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What about a HiRes screen for the 15"?

Now this would be an awesome BTO option - a higher resolution screen for the 15" MBP. Say 1680 x 1050 on the 15" panel. That would be outstanding!!!

What do y'all think?
 
(not many people talkin about the HDef screens)

That is because the 17" MBP are not in stores yet and none have shipped to people who have ordered them.

All of the apple stores that I have called have stated that the HD screen is BTO only and will NOT be seen in stores (mistake in my opinion).

Hickman
 
Now this would be an awesome BTO option - a higher resolution screen for the 15" MBP. Say 1680 x 1050 on the 15" panel. That would be outstanding!!!

What do y'all think?

I dunno why they didnt implement it.

IBM/Lenovos been shipping their Thinkpads with 15.4" widescreen 1680x1050 panels since Jan.
 
interesting... does that mean these new 17" MBP's (1680 and 1920HD) would likely have the same generation screen technology. I do 3d rendering and pro imaging, and this is the first i've heard about this. Maybe LED is the go.

(not many people talkin about the HDef screens)

Well, they won't have the LED-backlighting at least.... I'd have to see the new 17" screens in person though before making a statement about any uneven brightness issues, etc. The issue I had was with the old 15" machines.

It might still be a while before there is an LED-backlit 17" model. As it is, Apple is the first company to ship a 15.4" LED backlit screen. Prior to this, they'd been limited to 11 and 13" machines (and at that, they were usually exclusively found on expensive and premium machines well above $2000 like the Sony TX and the premium Sony SZ models).

I dunno why they didnt implement it.

IBM/Lenovos been shipping their Thinkpads with 15.4" widescreen 1680x1050 panels since Jan.

True, although I don't think that's an option yet on the T61, is it?

As it is, ThinkPads seem to be sort of notorious for dimmer screens as well.

I imagine Apple is still waiting until resolution independence becomes standard before bumping the res up beyond 1440x900 on the 15.4" machines.
 
Well, they won't have the LED-backlighting at least.... I'd have to see the new 17" screens in person though before making a statement about any uneven brightness issues, etc. The issue I had was with the old 15" machines.

was the unevenness there from the start, or did it develop over time?
 
How is the 17" for using on your lap on the couch? Does it run warmer or cooler than a 15"?

I had a 15" CD MBP and recently upgraded to a 17" C2D MBP. The 17" runs WAY cooler. The 15" would get so hot I couldn't bear it on my lap...had to put a cooling plate under it. I barely notice that the 17" is warm.

Now part of this at least must be due to the fact that I had a 100GB/7200RPM drive in the smaller MBP and have a 160GB/5400RPM in my current 17".

I have no complaints about the display myself. Both of my MBPs looked great to these eyes--but then the laptop I had before then was a Pismo Firewire...so anything would likely look good in comparison! Besides, my laptop spends most of the time hooked to a 30" ACD.
 
To reply to a previous post.

NVidia do not write the drivers for the MBP. Apple do that themselves. They still have a mentality of Not Invented Here. No doubt this machine will scream when running the official NVidia drivers on XP or Vista, but will still be a steaming pile of sh** with the Apple drivers until Apple really concentrate on trying to gleam every ounce of performance from the GPUs.
 
Can anyone give me some advise?

I have made the decision to go mac but I can't decide whether to have a top end macbook with 2gb ram or have a new macbook pro.

I will be using the mac mainly for music production with the likes of Ableton Live, garageband and logic pro.

Is the macbook pro a bit over kill for what I'd be using it for or would there be a big difference in performance.

Any advise would be gratefully appreciated.
 
was the unevenness there from the start, or did it develop over time?

From the start.

At least in my case though, I should probably clarify what the problem was. In normal use (word processing, web browsing, etc.) it was almost not noticeable. But if I did look closely, I could tell that the right side of the screen was darker than the left.

The only way to see this clearly though was by placing a solid color across the entire screen...... i.e. when the entire screen was filled with a solid gray color, it was very obvious.

I'm also still not totally sure the problem was necessarily uneven backlighting as much as it was something else. The reason I say this is that if I looked at the lower right hand (darker) corner of the screen straight on, it appeared just as bright as other parts of the screen. So it was almost more like a viewing angle issue or something.

Not every MBP owner has complained about this though, so I don't think it is noticeable by everyone or bothers everyone. It might not even affect all MBP screens.

Can anyone give me some advise?

I have made the decision to go mac but I can't decide whether to have a top end macbook with 2gb ram or have a new macbook pro.

I will be using the mac mainly for music production with the likes of Ableton Live, garageband and logic pro.

Is the macbook pro a bit over kill for what I'd be using it for or would there be a big difference in performance.

Any advise would be gratefully appreciated.

I think for programs like Ableton and Logic Pro, the extra screen real estate on the 15.4" MBP might be worth it.
 
Can anyone give me some advise?

I have made the decision to go mac but I can't decide whether to have a top end macbook with 2gb ram or have a new macbook pro.

I will be using the mac mainly for music production with the likes of Ableton Live, garageband and logic pro.

Is the macbook pro a bit over kill for what I'd be using it for or would there be a big difference in performance.

Any advise would be gratefully appreciated.

I use a macbook (black 2GHz, C2D) for Ableton Live (in fact it's my main app). I have no problems at all with the machine.

I'd say you don't really need the extra graphics capability of the MBP for the app that's for sure.

More screen is always nice but it does come at the expense of portability. As I DJ with mine it needs to fit in cramped DJ booths. The macbook is not a bad size for that.

I'm still lusting after a small MBP though (backlit keyboard, nicer build), but I wouldn't say it's essential to get a pro by any means. If you'd like to save money go for the macbook.
 
That's just what I intend on using it for. The backlit keys would be great but it does come at a pretty hefty price.

Can I ask you what midi controller and sound interface you use?

I am considering the trigger finger, padkontrol and akai mpd 24, the padkontrol looks nice but the others come with more sliders and knobs which are bound to come in handy when mixing.
 
Can I ask you what midi controller and sound interface you use?

Sure. I have two Faderfoxes (LV1, LD2) and for audio I use an Echo Audiofire2.

I'm super happy with all three units. I get none of that "hands off" feeling that software induces when compared to turntables/mixer. Very pleased indeed.
 
Are they any good?

I have seen them but thought they looked a bit fiddley from the pictures i saw on the net.

I have been considering the trigger finger, padkontrol and akai mpd 24, the padkontrol looks nice but the others come with more sliders and knobs which are bound to come in handy when mixing.
 
Are they any good?

I have seen them but thought they looked a bit fiddley from the pictures i saw on the net.

They are insanely good. They are small but two strapped together makes for a super-powerful and compact combo.

The build quality for the price is amazing too.

I have been considering the trigger finger, padkontrol and akai mpd 24, the padkontrol looks nice but the others come with more sliders and knobs which are bound to come in handy when mixing.

I've been through an Evolution UC33 (not bad, bit bulky) and a UC17 (again not too bad with careful mapping is pretty useful).

The trigger finger looks quite nice.

Chances are the first one you buy you'll work out what you really need then move on to something else. It pays to keep the first midi controller you get cheap in that case.
 
the only play it would be even useful would be limited to the 17'' b/c of HD. Moreover, the blue ray hd dvd war would really make me reluctant to throw this into my computer. Finally, and most important, do you really need to watch an hd movie on the comp that badly, watch movies as they were meant on big beautiful screens.

perhaps, but some of us have blu-ray machines and it would be excellent to be able to watch when on the road. or more importantly produce and burn hd video to disc.
 
I went at 8 PM tonight to the 5th Ave NYC Apple store. I told them I wanted to buy a new Macbook Pro and did they have any in stock. They asked if I wanted a 15 or 17 inch model. I told them 15 and they said good because they don't have the 17 inch. I spent about 5 minutes going over the options and in particular glossy versus matte (using older Macbook pros as new ones were not on display). Despite some glare concerns, I thought the glossy was brighter with richer color. I asked to buy the 15 inch 2.4 with glossy screen. After all this, they checked and found they don't have any of the glossy models left, only matte. I asked why and was told they had received a "full" shipment of matte units and a "limited" number of glossy units. Needless to say, was very disappointed. They had no idea when they would get more glossy units but was advised to check back periodically, perhaps by next week. Still deciding, but will probably buy glossy off web. Any ideas on why glossy was limited? Expected to sell less? Or, perhaps was more popular and sold more/sold out quicker? So if travelling to NYC store for this, be prepared only 15 inch matte units there as of 8:30PM tonight.

Glossy sucks, you get tons of glare and reflections

Well, you can add me, my wife, my parents, my mother-in-law, and my sister-in law. Actually, come to think of it, I don't know one person who DOES pirate Mac software.

i dont pirate either. it's bs. especially in the gaming market where there are so few sales. we need to build sales so more games are made.

M
 
I'm not saying the high-end is a bad deal (it's not, compared to other laptop offerings), but IMO the low-end is now an excellent deal. :cool:

I'd agree - we've got a 3.5 yr old top end 15" powerbook that cost £2k. A shed load of money, but the amount of use, and being able to use it for a small business and make some extra money has been well worth it.

When it came to replacing it, I'd always thought the old 'get the most you can afford' philosophy is best - but right now (although it'll probably be the end of the year before I've got the cash to upgrade, by which time I'll probably hold out for the next revision), the low end 15" is looking plenty good enough. 120GB is plenty, and I'd be more likely by then to get a USB external drive, and be totally sorted for back ups with that and time machine.

Can't wait tho' - as it's going to be a pretty damn good next to the old PB, especially in the knowledge that by then it'll be around £7-800 cheaper.
 
I know, I'm very late to the party that is this thread :p

Anyway... I kinda wish I had waited to buy a MacBook Pro now - these new MBPs look awesome, especially with the new LED backlights. However, I'm happy with the one I've got now (except for all the spots my screen has accumulated), and I know that whatever Mac I get next will be even more awesome. :D
 
I use a macbook (black 2GHz, C2D) for Ableton Live (in fact it's my main app). I have no problems at all with the machine.

I'd say you don't really need the extra graphics capability of the MBP for the app that's for sure.

More screen is always nice but it does come at the expense of portability. As I DJ with mine it needs to fit in cramped DJ booths. The macbook is not a bad size for that.

I'm still lusting after a small MBP though (backlit keyboard, nicer build), but I wouldn't say it's essential to get a pro by any means. If you'd like to save money go for the macbook.

Where you DJ?
 
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