Apple Releases macOS High Sierra With Apple File System, Safari Autoplay Blocking and Privacy Tools, Metal 2, and More

[tarund]

Going to post this as a warning here - on a clean install of High Sierra, VMware Fusion 8.5 (currently 8.5.8) does not work. When launching a VM it throws an error:

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Don't know if it is any different with an upgrade over 10.12 to 10.13.

Edit: VMware Tech Preview 2017 can't also start VM's

Edit #2: it works afterall!
During the installation it shows a notification about software from VMWare.inc being blocked and that it can be enabled in System preferences, Security & Privacy.. and indeed, after that there is a button which allows the kernel extension to run. The button disappears afterwards.

Confusing, but... that’s the Apple of today

Can you please clarify which version of Fusion works for you with HS? Is it Fusion 8.5.8, or the latest Technical Preview of Fusion? Thank you.

 

[greenmeanie]

No GoogleTalk for Messages is lame.
Also need APFS for HD's

 

[macpanzer]

Can you please clarify which version of Fusion works for you with HS? Is it Fusion 8.5.8, or the latest Technical Preview of Fusion? Thank you.

8.5.8
I didn’t try the Tech. Preview anymore after the release version started working.

 

[pat park]

High Sierra can be found when you open the App Store app, and it is one of the Featured Items.

This is what I had to do. It wasn’t showing up under updates but was available on the App Store front page. Installing now on my 2017 MBP 13”w/touch bar. Seems to be going pretty fast.

 

[cmaier]

Seems more stable on my TB MBP than the GM did.

 

[BornAgainMac]

(Snipped from https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/macos-10-13-high-sierra-the-ars-technica-review/)

As Apple discussed at WWDC this year when it talked about the conversion process in iOS 10.3, the installer doesn’t actually touch user data on the disk. Instead, HFS+ metadata is copied to free space on the disk, converted to APFS metadata, and checked for errors. If everything checks out, the HFS+ superblock is replaced with an APFS superblock, and the conversion is done with minimal risk of data corruption.

Wow, that is some 2017 tech there. Good job on Apple.

 

[meboy]

I'd recommend a broader sample size. For example, somewhere where a wide variety of people felt free to post both positive and negative examples. Users could then weigh up the pros and cons at their leisure. An open forum of some kind.

But where would we find such a place?

Certainly not here.
This is where all the Apple apologists hang out.
You would have to post modify the numbers to be about 70-80% more rational somehow.

 

[steve333]

I still haven't gotten an upgrade alert from the App Store, which is fine by me since I'm holding out a little while

 

[Lioness~]

I still haven't gotten an upgrade alert from the App Store, which is fine by me since I'm holding out a little while

Neither have I. But It goes fine to download the installer anytime I want, it’s there.
Don't plan to install HS until all functionality comes to fusiondrives anyway.
Verified and tested for good performance.

Don’t have time for computer mess right now

 

[Russell L]

Just installed HS on my "old" early-2011 MBP with a 1TB Samsung SSD. Took about an hour and 15 minutes. No issues that I can find so far; in fact, everything really seems quite zippy/snappy. (Honestly!)

 

[Martyimac]

HS installed on my 2015 13" rMBP no fuss no muss. Letting it sit to let the system do whatever it does after a full install.

 

[Apple Bite]

oh I get it now... Apple want that Macs little by little turn into desktop iPads!

 

[RezSeeker]

My (third party) Crucial MX300 ssd updated from Sierra to High Sierra with APFS with no problem.

 

[LinkinJunior]

Upgraded Mac mini 2012 with ext. ssd.

Only issue I see for now is that iconservicesagent seems to hog down the computer, this happens when I open a folder with lots of video files.

 

[Lbrtn]

Just got my first system freeze while playing a Youtube video fullscreen in Safari on a MacBook Air 2011. Happened before in the betas. Only way out is a to power off.

Another MBA '11 owner here. Got 2 freezes in two days. The first one happened while i was simply browsing Facebook news feed in Safari on one Desktop and had Photos app and Finder both open in split screen mode on Desktop 2.
The second freeze happened at night. I just left it run overnight, so that photoanalysisd could index my photos and i was unable to log in to the system in the morning. The laptop was hot, with loud fan noise. I had to hard reboot it.
I've had a pretty bad experience with Sierra, but i see that with High Sierra it may get even worse...

 

[Pilotmacuser]

My 2015 4K iMac install failed at about 30%. The installer was stuck on “calculating time remaining” for about 12 hours. I hard restarted the iMac and it was bricked. Luckily had another Mac to download High Sierra and create a boot drive. Installing now.

 

[Bart Kela]

I dare someone to install this on a 2010 Mac Mini that has an internal SSD & 8Gib RAM.

I successfully installed macOS High Sierra on my Mac mini server (mid-2010) last night.

Over the years I had the original twin 500GB hard drivers removed, replaced the boot drive with an SSD and the second drive with a 1 TB spinner (I never turned them into a Fusion drive). It has 8 GB RAM.

I used a bootable USB and for some reason, the installation hung on the first attempt yesterday evening. The second installation attempt went smoothly (I let it run overnight) and woke up to the High Sierra login screen. The boot SSD was converted to APFS (and freed up quite a bit of space); the spinner remained a HFS+ drive.

I did not get to use it much this morning before I headed to work, but it seemed to work fine for the mundane tasks I put it through (Mail, Safari, another web browser, iTunes).

 

[lainvoo]

Yep. But the problem was I was NOT using 307 GB's.

So my only assumption is that the upgrade to 10.13 left some serious junk behind (~187 GB worth of junk) which did not show up anywhere, nor was cleaned up during reboots.
I have now set up the computer fresh, exactly to how it was before, only it's now on 10.13 instead of 10.12. And disk usage now is exactly what it was before the upgrade, about 120GB used.

I did some digging and found a solution to this. In short "tmutil listlocalsnapshots" and "tmutil deletelocalsnapshots". For step-by-step guide I made a thread which you can find here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/solution-reclaim-storage-back-from-system.2073174/

 

[steve333]

The last Safari update prior to high sierra makes it really slow to access bookmarks. When I click on the bookmark drop down menu the icons are blank then it takes a few seconds for the icons to show and then I can finally scroll down.
It's VERY annoying

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

The last Safari update prior to high sierra makes it really slow to access bookmarks. When I click on the bookmark drop down menu the icons are blank then it takes a few seconds for the icons to show and then I can finally scroll down.
It's VERY annoying

I have seen this issue also and it's odd.

 

[steve333]

I have seen this issue also and it's odd.

I wish someone would come up with a solution

 

[steve333]

I go to App Store and High Sierra isn't even listed as an update option. I find that odd unless Apple pulled the update for a security fix.

 

[flowsy]

Another MBA '11 owner here. Got 2 freezes in two days. The first one happened while i was simply browsing Facebook news feed in Safari on one Desktop and had Photos app and Finder both open in split screen mode on Desktop 2.
The second freeze happened at night. I just left it run overnight, so that photoanalysisd could index my photos and i was unable to log in to the system in the morning. The laptop was hot, with loud fan noise. I had to hard reboot it.
I've had a pretty bad experience with Sierra, but i see that with High Sierra it may get even worse...

Tried to nail it down and thought it could have been my content blocker. It almost always happened with a YouTube video playing either in the back- or foreground. Switched from Wipr to Adguard beta extension and also disabled TimeMachine backup to an external drive for now. Maybe it were all these Photos processes, I don't know - but it didn't happen again since. *fingers crossed*

 

[MisterAndrew]

I think this article needs to be updated to say that Metal 2 won't be available until Spring 2018 because it appears that no Mac under High Sierra 17A365 supports feature set OSX_GPUFamily1 v3, only feature set OSX_GPUFamily1 v2.

 

[philosopherdog]

Just installed last night on 2016 MBP with touchbar. I'm finding it blazingly fast so far with any file operation like opening DMG files and installing apps, and Safari seems a lot faster to me. Seems like a solid update. I personally prefer it when they don't try to do too many new whiz bang features. Stability, speed and new file system are perfect for an OS that's pretty much got everything.