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Apple Releases New MacBook Pros with Santa Rosa
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Man this has me tingling all over! too bad i'm out of the country til august so i have to wait before purchasing one 
oh well, hopefully by then, they'll have a rev b out!
one question: the apple page says it has 2GB 667MHz memory... but can it handle 800MHz memory?? cuz that's what i intend to put on there... and will it make a difference??
oh well, hopefully by then, they'll have a rev b out!one question: the apple page says it has 2GB 667MHz memory... but can it handle 800MHz memory?? cuz that's what i intend to put on there... and will it make a difference??
Robson is dirt cheap, and effective. When used together with a hybrid drive the resulting performance is greater than using the hybrid drive alone.
There are very few cases in which adding a larger cache is going to hurt performance. Typically, the larger the cache the more performance. Using a extremely inexpensive (~$50) Robson cache in addition to a hybrid drive would increase overall system performance.
I am stoked! Just sold my iMac in prep for this so now just have to sell my CD MacBook.
Better spec, better graphics, bigger hdd, more ram, LED and cheaper than before! I'm welll chuffed, will be getting me the base MBP with 160Gb 5400rpm HDD soon. Oh and make is Glossy
Better spec, better graphics, bigger hdd, more ram, LED and cheaper than before! I'm welll chuffed, will be getting me the base MBP with 160Gb 5400rpm HDD soon. Oh and make is Glossy
Why do people keep doubting the the 15 inch has the LED display. It says clearly on Apples site that they do!
That's the point of my earlier post... their website says VERY little about the LED backlit displays. It's almost as if they are avoiding it.
someone mentioned it was most likely because the 17" doesn't have it and why hype LED displays when one of their products doesn't have it. I buy that argument.
No, no. I'm saying that they WOULD for a 13.3" MBP screen. If they were to do this, they would cut weight from the unit, just like the 15.4" MBP.
-Clive
I know (which is what I keep saying).
Well oddly enough everything does have a framerate. I was talking about how big the framebuffer is for any video drawn. Apple made all this bruhaha about drawing everything on the videocard so I would figure the more video memory you have the smoother things can be drawn. There is no need to put windows in a back buffer, they can all be kept in video memory. To the GPU things on screen are textures, every item on the screen takes memory. It is faster to leave what a window looks like (the texture) in Video Memory than it is to have to constantly draw it. That allows fo all the nifty effects that every one is used to. It is also why OSX feels faster than Windows (using the old GDI).
I agree completly. I (and I am sure most of you) are happy with this update. It takes the sting out of what they did with the Macbook update. I would have figured that Apple would have moved up to more video memory along with all the other great updates.
I'm really torn between the middle 15" and the 17" HD.
I'm sure the 8600M GT will drive the 17" HD in Mac OSX fine, but I'm worried about 3d apps and a game or two at 1920x1200. The other thing is it will use more power and it's not LED. It will do HD, but only via files, the DVD drive in the MBP is not HD or Blu-Ray. iTunes doesn't have HD stuff, yet.
On the other hand the 15.4" LED might be nice, I have never seen one in person, plus the 8600m GT will rock at 1440 resolution without having to switch to non-native modes.
I have a Dell XPS 1, a big clunker, but Dell put a 1920x1200 15.4" display on it but with a ATI Mobility 9800. It works fine in Windows XP and Vista for that matter on the Desktop, but you can't run any games at 1920x1200, even at 1650x1050 it's sluggish with some games. I'm a bit wary of a 256 meg card on a 1920x1200 display.
I can't decide!
I'm sure the 8600M GT will drive the 17" HD in Mac OSX fine, but I'm worried about 3d apps and a game or two at 1920x1200. The other thing is it will use more power and it's not LED. It will do HD, but only via files, the DVD drive in the MBP is not HD or Blu-Ray. iTunes doesn't have HD stuff, yet.
On the other hand the 15.4" LED might be nice, I have never seen one in person, plus the 8600m GT will rock at 1440 resolution without having to switch to non-native modes.
I have a Dell XPS 1, a big clunker, but Dell put a 1920x1200 15.4" display on it but with a ATI Mobility 9800. It works fine in Windows XP and Vista for that matter on the Desktop, but you can't run any games at 1920x1200, even at 1650x1050 it's sluggish with some games. I'm a bit wary of a 256 meg card on a 1920x1200 display.
I can't decide!
Sure in general. But you've got to look at 2 things.
1) It's a mobile card - it won't ever really compete with the 2-slot monstrosities that you can fit into a full-tower chasis (All GFX Cards > Mobile GFX Cards)
2) It's a Mac card - so pare down the already limited selection of mobile cards
(Mobile GFX Cards > Mac GFX Cards)
If you look at it that way, you're getting one of the top of the line cards.
And to be honest, although I was expecting a DX 10 capable card, I wasn't even expecting the 8600 if Apple went NVidia, but rather the 8400. And let's be honest, how many "serious gamers" would use a laptop anyway, let alone an Apple? I say yay for UT3, because I play very few games anyway, but I'd like to at least try it out. I'd be happy to play it on a 15" 1440x900 screen with ~30-60 FPS (under windows, of course).
Oops...probably, but not as much, as only 13" of screen is made lighter, not 15"
Newbie HELP --Which HDD? Also, Apple Stores in Dallas have in stock.....
My first post on MacRumors, so please be kind
1. The two Apple Stores in Dallas (Northpark and Knox) have the standard config 15.4 2.2 and 2.4 with the 160gb 5400 in stock. They can upgrade memory only. Both the Glossy and Matte are LED on the 15.4. They don't have any 17" in stock.
2. I've trolled this entire thread and read the posts regarding HDD and speed. I really don't want to wait 4-6 wks more for the 7200rpm, but I notice a lot of people are doing so. The logic of the arguments (perpendicular architecture and larger capacity with both filling from outside in) seem to imply that the 200GB 4200 with max'd out RAM would be the best way to go.
For those of you getting the 7200rpm, could you explain your rationale to me (this is not to start an argument, just want to know if there is a logic making the 4-6 week wait worthwhile).
3. Another dumb question -- the 17" HD display has me mildly tempted, but I figure I can hook up a nicer larger HD display later to the 15.4", and the 256mg card ought to run that fine, right?
4. Out of the box, if I get a 15.4" 2.4 with no additional software, can I do some basic work importing video of my infant son off my Sony Mini DV handycam (basically, importing it and emailing it as a QuickTime file)?
Thanks! Can't wait to be a Mac user again (in college, Centris 610!)
My first post on MacRumors, so please be kind
1. The two Apple Stores in Dallas (Northpark and Knox) have the standard config 15.4 2.2 and 2.4 with the 160gb 5400 in stock. They can upgrade memory only. Both the Glossy and Matte are LED on the 15.4. They don't have any 17" in stock.
2. I've trolled this entire thread and read the posts regarding HDD and speed. I really don't want to wait 4-6 wks more for the 7200rpm, but I notice a lot of people are doing so. The logic of the arguments (perpendicular architecture and larger capacity with both filling from outside in) seem to imply that the 200GB 4200 with max'd out RAM would be the best way to go.
For those of you getting the 7200rpm, could you explain your rationale to me (this is not to start an argument, just want to know if there is a logic making the 4-6 week wait worthwhile).
3. Another dumb question -- the 17" HD display has me mildly tempted, but I figure I can hook up a nicer larger HD display later to the 15.4", and the 256mg card ought to run that fine, right?
4. Out of the box, if I get a 15.4" 2.4 with no additional software, can I do some basic work importing video of my infant son off my Sony Mini DV handycam (basically, importing it and emailing it as a QuickTime file)?
Thanks! Can't wait to be a Mac user again (in college, Centris 610!)
Oh...
Everything else was great short of the video RAM.
I'm not a serious gamer. But I know when I hit a texture limit in games that it was the video RAM. I can turn up the resolution and even anti-aliasing just fine on an overclocked Mobility X1600!Sure in general. But you've got to look at 2 things.
1) It's a mobile card - it won't ever really compete with the 2-slot monstrosities that you can fit into a full-tower chasis (All GFX Cards > Mobile GFX Cards)
2) It's a Mac card - so pare down the already limited selection of mobile cards
(Mobile GFX Cards > Mac GFX Cards)
If you look at it that way, you're getting one of the top of the line cards.
And let's be honest, how many "serious gamers" would use a laptop anyway, let alone an Apple? I say yay for UT3, because I play very few games anyway, but I'd like to at least try it out. I'd be happy to play it on a 15" 1440x900 screen with ~30-60 FPS (under windows, of course).
Where is the Robinson technology?
I'm glad for the MBP update, but not fully Santa Rosa plateform yet!
Where is the Flash or Hybrid Harddisk????
Can't Apple make that too? some others manufacturers already did that.
How about carbon fibre case??
I am please, but expect more.
I'm glad for the MBP update, but not fully Santa Rosa plateform yet! Where is the Flash or Hybrid Harddisk????
Can't Apple make that too? some others manufacturers already did that.
How about carbon fibre case??
I am please, but expect more.
Wait, what is your basis for saying the 8600M GT is a pretty weak card? It's pretty much the top of the line card that can be found in a 15" notebook. And most of the other notebooks it can be found in, like the Asus G1S, are considerably thicker and heavier.
It is a great performing card, and pretty much the top of the line in a 15" notebook. If your point is just that it isn't as powerful as, say, the upcoming 8800M, then sure, but no-one is going to make a 15" gaming laptop with that GPU in it.... it will be relegated to 17-20" laptops.
Where is the Flash or Hybrid Harddisk????
Can't Apple make that too? some others manufacturers already did that.
How about carbon fibre case??
I am please, but expect more.
I think I said that to the last girl I dated.
Actually, that's not quite true. Authorized Apple Dealers have a special Apple Reseller Store online they can connect to. There they can build-to-order a machine for you and have it shipped to their store to sell to you.
Where is the Flash or Hybrid Harddisk????
Can't Apple make that too? some others manufacturers already did that.
How about carbon fibre case??
I am please, but expect more.
Robson, aka Intel Turbo Memory, is an optional feature - it doesn't mean a laptop without it isn't "fully Santa Rosa".
As it is, Intel Turbo Memory looks to be kind of a turkey anyway:
http://news.com.com/HP+says+no+to+Intels+Turbo+Memory/2100-1004_3-6188531.html?tag=nefd.top
will trade my ati 1600 for the geforce 8600
I think´s it´s a nice upgrade.
I am pretty happy with my mbp c2d 2.33, ati 1600, though I would dig the
new grafics card, especially for gaming.
Is it possible to change a grafics card in the mbp? If you send it to apple or something like that?
I think´s it´s a nice upgrade.
I am pretty happy with my mbp c2d 2.33, ati 1600, though I would dig the
new grafics card, especially for gaming.
Is it possible to change a grafics card in the mbp? If you send it to apple or something like that?
Could someone please put a link up here, with the specs on the LED screen? Or rather the evidence that they are in these new machines? I still cannot see any mentioning on apple.com
They say it is TFT, what is the difference in TFT and LED? Should it not just be LED?
Does anyone have a before and after shot of the specs?
They say it is TFT, what is the difference in TFT and LED? Should it not just be LED?
Does anyone have a before and after shot of the specs?
The processor's bus speed = 800Mhz. RAM speed = 667MHz.
If you can find DDR2 800MHz RAM of the correct CAS/voltage spec you probably could get it to work. But even if it did work, it wouldn't run any faster than 667Mhz. You'd be wasting your money, in other words.