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Apple Releases macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 With eGPU Support, Business Chat in Messages, and More

Weaselboy said:
You have to show the sidebar then you will see the sort options when you right click. Is that what you meant?


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Mine looks different. I see that you can sort by right clicking on a folder. For me, my Bookmarks I am trying to sort aren't in a folder and there is no sort by right clicking them.

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ThisIsNotMe said:
And of course this update completely kills external DisplayLink docks. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Thank you for being a Plugable Triple Display Docking Station user.

If this product is being used with a Mac, we have important news about macOS 10.13.4. This new macOS release only supports displays which are directly provided by a GPU or via AirPlay.

For this dock, this means versions of Apple macOS after 10.13.3 will only support the single 4K HDMI port on the dock which uses DisplayPort Over USB-C technology (which is directly GPU connected). The second and third displays on the dock -- the DVI and 2K HDMI ports using DisplayLink technology -- will no longer function. Windows and Chromebook computers are not affected, and will continue to work as usual.

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To continue to use all dock functions with your Mac, macOS updates must be disabled to remain on 10.13.3. To do so, uncheck the two highlighted boxes in the screenshot below. The boxes to uncheck (disable) are "Download updates in background" and "Install macOS updates" These are found in the "App Store" portion of "System Preferences" within macOS.

Source: https://www.displaylink.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85602&postcount=114
 
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Val-kyrie said:
Can you provide more details pls? GPU? Enclosure? Benchmarks? Etc?
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Sure, I was having the same issue during public beta 5 and 6. Then I went back to 10.13.3. Today, I updated it thinking they would solve the problem. It might be related only to my product maybe or my Mac. After the boot, everything works nice but after a while, the eGPU performance drops way too much. I use Geekbench to check it. I’m waiting for a call from an Apple engineer since they couldn’t solve it via chat.

My setup consists of 15” late MacBook Pro, Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box 550w and Sapphire RX 580 Pulse 8gb. As an external monitor I’m using Dell P2715Q.
 
The loss of displaylink removes my ability to upgrade to this release. Thanks for the post it saved me alot of time going forward only to roll backwards. With the number of these docks out there you would have thought that Apple would have made it very clear in the Release Notes that the upgrade kills Display link!!! Thats kind of a killer for alot of businesses that use docks such as Dell etc for both windows and MACs. Looks like I could be stuck on 10.13.3 for a long time. I signed up to displaylink to get notification when they release upgrades.

Another sad day on Apple breaking a fundamental component and not even mentioning that they where going to do so. The non-disclosure part makes an upgrade hit and miss which should not be the case for a 0.0.x release you would think. Lack of respect for the users i guess and a thought process they can do anything they want.

Thanks again you saved me countless hours.

ParanoidDroid said:
Thank you for being a Plugable Triple Display Docking Station user.

If this product is being used with a Mac, we have important news about macOS 10.13.4. This new macOS release only supports displays which are directly provided by a GPU or via AirPlay.

For this dock, this means versions of Apple macOS after 10.13.3 will only support the single 4K HDMI port on the dock which uses DisplayPort Over USB-C technology (which is directly GPU connected). The second and third displays on the dock -- the DVI and 2K HDMI ports using DisplayLink technology -- will no longer function. Windows and Chromebook computers are not affected, and will continue to work as usual.

TAKE ACTION

To continue to use all dock functions with your Mac, macOS updates must be disabled to remain on 10.13.3. To do so, uncheck the two highlighted boxes in the screenshot below. The boxes to uncheck (disable) are "Download updates in background" and "Install macOS updates" These are found in the "App Store" portion of "System Preferences" within macOS.

Source: https://www.displaylink.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85602&postcount=114
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tommiy said:
The loss of displaylink removes my ability to upgrade to this release. Thanks for the post it saved me alot of time going forward only to roll backwards. With the number of these docks out there you would have thought that Apple would have made it very clear in the Release Notes that the upgrade kills Display link!!! Thats kind of a killer for alot of businesses that use docks such as Dell etc for both windows and MACs. Looks like I could be stuck on 10.13.3 for a long time. I signed up to displaylink to get notification when they release upgrades.

Another sad day on Apple breaking a fundamental component and not even mentioning that they where going to do so. The non-disclosure part makes an upgrade hit and miss which should not be the case for a 0.0.x release you would think. Lack of respect for the users i guess and a thought process they can do anything they want.

Thanks again you saved me countless hours.
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camelia said:
Thanks! Thanks! :)
Any direct links update for Gatekeeper or Xprotec?

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Sometimes they install automatically so you can check first which versions you have already and also which is the most up to date version available - because you may or may not need to update them, depending on what you have installed already.

First check what versions you have with these commands in terminal:

For gatekeeper version:

/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Print CFBundleShortVersionString" /private/var/db/gkopaque.bundle/Contents/Info.plist

For xprotect version:

/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Print CFBundleShortVersionString" /System/Library/CoreServices/XProtect.bundle/Contents/Info.plist

Now check the most up to date version available by downloading the pkm files and opening with textedit:

https://swdist.apple.com/content/do...5dm17745t9533omjwwn7/GatekeeperConfigData.pkm

https://swdist.apple.com/content/do...ugaphfx5iutbek52z/XProtectPlistConfigData.pkm

Inside you will see CFBundleShortVersionString="138" for gatekeeper and CFBundleShortVersionString="2099" for xprotect.

So if your results from the terminal commands were lower than that you can update them with the pkg files from here:

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...5dm17745t9533omjwwn7/GatekeeperConfigData.pkg

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...ugaphfx5iutbek52z/XProtectPlistConfigData.pkg
 
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Not sure if this describe one of the symptoms of the lack of support for DisplayLink. I have my MacBook Pro late 2016 connected to a 32" 4k monitor via an OWC TB3 dock. everything seems to be working fine, but I do see some strange behavior. For example if a switch to LaunchPad view the image lags and sometime pauses for a sec or two.
Never experienced this with 10.13.3.
Thanks
 
tommiy said:
Thats kind of a killer for alot of businesses that use docks such as Dell etc for both windows and MACs. Looks like I could be stuck on 10.13.3 for a long time.
Thanks again you saved me countless hours.
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Sure, I was watching carefully the DisplayLink forums for months. Gladly, it paid off. I'm in the same situation and have no choice but to stick with 10.13.3 for a while. My business environment uses DisplayLink docks from HP everywhere. If I upgraded now, I'd be unable to work or have on-site meetings. I don't know what Apple was thinking...

There are a lot of businesses that utilize DisplayLink docks in the office/meeting rooms, and I can't just rip cables apart at a shared workspace every time I need to connect to an external monitor or projector.
 
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ParanoidDroid said:
Thank you for being a Plugable Triple Display Docking Station user.

If this product is being used with a Mac, we have important news about macOS 10.13.4. This new macOS release only supports displays which are directly provided by a GPU or via AirPlay.

For this dock, this means versions of Apple macOS after 10.13.3 will only support the single 4K HDMI port on the dock which uses DisplayPort Over USB-C technology (which is directly GPU connected). The second and third displays on the dock -- the DVI and 2K HDMI ports using DisplayLink technology -- will no longer function. Windows and Chromebook computers are not affected, and will continue to work as usual.

TAKE ACTION

To continue to use all dock functions with your Mac, macOS updates must be disabled to remain on 10.13.3. To do so, uncheck the two highlighted boxes in the screenshot below. The boxes to uncheck (disable) are "Download updates in background" and "Install macOS updates" These are found in the "App Store" portion of "System Preferences" within macOS.

Source: https://www.displaylink.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85602&postcount=114
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Would have been helpful if I wasn't already 100% screwed.
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tommiy said:
The loss of displaylink removes my ability to upgrade to this release. Thanks for the post it saved me alot of time going forward only to roll backwards. With the number of these docks out there you would have thought that Apple would have made it very clear in the Release Notes that the upgrade kills Display link!!! Thats kind of a killer for alot of businesses that use docks such as Dell etc for both windows and MACs. Looks like I could be stuck on 10.13.3 for a long time. I signed up to displaylink to get notification when they release upgrades.

Another sad day on Apple breaking a fundamental component and not even mentioning that they where going to do so. The non-disclosure part makes an upgrade hit and miss which should not be the case for a 0.0.x release you would think. Lack of respect for the users i guess and a thought process they can do anything they want.

Thanks again you saved me countless hours.
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Yeah. Release notes could have saved me countless hours. :mad::mad::mad:
 
I'm worried that DisplayLink support is gone for good. Since apple supports any external eGPU only via Thunderbolt 3.

DisplayLink is technically a virtual GPU that runs via USB. Here is how DisplayLink describes its technology:

  1. DisplayLink software installs and acts like a normal display on the host. It detects monitors connected through a DisplayLink device and presents them to the operating system (for example Windows) as if they were normally attached monitors.
  2. The OS then creates frame buffers for each display and the OS puts the display content there. <- 10.13.4 broke that part, since it's not a Thunderbolt 3 device.

  3. The DisplayLink driver then picks up the pixels in the frame-buffer, encodes them and send them to the DisplayLink device.

  4. The DisplayLink device then decodes these frame buffers and presents them to standard video interfaces like VGA, HDMI or DisplayPort. An on-board frame buffer means the DisplayLink driver only needs to send changes to the screen content. It can also adapt the compression so that the link is shared equitably with other services while maintaining high quality.
Source: http://www.displaylink.com/corporate/how
 
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RamGuy said:
Apple Time Machine Backups towards the latest generation Apple Time Capsule is still bugged for me? It has been like this with every 10.13.4 BETA thus far and its still the same with the release version. It just can't see my Time Capsule disk using Time Machine on my MacBook Pro 13-inch with Touch Bar.

My fiancee's machine running 10.13.3 can see it and use it without any issues. I'm somewhat hesitant on updating her machine without knowing it its a isolated bug only happening to my machine or if its a 10.13.4 thing.
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Nevermind.. It was a DNS-bug on my MacBook Pro. Had to reset it using the terminal and now my AirPort Utility and Time Machine Backup is able to resolve the Time Capsule IP.
 
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MikhailT said:
The protection is to prevent a script from grabbing your password credentials for all sites, this has already been proven in a major security exploit a few months ago. It's why a certain password manager didn't allow this to work in the first place despite so many people requested it.

There is no such validation on the website's part, especially if they're using scripts hosted elsewhere such as ads. If the website's devs didn't do protect their assets right, you can visit the website with a login form hosted from a third party service and it can silently switch between various domains to grab your passwords without you knowing. So, if you think you're visiting macrumors, an invisible script can load to request access to Facebook, Reddit and the browser can auto-fill them in without you knowing.

By stopping the automatic fill, such malware cannot grab all of your data but only that site.

The web browsers are the most hostile environments there are right now. We're progressing in the wrong way with demanding too much JS for simple actions everywhere. Which is another reason everyone should be using content blocker.
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Fair response, and one that I won't disagree with. That said, if the website can capture my ID/PW, does have it not auto-populate really make a difference?
 
ParanoidDroid said:
Sure, I was watching carefully the DisplayLink forums for months. Gladly, it paid off. I'm in the same situation and have no choice but to stick with 10.13.3 for a while. My business environment uses DisplayLink docks from HP everywhere. If I upgraded now, I'd be unable to work or have on-site meetings. I don't know what Apple was thinking...

There are a lot of businesses that utilize DisplayLink docks in the office/meeting rooms, and I can't just rip cables apart at a shared workspace every time I need to connect to an external monitor or projector.
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I'm in a similar position with about 1000 odd macs. It seems apples process is that the apple ecosystem shall not include anyone else and seem to forcibly remove everything that is not apple. I'm considering returning to windows because it now seems to be more open than apple and minor release don;t break existing capability these days (well don;t seem to).
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ParanoidDroid said:
I'm worried that DisplayLink support is gone for good. Since apple supports any external eGPU only via Thunderbolt 3.

DisplayLink is technically a virtual GPU that runs via USB. Here is how DisplayLink describes its technology:

  1. DisplayLink software installs and acts like a normal display on the host. It detects monitors connected through a DisplayLink device and presents them to the operating system (for example Windows) as if they were normally attached monitors.
  2. The OS then creates frame buffers for each display and the OS puts the display content there. <- 10.13.4 broke that part, since it's not a Thunderbolt 3 device.

  3. The DisplayLink driver then picks up the pixels in the frame-buffer, encodes them and send them to the DisplayLink device.

  4. The DisplayLink device then decodes these frame buffers and presents them to standard video interfaces like VGA, HDMI or DisplayPort. An on-board frame buffer means the DisplayLink driver only needs to send changes to the screen content. It can also adapt the compression so that the link is shared equitably with other services while maintaining high quality.
Source: http://www.displaylink.com/corporate/how
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Reading the displaylink forums at present it would appear that apple may have actively broken display link for good. I suppose we wait for the new apple announcement on their next overly priced dongle that will replace it.
 
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Unfortunately this update has given me the black screen with cursor problem, on an iMac Pro.
Still unable to perform the update.
After several start-up in single-user, reinstalled from recovery-mode I am holding off for now.
Too bad this kind of bugs still persist in OS X (Updates)
 
fairuz said:
I use them but not the same way as before where I look through a list of bookmarks. If I want something saved, I bookmark it, then Safari's search finds it automatically. This should've been a feature even in the 90s.
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Thanks. This sounds about right for my understanding what they'd be used for. I'm guessing most people are search driven as opposed to obsessing over keeping them in explicit folders. I could be wrong but it's an interesting circumstance of precisely how people utilize bookmarks (if at all).
 
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I tried to post an issue in the apple support forums on the displaylink problem and they censored it because i complained about the quality of bug fixes breaking existing capability. Seems that its a definite known enhancement of the bug fix.
 
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Just updated my early-2011 MBP with no (apparent) issues using the Combo Updater. Took only 14 minutes. However, I noticed that my iTunes is still at 12.7.3. I went to the App Store to find the 12.7.4 update, but it claims that no updates were available. I remember seeing that update earlier there (along with the (non-combo) 10.13.4 Update). Guess I'll have to find it on Apple's website.
 
Russell L said:
Just updated my early-2011 MBP with no (apparent) issues using the Combo Updater. Took only 14 minutes. However, I noticed that my iTunes is still at 12.7.3. I went to the App Store to find the 12.7.4 update, but it claims that no updates were available. I remember seeing that update earlier there (along with the (non-combo) 10.13.4 Update). Guess I'll have to find it on Apple's website.
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Not really. It is here:

https://secure-appldnld.apple.com/i...-32EB-11E8-9560-CEB2B071F5CF/iTunes12.7.4.dmg

I posted it before on page 6.
 
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