Agreed. It can be a defense mechanism intended to minimize harm to oneself. But when the average man has an advantage over an average woman in strength, there is less reason to minimize harm to oneself and more reason to forcibly resist.
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Agreed. It can be a defense mechanism intended to minimize harm to oneself. But when the average man has an advantage over an average woman in strength, there is less reason to minimize harm to oneself and more reason to forcibly resist.
Yup. I won't say it's absolute consent by default, but hearing that a mentally sober 6 foot, 180+ pound man ended up being dragged down a back alley and raped by a 5'4 120 pound woman using nothing but physical strength, and realizing he didn't put up much of a fight...
...yeah, that'd be suspicious.
Plenty of equalizing factors in that scenario. Weapons, drugs, extortion.
Yeah, I mentioned as much. If there's a knife or a gun involved, it'd be no surprise why he'd choose not to struggle against his attacker. He might think it better to get raped and live, than get a knife stuck in your throat.
But if his attacker were just using her fist and feet, it would be a little sus, you have to admit. Most men can overpower most women in that situation.
You do not seem to have explained why women lost interest. I suppose that hiring and promotion discrimination, sexist behaviour and attitudes of male colleagues, and gender stereotypes have nothing to do with it...
For one thing, computer related fields did not come to the fore front until the early 80's. Before then they were too expensive, not very portable, hard to maintain and operate. Only government & universities could afford them.
Then in the early 80's they came out with affordable personal computers, even though they were still high for most people and mass produced in high enough quantities.
Just like I said before, the surge in women in the computer science field because it was totally new at the time. But heres the thing:
But men were also flocking to this new field at an amount higher and faster then women
I don't think women were leaving computer science because of harassment or discrimination ( Or leaving at all for that matter )
The down spike was due to men flooding to this new field increasing it, so the percentage of women would naturally decrease because of the greater increase in men.
Notice it only gives percentage of women and not the actual number of women.
Anything to propagate female victimhood instead of using basic math.
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That is correct 100%, a women a 5'2" women would not try to rape a man who is 6' tall and 250 lbs with brute force. You see humans are very intelligent, we have be using tools for 100,000's of years. I would assume that if a woman want to successfully rape a man she would have to use other means besides brute strength most of the time. You are trying to equate female rape with how a man normally gets raped which would be an apples to oranges comparison as we both agree that men are stronger. If any of these CDC statistics are true , I would assume that men being raped are not the victims of a brute force rape but rather extortion, drugs, incapacitation or use of weapons.
Trying to make excuses about how it's hard for a woman to rape a made is just silly. Any able bodied woman with sufficient cognitive ability could rape any man if she so choices. It has nothing to do with strength but rather the use of the human brain. Most rape of women is not an opportunity of chance by someone they know, I presume the number would be even higher for male rape victim most women could not rape a man without proper planning.
GAAWWWWD! Either you need a course in reading comprehension, or you're misrepresenting everything I say on purpose just so you can point your finger at me, and play the high ground. Either way, having to explain things to you in exacting detail so as not to leave room for reinterpretation is getting on my last damn nerve.
I'm not making excuses for anyone. I'm explaining exactly what you yourself have just said. That most male rapes involving pure physical force are rare for the reasons I stated above, and you all but agreed with. Quit spinning things I say so you can accuse me of being some sorta apologist or something. It's stupid, and so very annoying.
Let's also not forget that human resources staff are there to protect the company, not the employees. In sexual harassment (and other) cases, HR staff will do whatever makes the problem go away for the company, not the employees.
So why bring up how women rape men at all, they were raped, end of discussion!!! You are debating about how you are sceptical of the CDC numbers and what a real male rape victim is. If this was about female rape and people where asking,"but what was she wearing ", I would call them out just as much. Saying how did a little woman rape a big man is just as bad as having a saying about what she was wearing.
First, the ratio's are prima facia evidence of gender bias.
Second, the original data can be found at this link, so you can knock yourself out to investigate rather than hand-waving. The data show that the rate of expansion is broadly similar between men and women, as judged by % change in the undergraduate degrees awarded in a given year compared to the previous year. However, in terms of absolute numbers, this means that when the field expands (as judged by an increase in all computer science undergraduate degrees), the proportion of women decreases since the baseline number of men is higher (just thought I'd explain that property of ratios to you). If this continues, the growth in the number of male degrees will so far outstrip any growth in absolute female degree numbers, the proportion of women getting undergraduate computer science undergraduate degrees will approach 0%. The field is caught in an self-reinforcing cycle that is squeezing women out. That's just simple mathematics. I hope you understand. At a social science level, this pattern arises when people in a field prefer to work with people like them, in this case, men preferring to work with men.
Third, in 1982-1983, 15,641 men received undergraduate computer science degrees and by 2011 this number had grown to 38,773. The comparable numbers for women are 8,924 for 1982-1983 and 8,611 in 2011-2012. Perhaps not the large scale exodus that for which you requested evidence, but it does indicate that growth in undergraduate computer science degrees has stagnated for women while things have been charging ahead for men. I wonder why.
Fourth, there were some years in which the numbers of undergraduate degrees were lower than the previous year as the field contracted, presumably due to economic downturns. Three years in the database exhibited a yearly reduction of male undergraduate degrees by 10% (the three worst years for males). The corresponding reduction for women are 19%, 16%, and 18%. Thus, there is a tendency for disproportionately greater reduction in degrees for women when the field contracts.
So... you think this is a perfect picture of gender equality in a field or what?
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According to the Pew Research Center the majority of men don't care who they work with according to gender.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/16/who-men-and-women-prefer-as-their-co-workers/
The sample was not specific to workers in computer science. This is a problem unique to computer science among STEM fields.
Um, I think you are misunderstanding the comment. In this example, the person doing the punching is the rapist, and he/she is using the threat of physical violence to get the victim to comply.
Doesn't say a word about the victim's response.
Except for all the ways they are treated much better, here in the first world.
In the context of the exchange citizen zen was confused about what constituted rape, it started with.
I explained it was
This can be the same for women if you replace envelopment with penetrate.
this the response from Citizenzen was
Since when does the definition of rape require force to be used? Is force required for a women to be raped? No rape is when someone has sex with you against their will. A woman or man who does not fight back will not require anymore force than a normal sexual encounter.
We always hear that in a rape there is very little evidence and that is why the conviction rates are so low, probably 1-2% of reported rapes end in convictions. so in 98% there was not enough evidence. Are we to not believe these other cases since there is little to no evidence that a rape occurred.
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Child custody, college admissions, scholarship funding, criminal sentencing, criminal prosecutions, alimony payments, government contract awards, medical research spending, "diversity" hiring programs, etc... Women live longer, are 20 times less likely to die on the job, and over their lifespans receive more benefits from Medicare, Medicaid, and social security... Women also don't have to register with selective service, and the ones who do serve compete with men for promotions while having lower standards... Nope, sucks to be a woman in the USA...
except of course when you're taking education, nursing, psychiatry, social work, etc...
You forgot the laws that protect the genitals of baby girls and not those of boys and there are also the instances where male child rape victims have been forced to pay child support to their rapist.
It would be prima facia evidence of a gender imbalance. The fact that women live longer than men would not be prima facia evidence that the healthcare system discriminates against men, nor would ratio of nursing graduates be prima facia evidence of a gender bias.
It's always interesting when these guys say "just child custody" too. As a parent I can't imagine a more important right, right after the right to life, than the right to access to your children...
Rape does not "require force to be used."
It's similar to stand your ground laws.
You merely need to reasonably believe that your health and safety is at risk.
You said the magic word. Evidence consists of arrests and trials.
Let's compare the number of arrests and trials in female on male rape cases.
I highly doubt those numbers would favor your argument.
Haha...always a disregard to the data that shows quite to the contrary. We already explained several times the spike in computer science by women. Perhaps you can tell us why this is such a unique problem among STEM fields compared to the other scientific fields dominated by men. Other then the spike itself and why men not wanting to work with women in computer science when evidence show the opposite?