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Apple Releases macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 With Fix for USB Hub Bug
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My M2 Studio shows the update as available. My M1 MacBook Pro does not. They are three feet from each other.
The Internet is weird.
The Internet is weird.
Where are the freakin iPads?????
I’m at 14.3.1, I’m glad this update has been released but I will wait a couple week to insure there are not additional problems
I am indeed both blind and deaf with a hint of smell of asparagus and coal
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I have researched it to death... and tested it with a wide variety of new and old enclosures with and without powered & unpowered hubs myself and am nearly completely confident this IS a macOS bug and not all of the redirects that tend to get slung when this topics comes up (firmware, cable, hubs, user error, settings, etc). Too many people, with too much differing equipment, etc are suffering the problem (but not everyone of course). The most telling in all of the research was with many people upgrading from pre-Big Sur to a newer version of macOS, crashing into the problem with their enclosure(s), then- needing the stable enclosure more than the update- downgrading and the enclosure works fine again. To me that screams where this problem lies because everything else remains the same.
I've got an important RAID enclosure forced retired because it can't keep its connection... unless I take it to any older Mac and then it is as stable as it can be. It is very frustrating that the "just works" company can't resolve this bug over now nearly 4 generations of macOS.
My M2 Studio is doing it now, about to reboot, just time to post this... It's also my content cache for my other systems so i would hope it would show up for them right away too; at least when I get around to them...
If you have important systems, wait a least a month to update to the newest version.
You'll have way fewer problems.
This is awesome news for the dozen people who are still running Java software on Macs in 2024!
I really wish Apple would reserve changes that cause compatibility breakage for the annual major release instead of minor point releases.
You shouldn't be afraid that a printer will stop working when going from 14.3 to 14.4. Saving these changes for the major release will ensure it gets caught in the long beta testing period.
You shouldn't be afraid that a printer will stop working when going from 14.3 to 14.4. Saving these changes for the major release will ensure it gets caught in the long beta testing period.
The "rapid security response" patches are supposed to do that (untie security updates from OS updates), but Apple has only used the feature twice outside of betas, and the 2nd time was two days later to fix some bugs they introduced with the first one. I find it unfortunate they don't use this more.
It still receives some critical security fixes but is on its last few months of support.
They took so long to release this hopefully all the bugs are crushed
I think you are being excessively aggressive considering Apple these days. Of course, Apple bugs tend to be much more prevalent June through December.
Comparison of 14.4.1 to previous 14.4 Public
macOS 14.4.1 (23E224)
Note the Safari and Darwin Kernel changes
macOS 14.4.1 (23E224)
- Version 17.4.1 (19618.1.15.11.14)
- System Firmware Version: 10151.101.3 (M1 based Macs)
- Darwin Kernel Version 23.4.0: Fri Mar 15 00:12:41 PDT 2024; root:xnu-10063.101.17~1/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
- Version 17.4 (19618.1.15.11.12)
- System Firmware Version: 10151.101.3 (M1 based Macs)
- Darwin Kernel Version 23.4.0: Wed Feb 21 21:44:06 PST 2024; root:xnu-10063.101.15~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
Note the Safari and Darwin Kernel changes
You seem unaware that there are a variety of developer tools (like PyCharm) that use Java to run. There are many thousands of developers who are actively using Java on the Mac.This is awesome news for the dozen people who are still running Java software on Macs in 2024!
You would be surprised.This is awesome news for the dozen people who are still running Java software on Macs in 2024!
It's not about Java apps running on macOS, it's about Java developers using macOS, usually deploying to server platforms. Something I did since OSX Panther came out. macOS is an awesome developer environment for Java.
Desktop apps written in Java for macOS... not so much, beyond the IDEs themselves. IntelliJ IDEA is a Java IDE written in Java, for instance.
(And for some unknown reason I wasn't affected by this bug, but good to get the fix in anyway before I hit it...)
When OSX came out Jobs said Java would be an equal first-class citizen for developing desktop apps for it. That promise was broken, and the apple look-and-feel support has been withering of late. That said I think there's also a lot of internal-use corporate desktop apps written in java. I was responsible for the upkeep of one until recently.
Mine said it was stuck at 30 minutes, and then went suddenly from that to restarting in 60,59,58...