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Anyone else who thinks that this upgrade was bit useless?

I don't use iCloud, iPhone or Watch, so that drops most of the new "features" away. Auto unlock (no Apple watch), Universal clipboard (no iPhone or iPad anymore), iCloud drive sync (I have disk space and use dropbox and no iPhone and to fully benefit you need to pay iCloud subscription), Apple Pay (not working here outside US), Siri (crippled outside US), Photos and Apple music features (Photoshop and Spotify), Messages (Still no iPhone anymore, back then it was great feature), tabs everywhere (really?).

Don't get me wrong but this feels like "new strap to your Apple Watch" kind of update. This would be amazing update if A) I would live in US B) I would have iPhone and Apple Watch. For non-US person who is not 100% in Apple eco system, this is just a patch.
 
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Question. I have a mid-2009 MBP so I cannot update to macOS. I have my laptop backed up with TimeMachine/TimeCapsule and am planning (along with everyone else) to get the next MPB (Skylake?). So, when I go to set up the new laptop (whenever that may be), it will come with macOS preloaded and installed yet my own 2009 MBP is running El Capitan... is that a problem? Do I need to somehow downgrade the new laptop to El Capitan so it recognizes the back up and after all is transferred over then re-upgrade to macOS on the new laptop?

I hope that question makes sense..
 
Anyone else who thinks that this upgrade was bit useless?

I don't use iCloud, iPhone or Watch, so that drops most of the new "features" away. Auto unlock (no Apple watch), Universal clipboard (no iPhone or iPad anymore), iCloud drive sync (I have disk space and use dropbox and no iPhone and to fully benefit you need to pay iCloud subscription), Apple Pay (not working here outside US), Siri (crippled outside US), Photos and Apple music features (Photoshop and Spotify), Messages (Still no iPhone anymore, back then it was great feature), tabs everywhere (really?).

Don't get me wrong but this feels like "new strap to your Apple Watch" kind of update. This would be amazing update if A) I would live in US B) I would have iPhone and Apple Watch. For non-US person who is not 100% in Apple eco system, this is just a patch.


Please don't take this the wrong way, but your logic is flawless. The update would be even more useless if I didn't own a Mac to begin with..

I do understand that for one who might not own anything Apple but their Mac, this update may seem somewhat lacklustre. But it's not like the update does not provide some really nice features for users embedded within the Apple ecosystem.

Complaining and pretending the update does not add jack all doesn't really make much sense. Just because the features does not apply to your use case doesn't make the update useless. There are a lot of Mac users that also owns iOS devices. I bet most Mac users do. If you take that into consideration, this update/upgrade makes perfect sense.


And it's not like there are no under-the-hood enhancements in MacOS Sierra as well. You will benefit from all the updates to to the kernel, drivers and whatnot even though you might not fancy any of the new features being available.
 
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I just received a letter from Parallels that a new installation of V10 will not work with Sierra. Time to renew the semi annual Parelles subscription so to speak......
 
Taken about half an hour to go from 32 minutes remaining to 31 minutes remaining
 
I'm sure they said 'if you can run ElCap then you can run Sierra', did that change or am I just wrong?

– would love there to be a new Mac worth updating my Late'08 MacBook by now, yawn...
 
can't activate siri ? says check parental controls but i don't have any set?
 
The 312a was the first GM - Public build IIRC. The 323 was the "final" GM.
You have to download macOS Sierra again from the MAS to get the final GM / public version.
I did that 2x. It's downloading the beta existing GM instead of there final GM. On my MaPro i went form GM 312 to 320 to 323. I don't understand why App Store is not doing same for my MacBook 12". Any thoughts?

Only diff I remember is that I did not pull down the last GM on the MacBook 12" but why should that matter?
 
Dang, downloaded the OS in 10 minutes but it took 14 hours to install on a late 2013 iMac with 900GB of free disk space. Seems to be working fine but the startup time seems to take a bit longer.
 
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the os is not boring is just that you are bored then you think is the os, there are some people like that. they don't find things interesting or exciting. me i'm all the opposite i aways try to find a way to entertain myself even if is talking to the ants or looking at them doing their work. lol

'Boring' may be just what's required. I feel comfortable with steady evolution rather than revolution that turns out disastrous. There's enough new stuff in Sierra to keep me busy and I probably won't use or even know about it all before the next one comes out. Under the bonnet stuff is what really matters for me - stability.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way, but your logic is flawless. The update would be even more useless if I didn't own a Mac to begin with..

I do understand that for one who might not own anything Apple but their Mac, this update may seem somewhat lacklustre. But it's not like the update does not provide some really nice features for users embedded within the Apple ecosystem.

Complaining and pretending the update does not add jack all doesn't really make much sense. Just because the features does not apply to your use case doesn't make the update useless. There are a lot of Mac users that also owns iOS devices. I bet most Mac users do. If you take that into consideration, this update/upgrade makes perfect sense.


And it's not like there are no under-the-hood enhancements in MacOS Sierra as well. You will benefit from all the updates to to the kernel, drivers and whatnot even though you might not fancy any of the new features being available.

I totally agree with you and that was my original point, I don't own "all apple" and live in US so this update is bit irrelevant except under the hood.
 



Apple today released macOS Sierra to the public, making the latest Mac operating system available for free to all Mac users around the world. Apple seeded eight betas of macOS Sierra and multiple versions of the golden master before its official launch.

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macOS Sierra can be downloaded directly from the Mac App Store, and Apple should begin offering it through the Software Update function shortly. It's compatible with the following Macs:

2009 and Later
- iMac (Late 2009)
- MacBook (Late 2009)

2010 and Later
- MacBook Air (Late 2010)
- MacBook Pro (Mid 2010)
- Mac mini (Mid 2010)
- Mac Pro (Mid 2010)

macOS Sierra (10.12), which follows OS X Yosemite (10.10) and OS X El Capitan (10.11), features a new name that brings it in line with Apple's other operating systems, iOS, watchOS, and tvOS. The update focuses heavily on introducing new features to better integrate with the iPhone and Apple Watch and improve user experience.

macOS Sierra brings Siri to the Mac, allowing users to conduct voice searches to find files, look up information, and more, with the ability to pin searches to the Notification Center for continual monitoring. There are new Continuity features including an "Auto Unlock" option for unlocking a Mac with an Apple Watch, and a "Universal Clipboard" option for copying text on one Apple device and pasting it on another.

Better iCloud integration allows files stored on the desktop and in the Documents folder of a Mac to be accessible on all of a user's devices through iCloud Drive, and there are new deep learning algorithms in Photos for improved facial, object, and scene recognition that make searching for specific photos a whole lot easier.


A "Memories" feature in Photos displays collections of pictures and resurfaces old events, while Messages features rich links, bigger emoji, and Tapback response options.

Apple Pay is coming to the web in macOS Sierra, with payments authenticated through an iPhone or Apple Watch, and new features like multiple tabs, Picture in Picture multitasking, optimized storage, and revamped emoji are also available.

More information on macOS Sierra can be found in our macOS Sierra roundup, which includes details on all major features and a list of more minor changes. Our forum members are also discussing Sierra's new features in our macOS Sierra forum, and we encourage readers to join in with questions and new discoveries.

Article Link: Apple Releases macOS Sierra With Siri, Apple Pay, Apple Watch Unlock, Universal Clipboard, and More
[doublepost=1474463559][/doublepost]Here we go... nope. Nope, we don't go anywhere. They have their file server hosted on a dial-up connection apparently. I have 600Mbps on my connection took it all night to download a gig.
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I downloaded it and installed it on my late 2011 MBP. It runs very well, better than El Capitan for me. I have a Samsung SSD and 16GB of ram, though.

I'm still waiting for new Macbooks to arrive but I feel this may be the late OS this laptop can use.
 
I just received a letter from Parallels that a new installation of V10 will not work with Sierra. Time to renew the semi annual Parelles subscription so to speak......
Yeah...Guarantee that the only reason it doesn't work is because they have a kill-switch built in. I have fortunately, after three upgrades, gotten rid of my need for a windows environment entirely, now my computing is $50/year less expensive because I dropped the Parallels habit.
 
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