the same height as the tab bar.
If the tab bar is not enabled from View menu, the vertical window size stays constant. Even when during browsing pages are opened in tabs and browser is closed with multiple open tabs it will not change the size of the window when Safari is opened next time.

Also it seems that there has been a change in the behaviour of how the tab bar is displayed. Before it used to increase the vertical size when a new tab was opened (window enlarged towards the bottom of the screen). Now the tab bar takes its space from within the existing window, keeping the overall height unchanged.

 

[Lbrtn]

failed update on 2012 rMBP. system is relatively fresh (few months old).

now everytime it reboots it boots into "Failed to install macOS" and i have to hold option when booting to get to my 10.3.3 system.

I got into the same trouble with my MBA 2011. After rebooting a few times and getting an error log I thought that my system was damaged by a failed update and I really started to think how I will need to get my usb drive, go to my friend’s house and download a macOS image, do a fresh and clean installation. I didn’t know it was possible to get out of this loop and go back to the previous OS version by pressing ‘option’ key until i found your post. Thank You!

After I was able to boot into 10.3.3 I tried to update again and everything went fine this time.

 

[w5jck]

Looks like I've managed to track down the setting causing Safari's increasing window size.

If the tab bar is permanently enabled (View - Show tab bar) then the vertical window size increases every time Safari is opened by the same height as the tab bar.
If the tab bar is not enabled from View menu, the vertical window size stays constant. Even when during browsing pages are opened in tabs and browser is closed with multiple open tabs it will not change the size of the window when Safari is opened next time.

Also it seems that there has been a change in the behaviour of how the tab bar is displayed. Before it used to increase the vertical size when a new tab was opened (window enlarged towards the bottom of the screen). Now the tab bar takes its space from within the existing window, keeping the overall height unchanged.

I had the tab bar set to NOT be permanently enabled. So that is probably why I didn't see any issues. After I permanently enabled it, the first time I opened a new window that window was X by Y size. The second time I opened a new window the window was X+slightly more by y+slightly more size. The second opened window I'll name Xa by Ya size. All subsequent new windows were Xa by Ya size. So the window sizes only increase once, not every time a new window was opened. The window size did not keep increasing with each new window. So there is an issue, but it doesn't seem to be consistent across Mac models. I'm using a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014). After I returned the tab bar setting to NOT be permanently enabled, the issue went away.

Safari is rather buggie from time to time, as are many other areas of Mac OS X and iOS. Apple really needs to concentrate on squashing bugs rather than giving us stupid features that are little more than fluff, like the animoji crap. Still, it is way better than Windows and Android. But they should set the bar way higher again.

 

[mudflap]

No AirPlay 2 no Messages in iCloud, sad.

And if they were included and didn't work absolutely perfectly, you'd complain about that too. I'd rather they wait until they get it right.

 

[mscuthbert]

What benefit would the DVD Player app have by migrating to 64-bit?

It would let Apple tell developers "no worries -- updating a 32-bit app is a snap" and also signal that it's generally safe to update your OS without losing core functionality.

 

[w5jck]

It would let Apple tell developers "no worries -- updating a 32-bit app is a snap" and also signal that it's generally safe to update your OS without losing core functionality.

I personally think DVD players have gone the way of floppy disks and dinosaurs. Anything that required a DVD player a few years ago can be downloaded directly. Even OS updates can be downloaded. Perhaps some people have old movies or music on DVDs and Blu-Ray discs, but eventually those will deteriorate just like all the other long deceased media formats. No one seems to complain these days that the VCRs are basically extinct, though you can still find them for sale occasionally. They moved on and bought the next latest media format for their data files. Time to move on from DVD and Blu-Ray, at least as far as computers go. I think if Apple dropped support for them, most of us would not even notice.