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Boot Rom and Bridge OS updated on my 2018 15" MB Pro. The days of a long wait (relatively speaking) from opening the lid to power on full boot are over.
 
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The only AMD video card that will run at 18w with an external monitor is the 5600m which is a $700 upgrade. Otherwise, external monitors will cause 30w and the machine runs hot and fans will be loud. It is how they are architected and why so many people are complaining about the 16inch MBP's.

That's reassuring!
 
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I'm trying to switch from the latest public Big Sur beta to this developer beta 9. Is it normal to have a full OS reinstall required?
 
Big Sur beta 9 working very well on Hackintosh .... cleaned up some bugs, and fixed some graphical glitches that persisted since beta 1. Seems that RTM/Golden Master is imminent.
 
The only way for that to occur is if the resolution on your external display matches what is on the laptop display. Again, I'm not providing a hypothetical, its the architecture of the AMD video cards. Apple should never have used them.

13w for 5600m, 20w for 5500m
 
Wait! Is this the beachball when trying to launch or use System Preferences? If so, HURRAH! This has been driving me batty, but I couldn't find any discussion of it online.

Yup! Much smoother now.

Also additional signs of fit and finish: the Light/Dark/Auto switcher in General is now updated for Big Sur.

Getting close.
 
IDK, they have some point. Apple controls the hardware and software - you'd expect them to work together perfectly.

I don't think "beta" excuses it. Mac OS X is over 20 years old - it should be rock steady by now. They shouldn't be having these regressions that take 10+ betas released over the course of 4 months to work out. There's major questions about what on earth Apple's software development practices look like that they produce so many bugs for so few improvements.

In a perfect world, that is how it should be. But in the real world, it doesn't work like that. macOS is some large number of factor more complicated than it is 5, 10 or 15 or 20 years ago. There are tens of millions of line of codes that constantly get updated and more complicated with various conditions that is difficult to test.

Big Sur isn't a minor update. Internally, it has massive file system changes such as the crypto-sealed read-only system volume for an example. That actually can complicate a lot of things. IIRC, it also changes how Time Machine works to back up to APFS system. Source: https://eclecticlight.co/2020/06/29...r-how-time-machine-backs-up-to-apfs-and-more/

Last year, they split the entire file system into two logical volumes without showing it as such to users. That's not even as easy as it sounds.

Two or three years ago (can't recall exactly), they've migrated everyone to a complete new file system without any serious issues.

If you go back 5 years and then compare it all at once, it has been going through a lot of massive changes internally. It just feels like minor update because we're only comparing it to the last year instead of going back further.

They're prepping the _entire_ codebase for Apple Silicon migration, that's their main focus.
 
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Apple knows about the issues but can't do anything about it. There are a variety of threads on the Apple Forums discussing the issue. I started one of the first threads when the 16inch MBP's were released in 2019 and the thread is up toe 238 PAGES long!

The 16inch MBP is a very flawed machine.

Surely you're using Feedback to report the issue, and not just commenting here. You know, like a beta tester. :)
 
It's

Code:
sudo softwareupdate -iaR

Without the space in-between software and update, I know you know, others might not, pretty positive autocorrect did it's job.
Didn't get it to work. Tried restart multiple times, System Prefs. update, and then Terminal. I get following error message when I hit 100%:

Failed to download & prepare update: Error Domain=SUMacControllerError Code=7740 "[SUMacControllerErrorPrepareFailed=7740] Failed to perform Prepare operation: [MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain(MSU):MSU_ERR_BRIDGEOS_PERSONALIZATION_FAILURE(44)_1_OSPErrorDomain:201_2_AuthInstallErrorDomain:11]" UserInfo={NSUnderlyingError=0x6000002307e0 {Error Domain=MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain Code=44 "bridgeOS personalization failed" UserInfo={target_update=20A5384c, NSLocalizedDescription=bridgeOS personalization failed, NSUnderlyingError=0x6000002307b0 {Error Domain=OSPErrorDomain Code=201 "An error occurred during personalization." UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=An error occurred during personalization., NSUnderlyingError=0x6000002308d0 {Error Domain=AuthInstallErrorDomain Code=11 "(null)"}}}}}, SUMacControllerErrorIndicationsMask=0, NSDebugDescription=[SUMacControllerErrorPrepareFailed=7740] Failed to perform Prepare operation: [MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain(MSU):MSU_ERR_BRIDGEOS_PERSONALIZATION_FAILURE(44)_1_OSPErrorDomain:201_2_AuthInstallErrorDomain:11], NSLocalizedDescription=Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again.}

Any suggetions?
 
Surely you're using Feedback to report the issue, and not just commenting here. You know, like a beta tester. :)


I have a case open with engineering and even provided them code level advice on the kernel, raised with Apple executive liaison between I and them.

Open since Catalina 10.15.3. Still ongoing.

Also for those that critic this fellas post cause “beta”. This is not an esoteric bug. It’s ****ing fundamental behaviour, having the machine not kernel panic or run SMC correctly should be a prerequisite for a release.

Smfh
 
Is it only me being slowly driven mad by the non-rounded menu highlights in the dock? 🙈🙊

Screenshot 2020-09-29 at 20.50.19.png
 
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Guess someone don't know what beta means..
Historically, I've found that significant bugs this close to release typically isn't a good thing.

This isn't June / early Beta. This is within a few weeks of being shoved out the door, in whatever state it's in.
 
Anyone know if eGPU support is improved in this beta? I have a Sonnet Breakaway Box 350 with a MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB and the thing keeps going to black display randomly. In Mac OS the eGPU works fine. In Windows 10 i get random blackouts or errors.
 
IDK, they have some point. Apple controls the hardware and software - you'd expect them to work together perfectly.

I don't think "beta" excuses it. Mac OS X is over 20 years old - it should be rock steady by now. They shouldn't be having these regressions that take 10+ betas released over the course of 4 months to work out. There's major questions about what on earth Apple's software development practices look like that they produce so many bugs for so few improvements.

MacOS Mountain Lion was a 4.2 GB download
MacOS Mavericks was a 5GB download.
MacOS Catalina was a 8.5GB download.

MacOS literally doubled in size in just a few years, due to hundreds of new features and the thousands of lines of new code they had to write for that.

More code = more testing = more beta's. I'd rather have 14 Big Sur beta's and a solid GM than the Catalina drama all over again.
 
Absolutely ridiculous. What the heck are Apple doing???? The 16" MBP experience is terrible. 🤬🤬🤬
Prepping you for Apple Silicone based MacBook Pro? 🤷‍♂️
P.S. it's Beta software so don't expect everything running smoothly, plus I think their focus is on the Apple Silicone and optimisations, rather than how it works on Intel.
P.S.2 I'm not saying that's a good thing 😅
 
Didn't get it to work. Tried restart multiple times, System Prefs. update, and then Terminal. I get following error message when I hit 100%:

Failed to download & prepare update: Error Domain=SUMacControllerError Code=7740 "[SUMacControllerErrorPrepareFailed=7740] Failed to perform Prepare operation: [MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain(MSU):MSU_ERR_[B]BRIDGEOS_PERSONALIZATION_FAILURE[/B](44)_1_OSPErrorDomain:201_2_[B]AuthInstallErrorDomain[/B]:11]" UserInfo={NSUnderlyingError=0x6000002307e0 {Error Domain=MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain Code=44 "[B]bridgeOS personalization failed[/B]" UserInfo={target_update=20A5384c, NSLocalizedDescription=[B]bridgeOS personalization failed[/B], NSUnderlyingError=0x6000002307b0 {Error Domain=OSPErrorDomain Code=201 "An error occurred during personalization." UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=[B]An error occurred during personalization[/B]., NSUnderlyingError=0x6000002308d0 {Error Domain=[B]AuthInstallErrorDomain Code[/B]=11 "(null)"}}}}}, SUMacControllerErrorIndicationsMask=0, NSDebugDescription=[SUMacControllerErrorPrepareFailed=7740] Failed to perform Prepare operation: [MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain(MSU):MSU_[B]ERR_BRIDGEOS_PERSONALIZATION_FAILURE[/B](44)_1_OSPErrorDomain:201_2_[B]AuthInstallErrorDomain[/B]:11], NSLocalizedDescription=Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again.}

Any suggetions?

Hmmm, seems like an authentication error to me, BridgeOS...??
 
Historically, I've found that significant bugs this close to release typically isn't a good thing.

This isn't June / early Beta. This is within a few weeks of being shoved out the door, in whatever state it's in.

Except that Apple has only said Fall as the release. We can speculate that it will be in October like other releases have been in the past, but it could be as far out as Dec. 21, which is the last day of Fall. That's nearly 3 months away.
 
8 betas (9 now) and they didn’t fix the fan issue with the MacBook Pro 16-inch when connected to an external monitor. At this point I’m ready to give up and sale this piece of c.... machine.

I truly do not understand how people are having issues with Big Sur. I have been using the beta since the first one and I have not ran into any issues. Yes the earlier betas were slow and somewhat buggy but have not ran into all the known issues that people post. I love Big Sur for a beta it runs great. Its faster then Catalina on my iMac! But I have not ran into any big issues at all. Everything I use works without problems. Sometimes I wonder if people just complain to complain about things. It was the same with iOS14 beta all these issues people would complain about and I didn't have any of those issues. But it is 2020 it has surprises around every corner.
 
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