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This is really the worst version of El Capitan ever, counting from Developer Beta 1. Until 10.11.5 Beta 4 everything was okay. I did not use my Late 2011 MBP that much at the moment. But the crashing apps that never crashed before are the same as on my Late 2015 iMac 5K.

Now I have even graphic problems on my iMac. Sometime a small window for example the 1Password update window gets suddenly totally messed up with a lot of different colors that I can't see anything of the content anymore, while the window next to it is totally normal. I think it also happened with Preview and something other I can't remember.

When I move such a window it gets normal for a short while and then messes up again. On a screenshot it looks totally normal. I have to move it around for a while until I see the content again or just close it. It happened four times today with maybe three different apps but they don't crash.

Opera was always open and looked totally normal but it still always crashes on both Macs when I click on "Add to Bookmarks" in the menu and than on the button for the bookmark location "Unsorted Bookmarks" says it here in the screenshot and I can't change it because it just closes the browser and OS X does not even recognize the crash to send a report:
Screen Shot 2016-05-19 at 08.17.08.png

As I wanted to send my first iMessage from the iMac today I got immediately a "Not Delivered", but was logged in saw my phone numbers and email addresses and everything looked fine. Sending with Telegram was no problem. And iMessage from the iPhone to the same person did also work.

But then I saw in the iMessage settings of my phone that I was logged out with my Apple ID. It was only activated with my phone number.

Yesterday I already got about 10 time the message that the FaceTime activation could cause carrier fees. I did not even use FaceTime and never activated it on my phone. But always after such a message or even without any, iMessage is messed up in some way. Today the logout, yesterday the "start new conversation" email address always changed back to one of my two phone numbers on my 6s Plus. Now I see that the second one from the 4s is gone on the Mac but on the 4s everything is there on the 6s Plus the 4s number is also missing.

So, the same for iOS 9.3.2 no real problem from developer beta 1 of iOS 9.0 until the update from 9.3.2 Beta 4 to the final version.

Then i just noticed. The first screenshot I made for the post here did not appear on the desktop, the second try after about ten seconds on a Late 2015 4 GHz i7 iMac with a blazing fast SSD and 32 GB of RAM. Normally even a 5K shot from the full screen would appear instantly.

I already did an SMC and NVRAM reset, the hardware test with holding D while booting up, but it did not change or found anything and when two iPhones and a much older MacBook are also affected with many problems, than it can't be hardware related. I did not see that graphics issue on the MBP yet but yesterday I mostly used it with Snow Leopard and today only for a short while at all. But the screen sometime is slightly flickering, same on the iMac.

Then there is another problem too with my Logitech wireless mouse connected to a USB receiver in the iMac. The connection is disturbed in some way (the cursr sometimes moves too slow or with many interruptions) but the maximum distance from mouse to iMac is 20cm and the batteries are new. Even as they got completely empty a few days before the update I had not a single problem.

And I never had WiFi problems with many routers since 2013. I had very much with my first MacBook (Air Mid-2013) and my first iPhone (5) on Mountain Lion and iOS 6. But they disappeared with Mavericks and iOS 7 and never came back until this update. This time it's totally different and not that bad, nut did not exist until both iOS 9.3.2 and OS X 10.11.5 were updated from beta 4 to final.

I think there were even more issues but I forgot them and if booting the USB installer of Elementary OS had worked last night on the iMac I might already be on Linux. I think I should try it with a more common one like Ubuntu or Mint first.


Edit: I remember another bug. I wondered wha my master password for 1Password diid not work anymore and later recognized that the keyboard layout has changed from Austrian to US. The US layout was not even installed before it happened today and the other one was gone.

By the way: Why does OS X even have an Austrian Keyboard layout? There is not a single difference between keyboards in Germany and Austria.
 
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Has anyone else had success or failure using this method?

The method has worked for me with several macs and has worked for every version from 10.7.2 right up to 10.11.5.

So I don't know what you did to make it fail. Anyway there is another way to update the recovery partition - run the full installer even if you have already updated the system to 10.11.5.

But that is rather like opening a nut with a sledge hammer!

My method is not so brutal and is much quicker to do. But if it failed you might like to try just running the full installer instead.
 
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This is really the worst version of El Capitan ever, counting from Developer Beta 1. Until 10.11.5 Beta 4 everything was okay. I did not use my Late 2011 MBP that much at the moment. But the crashing apps that never crashed before are the same as on my Late 2015 iMac 5K.

Now I have even graphic problems on my iMac. Sometime a small window for example the 1Password update window gets suddenly totally messed up with a lot of different colors that I can't see anything of the content anymore, while the window next to it is totally normal. I think it also happened with Preview and something other I can't remember.

When I move such a window it gets normal for a short while and then messes up again. On a screenshot it looks totally normal. I have to move it around for a while until I see the content again or just close it. It happened four times today with maybe three different apps but they don't crash.

Opera was always open and looked totally normal but it still always crashes on both Macs when I click on "Add to Bookmarks" in the menu and than on the button for the bookmark location "Unsorted Bookmarks" says it here in the screenshot and I can't change it because it just closes the browser and OS X does not even recognize the crash to send a report:
View attachment 631998

As I wanted to send my first iMessage from the iMac today I got immediately a "Not Delivered", but was logged in saw my phone numbers and email addresses and everything looked fine. Sending with Telegram was no problem. And iMessage from the iPhone to the same person did also work.

But then I saw in the iMessage settings of my phone that I was logged out with my Apple ID. It was only activated with my phone number.

Yesterday I already got about 10 time the message that the FaceTime activation could cause carrier fees. I did not even use FaceTime and never activated it on my phone. But always after such a message or even without any, iMessage is messed up in some way. Today the logout, yesterday the "start new conversation" email address always changed back to one of my two phone numbers on my 6s Plus. Now I see that the second one from the 4s is gone on the Mac but on the 4s everything is there on the 6s Plus the 4s number is also missing.

So, the same for iOS 9.3.2 no real problem from developer beta 1 of iOS 9.0 until the update from 9.3.2 Beta 4 to the final version.

Then i just noticed. The first screenshot I made for the post here did not appear on the desktop, the second try after about ten seconds on a Late 2015 4 GHz i7 iMac with a blazing fast SSD and 32 GB of RAM. Normally even a 5K shot from the full screen would appear instantly.

I already did an SMC and NVRAM reset, the hardware test with holding D while booting up, but it did not change or found anything and when two iPhones and a much older MacBook are also affected with many problems, than it can't be hardware related. I did not see that graphics issue on the MBP yet but yesterday I mostly used it with Snow Leopard and today only for a short while at all. But the screen sometime is slightly flickering, same on the iMac.

Then there is another problem too with my Logitech wireless mouse connected to a USB receiver in the iMac. The connection is disturbed in some way (the cursr sometimes moves too slow or with many interruptions) but the maximum distance from mouse to iMac is 20cm and the batteries are new. Even as they got completely empty a few days before the update I had not a single problem.

And I never had WiFi problems with many routers since 2013. I had very much with my first MacBook (Air Mid-2013) and my first iPhone (5) on Mountain Lion and iOS 6. But they disappeared with Mavericks and iOS 7 and never came back until this update. This time it's totally different and not that bad, nut did not exist until both iOS 9.3.2 and OS X 10.11.5 were updated from beta 4 to final.

I think there were even more issues but I forgot them and if booting the USB installer of Elementary OS had worked last night on the iMac I might already be on Linux. I think I should try it with a more common one like Ubuntu or Mint first.


Edit: I remember another bug. I wondered wha my master password for 1Password diid not work anymore and later recognized that the keyboard layout has changed from Austrian to US. The US layout was not even installed before it happened today and the other one was gone.

By the way: Why does OS X even have an Austrian Keyboard layout? There is not a single difference between keyboards in Germany and Austria.

Did you try doing starting into ”safe mode” and then a normal start, i.e. don't hold down the Shift key during startup?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262

I'm especially after ”Deletes font caches, Kernel cache and other system cache files”.
I think your problem is deeper, but it's worth a try.
 
Ok, gonna try that. Thanks.
No problem imusing a usb focus rite audio interface .. And I was getting a random problem where the focusrite would skip n trip out just the audio from a YouTube video, random freezes Sometimes leading to restart . Haven't seen either 2 happen so far but IM still on the lookout . I use the computer for hours daily it's been 2 days since last skip or freeze
 
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Also had this issue when installing the update. After trying a few things found that when I booted to Safe Mode successfully that after a minute or so the Installer reopened and installation of the update continued so presume something blocking it in normal mode. After restart everything OK and OSX had updated. Might help you.

Thanks, I already got tired of waiting so I restored a Time Machine backup to 10.11.4 and I'll leave it for a while!
 
Did you try doing starting into ”safe mode” and then a normal start, i.e. don't hold down the Shift key during startup?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262

I'm especially after ”Deletes font caches, Kernel cache and other system cache files”.
I think your problem is deeper, but it's worth a try.

Thanks I'll try that later today. The "safe mode" I forgot. I wanted to do a clean install, what I already did a short while back because I wanted to sell it while beta 4 was on it, but then I wasn't sure about selling it and directly updated again from 10.11.4 to 10.11.5 beta 4 one day later and only a few days before the final version was released. So it is still very clean. I did not install very much because it is still much too over-dimensioned for me and I can't justify keeping a 4.000 Euro iMac when I just use it for surfing the web most of the time. ;)

I could also try ErtreCheck what I recommended yesterday to someone else but did not use it myself. How stupid... :oops:

So now I have to get sure it's no hardware related issue before I really sell it. But I can't believe it could be hardware related because beside that graphics issue I think everything else is happening on my 4 year older MBP too, where much more software is installed on and the last clean install was long ago.

Maybe the graphics drivers had been updated from beta 4 to final 10.11.5. But I try what you suggest before before clean installing any older version and to see if it still happens and if not clean installing 10.11.5 again and testing it a few days without installing anything. That's how I planned it before selling it.


Edit: I also have Windows 10 (latest beta) installed on it with Boot Camp after the final 10.11.5 was released. And there I did not see any bug. But I used it only for about one or two hours yet for testing to do a payment in Internet Explorer because it is not working any more since a while and they always recommend that browser if a problem occurs. But it did not work there too. I also installed Firefox Nightly in there and played a little around to see how Window 10 is like. It's running perfect but I still hate using Windows.


Edit 10: At least the bug crashing Opera Developer is gone now. I got an update for it today. So that one could be just caused by the Opera version before. But the same version was fine in beta 4.
 
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I booted in safe mode an restarted. It did not help and is even worse today. I made a photo of Finder and "About this Mac", Opera and Textual 6 (IRC Client) are looking normal while that.

Photos is affected too by that graphics error and it startet like I never used it before, there was nothing in it anymore. It's getting worse every day. :mad:

IMG_1182.jpg


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I was getting an odd graphics problem when I was working with El Cap 10.11.3 about a month ago, with odd box-shaped checkerboard patterns showing up at various places on the screen. I was using a fairly large picture as the desktop background, so I fell back to a smaller picture (file size) and the problem went away. I was having other grief with El Cap so I never following this up. I've got a 2011 27" iMac with the AMD Radeon HD 6770M chipset. I'm going to switch back to that other backdrop and see if the issue returns.
 
This version seems to be working great but the last update corrupted my wifi configuration. It used to drop the connection every 5 min. Finally read on a blog how to delete the wifi config. and then restarted the Macbook and all is great again. Overall this version seems very stable to me.
 
I was getting an odd graphics problem when I was working with El Cap 10.11.3 about a month ago, with odd box-shaped checkerboard patterns showing up at various places on the screen. I was using a fairly large picture as the desktop background, so I fell back to a smaller picture (file size) and the problem went away. I was having other grief with El Cap so I never following this up. I've got a 2011 27" iMac with the AMD Radeon HD 6770M chipset. I'm going to switch back to that other backdrop and see if the issue returns.

My Late 2011 MBP has also the Radeon HD 6770M, but there I did not see this strange graphics problem from my iMac with M395X yet. It just happened again. This time in iMessage. It seems to happen only in apps that are integrated in OS X if the 1Password updater uses the standard installer too and I am getting it more the longer I use this version of El Capitan, on the first day it wasn't there, later only a few times and now very often.
 
The method has worked for me with several macs and has worked for every version from 10.7.2 right up to 10.11.5.

So I don't know what you did to make it fail. Anyway there is another way to update the recovery partition - run the full installer even if you have already updated the system to 10.11.5.

But that is rather like opening a nut with a sledge hammer!

My method is not so brutal and is much quicker to do. But if it failed you might like to try just running the full installer instead.

Thx for the reply. I think I misunderstood the original direction. Because I had downloaded the full installer, I went ahead and ran the full installer, then ran your method to update the recovery partition. I thought the recovery partitions did not usually update. I will try to fix it by just re-running the full installer.

Just for clarification, I do not need to do a nuke-and-pave, just a full re-install over the current OS? That should not be too hard because I created a usb installer.

I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge with the not-so-gifted!
 
When you ran the full installer it would have already updated the recovery partition to a 10.11.5 version.

The point of my method is that you do not need to run the full installer at all. You just download it to extract the InstallESD.dmg file and together with my terminal commands and recovery.sh and RecoveryHDUpdate.dmg files to update the recovery partition from a previous version.

If you have already updated the system to 10.11.5 via the mac app store update or the delta or combo, that would not have updated the recovery partition. That is when my method is useful.

If you run the full installer again over your existing system that too will update the recovery partition to a 10.11.5 version - but as I said before that is like opening a nut with a sledge hammer. My method is much more efficient.
 
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HOW TO UPDATE THE RECOVERY PARTITION

You can update the recovery partition too to a 10.11.5 version using the following steps (the update via mac app store or delta or combo don't do this):

1. Download the Lion Recovery Update from https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1464?locale=en_US . (And before you ask, YES. I mean LION recovery update!) Make sure it is in your downloads folder. Download the full installer for 10.11.5 from the mac app store. Right click on the Install OS X El Capitan.app file and click Show Package Contents. Go to Contents/SharedSupport/. Copy the InstallESD.dmg file into your Downloads folder.

2. Download and decompress the file recovery.sh.zip from http://4unitmaths.com/recovery.sh.zip and move recovery.sh into your Downloads folder if it's not there already.

3. Open Terminal and type the following commands:

chmod +x ~/Downloads/recovery.sh
sudo ~/Downloads/recovery.sh

4. Wait a few minutes for it to finish and return back to a prompt. Reboot with holding down the option key to test your recovery partition.

:confused: How do I know which version I have currently?
 
Just hold down the option key when booting up to get to the startup manager. It will tell you which version is the recovery partition.

Here is my startup manager before I updated it. Note the El Capitan system is 10.11.5 but recovery partition is still the 10.11.4 version:

10.11.4recoverpartition.jpg


and then after updating it with my method I posted before:

10.11.5recovery.jpg


As you can see I now have a 10.11.5 recovery partition.

If you have core storage you have to revert it first in order for the recovery partition to show up in the startup manager.

If necessary you can revert it by running these 2 commands in terminal.

diskutil cs list

and then

diskutil coreStorage revert lvUUID

where lvUUID is the last lvUUID reported by the previous Terminal command.

Then restart for everything to get back to normal after you have run these commands in Terminal.
 
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Thanks!
What is "core storage"??


edit – further info:
  • I have FileVault2 activated.
  • Recovery isnt shown if I boot with option key o_O
 
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Core storage is a layer between the disk partition and the file system for logical volume management. It was sprung on us by surprise in the first yosemite developer previews and continues with el capitan. The full installer converts some computers (but not all) to core storage without warning and hides the recovery partition from the startup manager. Many people don't like this - especially people who dual boot multiple systems and recovery partitions. But it is easy to revert it back using the terminal commands I posted above.

You may not need to though.

If you run

diskutil cs list

and it returns

No CoreStorage logical volume groups found

then you don't need to worry about it and the recovery partition will show up in your startup manager.
 
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  • I have FileVault2 activated.
  • Recovery isnt shown if I boot with option key o_O


I got this from Terminal:
[doublepost=1463738513][/doublepost]Ah forgot something…

  • What is the advantge/disadvantage of core storage?
  • Do I have to disable FileFault 2 before switching the core storage status??
 

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Looks like you have 2 core storage logical volumes one of which is revertible and the other isn't.

The revertible one is saying that if you want to revert it then unlock and decryption is required.

You can use instructions in this webpage to unlock and decrypt before reverting: https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2...ecrypt-your-filevault-2-encrypted-boot-drive/

Then to revert your revertible volume you can run this:

diskutil coreStorage revert 29AD7866-5B5B-4961-9D5B-113752CE8E70

HOWEVER........ Don't do this if it is a fusion drive.
 
I have the original Apple SSD in my MBP and attached by USB a 1TB HD. Both a incrypted.
I want to have my drives with FileVault. And decrypt an incrypt again takes surely hours.

Sorry I'm no techie

So is it possible for me to:
  • check the version of my Recovery?
  • Use your tutorial to update the Recovery?
 
Sorry I'm no techie

So is it possible for me to:
  • check the version of my Recovery?
  • Use your tutorial to update the Recovery?

When you say "sorry I'm no techie" then what follows will make you one.

There is another way to check the version of your recovery partition - but really the easiest way is just to revert the core storage and then boot up the startup manager. The version number is very simple to see as my photos above show.

Anyway, it seems you don't want to revert your core storage.

So now do this instead.

In terminal type this:

defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled -bool true

then in disk utility in the Debug menu item click Show every partition

Select the recovery partition and mount it.

Navigate to com.apple.recovery.boot folder.

Open it.

Control-click SystemVersion.plist and open with TextEdit.

In my case it says

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>ProductBuildVersion</key>
<string>15F34</string>
<key>ProductCopyright</key>
<string>1983-2016 Apple Inc.</string>
<key>ProductName</key>
<string>Mac OS X</string>
<key>ProductUserVisibleVersion</key>
<string>10.11.5</string>
<key>ProductVersion</key>
<string>10.11.5</string>
</dict>
</plist>

The last bit

<key>ProductVersion</key>
<string>10.11.5</string>

indicates the recovery partition is a 10.11.5 version.

And by the way my recovery partition update method works in core storage too.
 
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