Apple Releases New iMacs

[samaaron]

Display Response

I actually do turn off my imac display if I want to use it as a mirror.


But you see, the macbook pro is different, the glossy screen is part of the design because the glass is whats making the glossiness. They can't make anti-glare glass, but the screen on the MacBook Pro is different.

There are a number of other LCD manufacturers including Apple that make non-glossy displays.

 

[Anaxarxes]

There are a number of other LCD manufacturers including Apple that make non-glossy displays.

I guess the point is; How can the LCD be non-glossy if there is a glass in front to the screen?

 

[bluedoggiant]

So should I get the 500Gb one, or is it different from yours?

Meh, who knows, my friend's 500GB in his 2.8 is dreadfully slow, its a WD, mine, using up more space, from Seagate, is miles faster. And the seagate uses perpendicular recording, the WD 500gb- dont have that, only the 750gb and 1TB. So I really don't know, its a matter of luck.

There are a number of other LCD manufacturers including Apple that make non-glossy displays.

Look below:

I guess the point is; How can the LCD be non-glossy if there is a glass in front to the screen?

Exactly, my point, unless they take out the glass, even the LCD is glossy, though they can make it ant-glare when u take off the glass, its still friggin ugly...trust me, ive been there.

 

[diamond.g]

I don't think apple overclocked it, that seems very unlikely, and un--like. It's just a custom from intel, we all know by now the once rivals are very good friends now.

Your right Apple didn't overclock the NB, Intel did .

 

[k2spitfire88]

Your right Apple didn't overclock the NB, Intel did .

on the other iMac thread, someone was saying that it wasnt overclocked, that these are basically the processors from montevina in a santa rosa chipset (if i remember correctly), and that it gets hotter than montevina will, but that isnt an issue because it's a desktop. please let me know if I'm wrong.

 

[4God]

Sorry if this has been asked (and answered) already (wasn't going to read all 33 pages), but do these new iMacs stop at SSE3 or do they now have SSE4 instructions?

 

[Anaxarxes]

Sorry if this has been asked (and answered) already (wasn't going to read all 33 pages), but do these new iMacs stop at SSE3 or do they now have SSE4 instructions?

Yes, they do have SSE4, it's something that 45nm Core architecture supports.

 

[codalo]

non glossy screens

it is possible to put a anti-reflective coating on glass. its done all the time for high end optics like binoculars & telescopes or take a look at Maui Jim sunglasses

 

[Anaxarxes]

it is possible to put a anti-reflective coating on glass. its done all the time for high end optics like binoculars & telescopes or take a look at Maui Jim sunglasses

I'm pretty sure that iMac's glass does have an anti-reflective coating. To be completely anti-reflective is not very easy to archive and probably expensive.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Anti-reflective_coating_comparison.jpg

 

[tenks]

It's still a bit vague about Nehalem platform support.

The roadmap shows Nehalem arriving before Calpella - so how will Intel sell chips without a chipset?

Note this Wikipedia line:

"The code-name Calpella refers to the sixth-generation Centrino platform; it will be competing with AMD Fusion platform. It will premiere in Q2 2009 with the second iteration of Nehalem processors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevina#Montevina_platform_.282008.29

If Calpella shows up with the second iteration of Nehalem, what chipset supports the first batch?

Note this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture)

"Due to its early release and market segment, Intel stated at IDF that only the high-end Bloomfields may have an integrated memory controller, leaving the "lower" end ones without it (and probably on the "old" socket 775)[9], however other sources have said that all Nehalem variants will have an integrated memory controller."

You're quoting Wikipedia when discussing CPU stuff? Are you serious? Get a hold of any Intel roadmap and it will spell it all out for you. Mobile Nehalem's haven't been discussed very much. Even the chipset for the desktop, Tylersburg hasn't been talked about too much in detail. All will unveiled at Fall IDF in SF when Intel shows off final Nehalem silicon...Calpella is basically Mobile Nehalem with an integrated GPU. After AMD bought ATI, AMD was touting fusion as a CPU+CPU on one package. Calpella is intel's answer to that, mobile nahelem CPU core + GPU on die. I think you're focusing to much on codenames man, but maybe this will help

- 2nd gen Centrino = Montevina (which still uses Core 2 Micoarch)
this will be out and used for awhile, at least until q1 09 right when Mobile Nehalam is coming out
- Nehalem comes out this fall, late winter. It comes out in Xeon and Desktop parts first with the mobile parts falling in line for q1/q2 right when Calpella is expected to come out.

If you look at any diagram of what mobile Nehalem, although sparse in detail, looks like, its again the CPU+GPU design. Use your duductions skills to conclude mobile nehalem = calpella. Calpella is the platform name btw, not the chip, just like Montevina is the platform name and uses the penryn chip.

Hope this helps man!

 

[nfn]

Hi,

What's the distance you recommend to work with the 24" model?
I'm between the 20" and 24" ... ? usually work from 0,5 cm upwards.

For an average user to use mail, web, image editing and home movies is there any visible difference between the lcd from the 20" (TN) and the lcd from the 24"?

 

[PCMacUser]

This seems like a decent update. It would still be nice if Apple released a system that had desktop-level hardware though, rather than laptop and server based.

The increase in the iMac's FSB (1066) and DDR (800) speeds is made less sweet by the fact that many consumer-level PC desktops run at 1333 and 800/1066 respectively, and have been doing so since last year.

 

[Anaxarxes]

Calpella is basically Mobile Nehalem with an integrated GPU.

Calpella is the platform name btw, not the chip, just like Montevina is the platform name and uses the penryn chip.

Calpella is not a CPU, it's codename of the platform, successor to Montevina platform as you said. The means it's a combination of a new NB, CPU and Wireless Network/WiMAX card.

Nehalem is the codename of the architecture, first mobile batch of the CPUs based on this architecture are Clarksfield (Quad-Core) and Auburnsdale (Dual core). Auburnsdale is expected to have an on-die-GPU.

 

[k2spitfire88]

Nehalem is the codename of the architecture, first mobile batch of the CPUs based on this architecture are Clarksfield (Quad-Core) and Auburnsdale (Dual core). Auburnsdale is expected to have an on-die-GPU.

Will the MB or MBP's get either clarksfield or auburnsdale?

 

[cecilworsley]

Could this be a downgrade

hello this is Cecil here. I was looking at the apple store at the iMacs and they have taken out the quad core machine. Yes there is a dual core with 3.06 GHz and a little faster FSB. But the old quad had 4 cores at 2.8 GHz and a little slower FSB. I dont know about yall but if i got the iMac the quad is what i would want to have because i use it for video and things along that line. Am i just wrong or not considering some thing let me know. Also who agrees with me?


2.4 GHz MBP Santa Rosa

 

[Anaxarxes]

Will the MB or MBP's get either clarksfield or auburnsdale?

I would only assume that there will be various configurations. But I can say that MCP should get Clarksfield as BTO. And in MB line, I would say that on-die-GPU shpuds promising compared to Intel GMA. This will happen in Q4 2008-Q1 2009

 

[Anaxarxes]

hello this is Cecil here. I was looking at the apple store at the iMacs and they have taken out the quad core machine. Yes there is a dual core with 3.06 GHz and a little faster FSB. But the old quad had 4 cores at 2.8 GHz and a little slower FSB. I dont know about yall but if i got the iMac the quad is what i would want to have because i use it for video and things along that line. Am i just wrong or not considering some thing let me know. Also who agrees with me?


2.4 GHz MBP Santa Rosa

Hey there.

The old iMac 2.8 Extreme did not have a quad core CPU. It was dual-core

 

[Clix Pix]

The only quad core machines to date have been the Mac Pro computers, not the iMacs.

If you want to do serious video editing and such, you need to be looking at the Mac Pro, not the iMacs.

 

[minik]

Meh, who knows, my friend's 500GB in his 2.8 is dreadfully slow, its a WD, mine, using up more space, from Seagate, is miles faster. And the seagate uses perpendicular recording, the WD 500gb- dont have that, only the 750gb and 1TB. So I really don't know, its a matter of luck.
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WD Caviar SE16

Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (PMR) - The latest generation of WD Caviar SE16 drives employs PMR technology to achieve even greater areal density.
hmm

 

[k2spitfire88]

The only quad core machines to date have been the Mac Pro computers, not the iMacs.

If you want to do serious video editing and such, you need to be looking at the Mac Pro, not the iMacs.

however, i think the new iMacs will be quad core, because the new processors support a quad core mobile chip

 

[cherry su]

Some of them. Some of the CPUs sound cool. I like my Woodcrest.

You have a Mac Pro? Did you upgrade to 8800GT?

 

[cherry su]

I am curious why Apple did not give you the option of a non-glossy screen, that is what prevented me from buying the previous version.

Use some suction cups and remove the glass. The actual panel is matte.

 

[bluedoggiant]

WD Caviar SE16

Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (PMR) - The latest generation of WD Caviar SE16 drives employs PMR technology to achieve even greater areal density.
hmm

It was only a month ago where it was only available on 750GB+.

 

[samanthas]

Use some suction cups and remove the glass. The actual panel is matte.

No. The actual panel is glossy.

 

[CWallace]

It's still a bit vague about Nehalem platform support.

If Calpella shows up with the second iteration of Nehalem, what chipset supports the first batch?

Based on the Intel roadmap slides I have seen, the initial Nehalem CPUs (codename "Gainestown") will be designed for workstations and servers and will ship in late 2008. The chipset has the codename of "Tylersburg" and the whole platform (CPU+chipset) has the codename "Thurley".

I do not know if Apple will bother with Dunnington (a six-core CPU resembling three merged 45 nm dual-core Wolfdale dies) on the Mac Pro or if they will just go straight to "Thurley". I am hoping for the latter because I want a Mac Pro, but only once it goes to "Thurley".