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Apple Releases New MacBook Pros with Santa Rosa

Bear said:
Finally, a laptop configuration from Apple that I won't need to add anything to for it to be useful to me. Of course, I'm not quite ready to upgrade from my Powerbook yet. The only question is to go with the default disk, or upgrade to the 7200 RPM disk.
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Upgrade! I have had excellent experience with my Hitachi 7k60 drive since July-2003 and can wholeheartedly recommend fast hard drive for anyone. In fact, practically everyone using my laptop have been blown away with the speed, which is mainly because I have upgraded the slowest part in the system.

Do it! Your laptop is as fast as its hard drive. Faster CPU/GPU can do nothing if they're not fed with data from the relatively slow storage. Upgrade the storage and your system has more data to crunch...
 
jnyepu said:
2. I've trolled this entire thread and read the posts regarding HDD and speed. I really don't want to wait 4-6 wks more for the 7200rpm, but I notice a lot of people are doing so. The logic of the arguments (perpendicular architecture and larger capacity with both filling from outside in) seem to imply that the 200GB 4200 with max'd out RAM would be the best way to go.

For those of you getting the 7200rpm, could you explain your rationale to me (this is not to start an argument, just want to know if there is a logic making the 4-6 week wait worthwhile).
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I have the 7200rpm drive on my MBP. I don't really see how more ram will help. The slower speed the hard drive...well, the slower it is. If you're doing video editing and such, a faster drive is better. I love my 7200.

3. Another dumb question -- the 17" HD display has me mildly tempted, but I figure I can hook up a nicer larger HD display later to the 15.4", and the 256mg card ought to run that fine, right?
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Yeah, it should be fine. Unless you're a power user (heavy video editing, etc.).

4. Out of the box, if I get a 15.4" 2.4 with no additional software, can I do some basic work importing video of my infant son off my Sony Mini DV handycam (basically, importing it and emailing it as a QuickTime file)?
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Yep. The machine will come with iLife, of which iMovie is a part. Perfect for doing just what you mention.
 
glygly said:
Benchmarks? Where? How do they compare to the older 2.33ghz ? Thanks. :)
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if this were a significant update they wouldn't be comparing it to a 2.16 core duo to get a 55% boost on some applications. They'd compare it to a 2.33 c2d
 
Lyra said:
Could someone please put a link up here, with the specs on the LED screen? Or rather the evidence that they are in these new machines? I still cannot see any mentioning on apple.com

They say it is TFT, what is the difference in TFT and LED? Should it not just be LED?

:confused:

Does anyone have a before and after shot of the specs?
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Dude, it's in the stinking press release and on their product page at http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
 
Here in West Des Moines the Apple Store has plenty of the 15.4's in stock, but they do not have any 17's.

I am going to pick up the new base model MBP a little later. :)
 
mags631 said:
And why doesn't that damn tab key order a Tab?
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Now why didn't I think of that??? Most Excellent!

I'm happy about the changes. About what I expected. The days of my PowerBook are drawing to a close...so in another 8 weeks some refurbs of these ought to be available! :D
 
gnasher729 said:
It isn't faster because the data density is lower, so even though the platter rotates quicker, the 7200 RPM disks read fewer bytes per round.
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If the rotational speed is higher, it means that the disk has a possibility to read more blocks per second (transfer rate) and that the disk has a possibility to find the block it needs faster (seek time). That's it.

Now the density means that one round contains more blocks. That also means that the disk with higher density has a possibility to read more blocks per second, but on the other hand higher density doesn't mean lower seek times.

So, transfer-rate-wise, 5400rpm disk with higher density can be on par with 7200rpm disk with lower density. But seek-time-wise, the same 7200rpm can be a whole lot faster and therefore "feel" a lot better.

In real world; I believe 5400rpm 160GB drive can be very close to performance level of 7200rpm 100GB drive. But as soon as you put in a 7200rpm 160GB drive, the game is over — there's just no comparison.
 
The iMacs used have the same graphics card as the MBP. Hopefully the new iMacs will also use the 8600GT!
 
I just ordered one!

I just ordered one. I've waited months for this. My other laptop was only a year old but I couldn't give up the temptation :)
Where are most people buying them from? I know many places like Amazon, etc. don't get them this fast. I have a Apple Business Agent I deal with. Since you buy directly from the store through them you get them fast through the Apple store. How many others use Apple Business Agents on here? What I like about this Agent is if you contact him first before ordering often he can throw something in extra for free. Sometimes it's been things such as software such as Parallels, books on Mac OS X, even in one case extra memory. I just negotiate every purchase before I order. What are other people's experience with Apple Business Agents on here? If you are interested I use his store at www.avcconsulting.info/applestore. His web site is www.avcconsulting.info and I think his email is mweigl@avcconsulting.info
 
Good updates today. My one and only qualm with today is that we are still using the same basic shell that we have seen for the last 4-5 years. Yes I know that they are thinner than the first PowerBooks that sported the brushed metal look, but come on.... If you didn't know to look for the iSight camera, you wouldn't know if you were looking at some slow G4 or the newer Intels from a very short distance.

I can't wait to see a new shell for this and the iMac and especially the Mac Pro. I get more excited from a new form factor than I do new specs.
 
gnasher729 said:
The processor has nothing to do with Santa Rosa at all. It is absolutely the same processor.

The old MBPs had a motherboard running at 166 MHz, with the frontside bus running at 4 x motherboard speed = 666 MHz. The processor _must_ be some multiple of the motherboard speed, either 12 x 166 MHz = 2 GHz, or 13 x 166 MHz = 2.16 GHz, or 14 x 166 MHz = 2.33 GHz.

The new MBPs have a motherboard running at 200 MHz, with the frontside bus running at 4 x motherboard speed = 800 MHz. The processor _must_ be some multiple of the motherboard speed, so it cannot possibly run at 2.16 or 2.33 GHz. They run at 11 x 200 MHz = 2.2 GHz or 12 x 200 MHz = 2.4 GHz.

It is the same processor, except that Intel has tested them at 2.2 and 2.4 GHz - the old ones may have been tested at that speed as well.
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Excellent post! Thank you. I had no idea that the motherboard speed was still at 166MHz on the MBP's before today. Wow. That is the same speed as my G4. Yes, the FSB and CPU speeds are drastically different of course...
 
Where's the 3G & 4G on the logic board?

Yawn! Where's the 3G & 4G wireless on the logic board? Other PC vendors have integrated HSDPA, WiMax, EV-DO, and Apple is the laggard with absolutely nothing available build-to-order! :( How sad, Apple should be leading, but it is way behind -- business users need this. And why is full 1080P (1920x1080) only available on the biggest PowerBook? Dell has smaller ones w/this resolution, where are the Blue-Ray drives and flash RAM to help sleep wakeup and boot times?! I had hoped for more innovation this round, but cannot find it.

Come on Apple, don't turn into a Palm with their way slow Treo updates and ridiculous Foleo...
 
I am just wondering, Mac Book Pros got the LED but only the 15" model but what about the Mac Books. To me it seems if they want to go green wont majority of the laptop lines be greener with these updates?

Also is it realistic to wait for Mac Book LED light?
 
Cool, with respect to the 8600M, I just read that it's possible to write other mini applications that'll run on the GPU like physics processing for games.

Sweet.
 
By the way what is this new Chat Now feature on the store menu????

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liberty4all said:
Yawn! Where's the 3G & 4G wireless on the logic board? Other PC vendors have integrated HSDPA, WiMax, EV-DO, and Apple is the laggard with absolutely nothing available build-to-order! :( How sad, Apple should be leading, but it is way behind -- business users need this. And why is full 1080P (1920x1080) only available on the biggest PowerBook? Dell has smaller ones w/this resolution, where are the Blue-Ray drives and flash RAM to help sleep wakeup and boot times?! I had hoped for more innovation this round, but cannot find it.

Come on Apple, don't turn into a Palm with their way slow Treo updates and ridiculous Foleo...
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I agree with some of your post -- but faster wake up times? even my 4+ year old iBook wakes faster then today's winboxes?
 
liberty4all said:
Yawn! Where's the 3G & 4G wireless on the logic board? Other PC vendors have integrated HSDPA, WiMax, EV-DO, and Apple is the laggard with absolutely nothing available build-to-order! :( How sad, Apple should be leading, but it is way behind -- business users need this. And why is full 1080P (1920x1080) only available on the biggest PowerBook? Dell has smaller ones w/this resolution, where are the Blue-Ray drives and flash RAM to help sleep wakeup and boot times?! I had hoped for more innovation this round, but cannot find it.

Come on Apple, don't turn into a Palm with their way slow Treo updates and ridiculous Foleo...
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Ignorance used to be bliss.
 
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