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Apple Releases macOS Ventura With FaceTime Handoff, Continuity Camera, Stage Manager, New Apps and More
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Locations isn't all gone. I have locations left over from a previous OS and I still have the Locations menu item in the apple menu.
Apple Removes Network Locations Feature in macOS Ventura
In addition to redesigning the System Settings app on macOS Ventura, Apple has removed the app's longstanding Network Locations feature, as noted...www.macrumors.com
They could bring it back if that is still present. This is the first version of Ventura with new system settings. They still need to release FreeForm in the future
macOS Ventura: Freeform app
What's gone is the interface for creating, editing, and deleting locations. For that you can thank the moron who decided to rewrite System Preferences into System Settings but didn't demand that all functionality be replicated in the new code. As someone else mentioned, the CLI tool for this still exists, fortunately.
There are *so many* bugs with the new System Settings. The worst, for me, is that you can't edit wifi network aliases. When you try, it actually shows you the settings for the primary wifi interface. You can get around this from the CLI, but it's a real PITA.
There are also a zillion little new bugs in Mail.app. It's really crazy - it's like they have someone on staff whose entire job is to introduce stupid little flaws in that app. And they've had that job since Snow Leopard. :-(
I was going to upgrade my iMac reasonably soon, but on second thought I think I'm going to keep my iMac on Monterey for the time being. Having my 12" MacBook on Ventura is good enough for playing around with for now.
It really makes no sense. Everything this is trying to accomplish is already done better by virtual desktops (or "spaces"). Spaces allow you to actually compartmentalize, they isolate in Mission Control and Exposé, you can swipe between them or get an overview in MC, and they don't take up 10% of my vertical space with dock2.0.
It honestly feels like this was created by someone who doesn't realize virtual desktops are a thing. The product manager either doesn't know how to efficiently use their own product; or is one of those people who reinvents the wheel for the sake of reinvention, because virtual desktops aren't "modern" and therefore something convoluted must be better.
My doomy sky-is-falling fear is that somewhere in the distant future they eliminate spaces/desktops in favor of everyone using stages.
I'm on RC2 as well. Never removed the profile. Yet it's mysteriously gone. Go figure.
Oh, and no update showing up for me either.
Have apple fixed the speaker popping issue on macbook 2019 16" that was reintroduced with Monterey? On launch, they had the speaker pop issue, apple sent out an update for Catalina (the version the macbook shipped with) specifically for this issue, which not only fixed speaker popping, but also drastically reduced the total volume for the speakers. I remember on purchase thinking the macbook sounded like a proper hi-fi system, then post fix the speakers sounded "tinny". Then I install the Montery update and speaker popping sounds are back, but the volume remains "tinny". Overall, if I could list all the issues with this macbook, it would have to be one of the worst from apple. Their most expensive macbook with support dropped for intel a year after sale. Them advertising it as having 4x the rendering speed in after effects as previous macbooks, yet adobe turning around and saying the AMD 5500M used is unsupported (so false advertising by apple). I also received 3 broken macbooks in a row, a faulty batch with bad i9 intel CPUs, took 4 months to get a working one after purchase. Since Monterey update (clean install), it also thermal throttles so badly that my 2016 dual core macbook without a gpu renders video faster...so basically I am expecting to install Ventura and my login screen to say "buy an ARM mac, sucker". $7000 macbook.
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and far from being pros, i get the feeling that most people using these machines can't even tell it's bad UX, simply because it animates with a 'woooo' factor.
i'm surprised there hasn't been more backlash and derision in response to this mess.
The 2011 line came with sautered-on SATA SSDs, so there never was a discrete drive to install or pull. So to what I have, there never was a difference, plus was completely rock solid on it. My wife's 2008 MBP never made it to Lion; the HDD and monitor started to go as the battery expanded in it short of blowing up for it to be used. Also, with it being configured with a Core i5, I never saw any degradation of performance.
Now, I'll definitely say there's a difference between night and day between that Core i5 and the M1 Pro 10/16/16 I now have. But even with that Core i5, one should upgrade hardware if there is the need (personal preference, security, or otherwise) to upgrade, not wait for a 5-year cycle to do so.
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No, it's made for people who don't know virtual desktops are a thing. The only purpose of Stage Manager and System Settings is to make iOS and iPad users familiar with macOS. A generation of people who grew up on their phones shall find their user interface concepts replicated on a Mac. Unfortunately this is inevitably going to alienate the old user base. Yes, you and me, we are old.😭
That's a good point, but even so it's crazy-flawed in its execution on Mac. There had to be a better way to do this.
Good UX scales; you can't design an operating system for a single persona (the "what's a computer?" gen-z) and ignore everyone else, as this pathetic 'solution' does. As someone else pointed out, macOS badly needed a better windowing system -- esp. for power users who actually make a living in intense desktop workflows -- and instead we're given this Fischer-Price crap.
Holding on to Monterey on my macs for another couple of months. At least until we’ve had the first one or two updates….
Yay! Docker Desktop is unusable again. And the missing xcode-select tools. Yeah, that's the stuff.
Very tempted but will probably wait for the .1 update and all the inevitable bugs squashed
Can you provide some details concerning the bugs? Would be interested to know before I start the upgrade
Anyone else experiencing somewhat weird behavior of the cursor after the update? (Macbook Air M1). It sometimes feels laggy, or spongy, I also noticed it when dragging around signatures in PDF documents...
If they want iPad users to feel familiar with macOS, then they should at least make both platforms behave similarly when it comes to Stage Manager. I have been using Stage Manager on iPadOS 16 since the first beta but never touched Ventura's. Today I used it on my Mac for the first time and it was extremely surprising.
Clicking on Safari in the sidebar brings forth all Safari windows instead of only one at a time (like on iPad, AND the WWDC demo).
Minimise (and Cmd-M) on the Mac only temporarily moves away a window from the current set, when you switch away and switch back the minimised windows will rejoin the stage. The only ways to remove it from the set is to drag it back into the side bar or select "Remove Window from Set" in the "Window" menu. On the iPad, minimising will remove the window from the set entirely.
Dragging from the sidebar is also the only way to add to a set on macOS. On iPadOS, there is the "Add Another Window" option that will pull up the App Switcher and a single tap adds it to the current set. There's no equivalent on macOS, you can't drag windows in from Mission Control. Speaking of...
Mission Control either groups windows by App or not at all, while iPad App Switcher groups by sets.
I like the idea of Stage Manager but they really need to iron out the details, preferably with both macOS and iPadOS teams working together.
I was testing the Beta on my 2019 MBP and it ran just fine. But, it's a lot better on my Studio!! I like stage manager it just takes some working with. One thing is before you turn on stage manager position your main app window a couple inches from the left side of your screen. Then turn on SM and then open the apps you want to use. That keeps them visible on the left. I just use it if I'm working on a project that requires multiple apps.
