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Apple Releases OS X 10.11.3 El Capitan With Multiple Bug Fixes

chrfr said:
There are only 2 things that I send right to production: Flash Player and Chrome. An OS update never immediately gets pushed. There's no 0-day getting fixed here in 10.11.3.
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There seems to be another thing you don't do: read. If you read my reply properly you'd have known that this only occurs in some instances. For most systems this is not the default. They stick to the old skool "wait a few days and see what crap turns up". If nothing turns up the updates will be pushed. In only a very very few cases do they actually test the updates (which usually is no more than installing them and see if strange things happen).

However, there currently is a new way of doing things and they usually use buzzwords like "continuous release" or "rolling release". Arch Linux is a good example of that. The difference is that these updates are heavily tested before being pushed out. By pushing out small updates there is a better grip on quality control because whatever testing you have to do is rather small and can be done automatically for the large part. It also means that you can quickly get fixes and new features to users. It is something Google and many others apply currently.

There is another thing Google does btw. It will push out these things to random users and see what happens. If everything goes well they'll push it out to even more users or everybody. It is more of a controlled way of releasing things.

Both ways of doing things (old and new) have their advantages as well as disadvantages. Whatever you do, it is all about thinking things through. Let's also not forget that 10.11.3 and the like have been in beta, both for devs and the public so you could have done plenty of testing already. I can imagine that people who've done this are confident enough to push the final release to their clients immediately after it was released.

And yes, there still are those very rare security/stability occasions where updates are indeed pushed out immediately without that much or any testing. That's because everything is messed up already or the threat is so big that it outweighs the risk of running into machines that are unusable.

That's where Apple says the release notes for 10.11.3 will be but Apple has not yet published those release notes.
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They never do. It always takes a couple of hours before both the release notes and security bulletin(s) have been published. Only in a few occasions was this different.
 
sunapple said:
So the message I got gave me an actual link to the file I needed to download, but after successfully installing it the message still comes back.

It's always in the foreground, popping up during movies or when typing...

Deleting anything related to the Java JDK it wanted me to download wasn't an option because I ran into websites that needed it within a day. Will look into it again if the OS X update didn't resolve the issue.

To me it seems like a bug in OS X because installing the software doesn't seem to get registered by the system. Thanks for the replies anyway!
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I think you got some malware installed on your Mac, most likely it was disguised as a Java or Flash update, so you didn't doubt to install it.
 
dyn said:
There seems to be another thing you don't do: read. If you read my reply properly you'd have known that this only occurs in some instances.
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Easy there. I wasn't disagreeing with you.
 
sunapple said:
I just want the damn thing to stop asking me to install some Java JDK every hour :(
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i had that for quite a while. For several versions of OS X, I simply downloaded the apple java again when I couldn't figure out what the issue was....

Eventually, I figured out it was some plugin from several OS version before. I am not positive, but it might have been a leftover from the old Bobsled t-mobile free telephone service. It might have been in the kernel extensions, not positive now but it was not in the typical "normal" startup items in the control panel.

Here are some places listen in the article to check in you system (as always, make a backup just incase you do something that messes up the computer booting....)

http://www.macworld.com/article/2047747/take-control-of-startup-and-login-items.html
 
FWIW, the release notes are up now.

This update:

  • Fixes an issue that may prevent some Mac computers from waking from sleep when connected to certain 4K displays.
Enterprise content:

  • Third-party .pkg file receipts stored in /var/db/receipts are now retained when upgrading from OS X Yosemite.
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Downloading now! I have to say my late 2012 mbp classic still runs like a champ. Upgraded the RAM about a year in and machine runs fantastic on newer os. Battery is incredible too.
 
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sunapple said:
So the message I got gave me an actual link to the file I needed to download, but after successfully installing it the message still comes back.

It's always in the foreground, popping up during movies or when typing...

Deleting anything related to the Java JDK it wanted me to download wasn't an option because I ran into websites that needed it within a day. Will look into it again if the OS X update didn't resolve the issue.

To me it seems like a bug in OS X because installing the software doesn't seem to get registered by the system. Thanks for the replies anyway!
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It could be that you have something in /Library/LaunchAgents and/or /Library/LaunchDaemons triggering this. Can also be in ~/Library/LaunchAgents (i.e. in your own user account).

If you can list the name of the items you have in those folders I can take a look. I have quite good knowledge about what's okay to have there and not.

If you want to geek around with this on your own I recommend LaunchControl which lets you manage these kind of services in a graphical user interface: http://www.soma-zone.com/LaunchControl/
 
When are they going to let OSX play iOS apps run as though it is an iPad Pro (or selectable) in a simulator window perhaps? Lot of iOS apps I would love to use via OSX.
 
bobbie424242 said:
There's an app for that: f.lux
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Wouldn't go without it. But it flickers off when you plug/unplug another display and it doesn't work nice with youtube unless I move the mouse up to keep showing the menu bar. If anybody knows a way around this (and a way to make videos scale correctly when clicking the full screen button), PLEASE send me a PM.

Having the stock f.lux settings integrated into Mac OS would be great. Actually put some amber LEDs in the keyboards as well so the backlight matches the color and doesn't look blue next to the amber display.
 
coolfactor said:
Why are they so lazy with the Release Notes? I'm confused. Sometimes they are very descriptive, and other times it's just a canned response. Is it laziness? Do they think that we don't need or want to know? Are they worried that they might reveal a vulnerability with non-updated systems?
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Or perhaps its about liability. More likely they just want to be hush about all the things that were wrong in the last release. Whichever way, i wish they'd get over themselves.
 
You have to remember that after any OSX update like this OSX tends to start spotlight re-indexing and re-time machining and so forth. After a while and a couple restarts OSX should settle back down to normal. Before complaing about beach balls and sluggishness, give it a little time to sort out, then complain away.... :D
 
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groovyd said:
When are they going to let OSX play iOS apps run as though it is an iPad Pro (or selectable) in a simulator window perhaps? Lot of iOS apps I would love to use via OSX.
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+ 1. Trackpads support multitouch gestures just fine and I'd much rather have a desktop and a mobile app that work just the same so hand-off is really seamless. Would love to replace OS X widgets with iOS apps fully, preferably many at once. That whole system of dragging windows around is sort of silly and outdated if you think about it. It's either full screen or just an overlapping mess.
 
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iMac 5K here. The 10.11.3 totally corrupted the OS. All Apps show as corrupted. Reinstalling the OS from restore mode did not help. Spoke to Apple support. Reinstalling everything from backup.
 
Am I the only one who CAN'T get the external displays to work with this 10.11.3 update? It was working fine before installing it, and after it no matter what I do the computer does not see the displays. I have rebooted, cold booted, and connected/disconnected everything but nothing.

I'm on a MBPr late 2013, with 2 Dell U2410 connected via DisplayPort (each on separate ports, no chaining).
 
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