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Apple Releases macOS Sierra With Siri, Apple Pay, Apple Watch Unlock, Universal Clipboard, and More

Staffa said:
Question. I have a mid-2009 MBP so I cannot update to macOS. I have my laptop backed up with TimeMachine/TimeCapsule and am planning (along with everyone else) to get the next MPB (Skylake?). So, when I go to set up the new laptop (whenever that may be), it will come with macOS preloaded and installed yet my own 2009 MBP is running El Capitan... is that a problem? Do I need to somehow downgrade the new laptop to El Capitan so it recognizes the back up and after all is transferred over then re-upgrade to macOS on the new laptop?

I hope that question makes sense..
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macOS should "do the right thing" and restore your applications and files even from an older OS X's backup.

-Matt
 
Its the first OSX release that I've thought I didn't really need to install.

:-(

Its like a 0.5 release, not a full iteration.


SirRahikkala said:
Anyone else who thinks that this upgrade was bit useless?

I don't use iCloud, iPhone or Watch, so that drops most of the new "features" away. Auto unlock (no Apple watch), Universal clipboard (no iPhone or iPad anymore), iCloud drive sync (I have disk space and use dropbox and no iPhone and to fully benefit you need to pay iCloud subscription), Apple Pay (not working here outside US), Siri (crippled outside US), Photos and Apple music features (Photoshop and Spotify), Messages (Still no iPhone anymore, back then it was great feature), tabs everywhere (really?).

Don't get me wrong but this feels like "new strap to your Apple Watch" kind of update. This would be amazing update if A) I would live in US B) I would have iPhone and Apple Watch. For non-US person who is not 100% in Apple eco system, this is just a patch.
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Installed Sierra on 3 MacBook Pros and 1 MacPro. The 3 MacBook Pros work fine, so far Evernote is the only app that crashes when launched and a reinstall of the app from either the App store nor from Evernote.com work. Dealing with tech support on that.

For the MacPro (late 2013 editon), after Sierra install, several apps hang or are very slow even after waiting hours. Also, many apps become unresponsive even Apple's apps like iTunes, Mail,... and I needed to force quit the app. Finder becomes unresponsive frequently and after force quitting, I can't get finder back. Then I can't shutdown nor restart the computer, the only way to do it is to press-hold the power button.

Talked with Apple about the MacPro install and solution was to format the hard drive, install Sierra from scratch and then test (unacceptable at this point as it'll take me 20-40 hours to reinstall and reconfigure all my apps - lots of Photoshop and plugins, various small business software, VMWare,...) plus all of the issues with licensing companies that won't let you reinstall an app that you bought as the app is already registered and cannot be reinstalled a second time (ie: Microsoft is one that I typically have a lot of issues with to reinstall Office products).

Other solution was to restore the Macintosh HD drive from my Time Machine which is what I'm doing now. It's been restoring for 4 hours and another 5 hours to go by the looks of it.

Very happy that the MacBook Pros are working OK although totally disappointed that the MacPro install results in an unstable environment.
 
andrepfortier said:
Installed Sierra on 3 MacBook Pros and 1 MacPro. The 3 MacBook Pros work fine, so far Evernote is the only app that crashes when launched and a reinstall of the app from either the App store nor from Evernote.com work. Dealing with tech support on that.

For the MacPro (late 2013 editon), after Sierra install, several apps hang or are very slow even after waiting hours. Also, many apps become unresponsive even Apple's apps like iTunes, Mail,... and I needed to force quit the app. Finder becomes unresponsive frequently and after force quitting, I can't get finder back. Then I can't shutdown nor restart the computer, the only way to do it is to press-hold the power button.

Talked with Apple about the MacPro install and solution was to format the hard drive, install Sierra from scratch and then test (unacceptable at this point as it'll take me 20-40 hours to reinstall and reconfigure all my apps - lots of Photoshop and plugins, various small business software, VMWare,...) plus all of the issues with licensing companies that won't let you reinstall an app that you bought as the app is already registered and cannot be reinstalled a second time (ie: Microsoft is one that I typically have a lot of issues with to reinstall Office products).

Other solution was to restore the Macintosh HD drive from my Time Machine which is what I'm doing now. It's been restoring for 4 hours and another 5 hours to go by the looks of it.

Very happy that the MacBook Pros are working OK although totally disappointed that the MacPro install results in an unstable environment.
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[doublepost=1474476504][/doublepost]I have a 2013 Mac Pro and have had no issues with Sierra since the first Developer Beta. I am a graphic designer so I also have Creative Cloud as well as Apple's pro apps. I understand your frustration, and hopefully you've made back ups. If things are going slow, you can try creating a new user account to see if that fixes the problem. If not, try reinstalling macOS using the recovery partition. If that doesn't work you'll have to redo everything from scratch.
 
csalm87 said:
[doublepost=1474476504][/doublepost]I have a 2013 Mac Pro and have had no issues with Sierra since the first Developer Beta. I am a graphic designer so I also have Creative Cloud as well as Apple's pro apps. I understand your frustration, and hopefully you've made back ups. If things are going slow, you can try creating a new user account to see if that fixes the problem. If not, try reinstalling macOS using the recovery partition. If that doesn't work you'll have to redo everything from scratch.
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[doublepost=1474476962][/doublepost]I tried reinstall Sierra from the recovery partition and that didn't resolve my issue. Looks like I may need to reinstall it from scratch with all of the applications too.

I'll wait until Apple releases a patch and hopefully that would resolve outstanding issues. I have a lot of software on the MacPro along with many peripherals so not sure sure if any of these are causing the issue and if so, which one. Unfortunately the problem is at the overall operation level and not just a specific app.

It looks like it might be my main user as I tried setting up another user and it seems fine although it's hard to test that user as there isn't much installed with it.
 
SoApple said:
Let me know how your computer fairs after the update! Send me a pm. I'd appreciate it a lot :)
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Will do. Using El Capitan it still performed surprisingly well compared to the 2015 Macbook Air I have set up for my father last year.
 
CodeCowboy said:
Yeah...Guarantee that the only reason it doesn't work is because they have a kill-switch built in. I have fortunately, after three upgrades, gotten rid of my need for a windows environment entirely, now my computing is $50/year less expensive because I dropped the Parallels habit.
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I am running Parallels V10 with Sierra, no difference with El Capitan, what Parallels said was that V10 would not be supported anymore.
 
MAC OS 10.12 SIERRA!!

do you hate the usefulness of karabiner, FCP7 log and capture, and LibreOffice?

do you want apple to automagically sync your desktop and document folders across all your devices using some logic and process you can't pause, stop or otherwise control?

would you like to talk to your computer and have it respond with the same crippling lack of usefulness as your phone?

are you stymied by the fact that when you copy some bit of useless text on your phone and then wait upwards of 30 seconds, that same text isn't automagically propagated to the clipboard of your laptop?

are you hard at the thought of a built in utility half as capable of dozens of crapware "spring cleaning" type apps that do advanced things such as empty your trash for you on a predetermined schedule?

would you like to see the finder crash with a cool new dialog box that actually asks you if you want it to crash or to keep messing up without crashing?

do you love the bugs that make disk utility a piece of crap where it was formerly just fine? would you like mail.app to start crashing again?

are you nostalgic for the bug that made Ghostery bork the combined Safari search/url box in the early days of 10.11?

THEN UPGRADE NOW!
 
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brbttyl said:
MAC OS 10.12 SIERRA!!

do you hate the usefulness of karabiner, FCP7 log and capture, and LibreOffice?

do you want apple to automagically sync your desktop and document folders across all your devices using some logic and process you can't pause, stop or otherwise control?

would you like to talk to your computer and have it respond with the same crippling lack of usefulness as your phone?

are you stymied by the fact that when you copy some bit of useless text on your phone and then wait upwards of 30 seconds, that same text isn't automagically propagated to the clipboard of your laptop?

are you hard at the thought of a built in utility half as capable of dozens of crapware "spring cleaning" type apps that do advanced things such as empty your trash for you on a predetermined schedule?

would you like to see the finder crash with a cool new dialog box that actually asks you if you want it to crash or to keep messing up without crashing?

do you love the bugs that make disk utility a piece of crap where it was formerly just fine? would you like mail.app to start crashing again?

are you nostalgic for the bug that made Ghostery bork the combined Safari search/url box in the early days of 10.11?

THEN UPGRADE NOW!
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you're salesmanship is spot on

I'll take 5!
 
Not playing into Apple's tricks no more after what happened on El Capitan first releases. I'll wait until at least .4 before installing
 
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To make a bootable dvd of the Sierra installer copy and paste these into terminal to make the bootable iso file (assuming you have already downloaded Sierra to your Applications folder via the mac app store):

hdiutil attach /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app/Contents/SharedSupport/InstallESD.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/install_app

hdiutil create -o /tmp/Sierra.cdr -size 7500m -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

hdiutil attach /tmp/Sierra.cdr.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/install_build

asr restore -source /Volumes/install_app/BaseSystem.dmg -target /Volumes/install_build -noprompt -noverify -erase

rm /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System/System/Installation/Packages

cp -rp /Volumes/install_app/Packages /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System/System/Installation/

cp -rp /Volumes/install_app/BaseSystem.chunklist /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System/BaseSystem.chunklist

cp -rp /Volumes/install_app/BaseSystem.dmg /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System/BaseSystem.dmg

hdiutil detach /Volumes/install_app

hdiutil detach /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System/

hdiutil convert /tmp/Sierra.cdr.dmg -format UDTO -o /tmp/Sierra.iso

mv /tmp/Sierra.iso.cdr ~/Desktop/Sierra.iso

A bootable iso file called Sierra.iso will then appear on your desktop and you can use this to burn it to a dual layer dvd:

sudo drutil burn /Users/YOURNAME/Desktop/Sierra.iso

where you replace "YOURNAME" with the username for the account you are logged into at the time.

and then boot to startup manager with option key to select the dvd.
 
Anyone here using Photoshop CC and Clip Studio Paint (Manga Studio)? I'm concerned if those key apps work properly or not.
 
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