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Hey guys, I am finally making the switch from my crappy dell to a mac, even though I had started with the apple mac when I was smaller :) I was wondering if it is really worth getting the 4 GB of ram memory over the 2GB. Will it make a huge difference and if its a good idea. I was also wondering if it makes any real difference between getting the 2.5 GHz vs 2.6 GHz and is that glossy screen better then the regular screen? Also should I just buy this revision or wait till the summer, could it be that much better? I would really appreciate ur guys advise. :D
 
Hey guys, I am finally making the switch from my crappy dell to a mac, even though I had started with the apple mac when I was smaller :) I was wondering if it is really worth getting the 4 GB of ram memory over the 2GB. Will it make a huge difference and if its a good idea. I was also wondering if it makes any real difference between getting the 2.5 GHz vs 2.6 GHz and is that glossy screen better then the regular screen? Also should I just buy this revision or wait till the summer, could it be that much better? I would really appreciate ur guys advise. :D

Would you like us to pick it out for you too? :p
 
Hey guys, I am finally making the switch from my crappy dell to a mac, even though I had started with the apple mac when I was smaller :) I was wondering if it is really worth getting the 4 GB of ram memory over the 2GB. Will it make a huge difference and if its a good idea. I was also wondering if it makes any real difference between getting the 2.5 GHz vs 2.6 GHz and is that glossy screen better then the regular screen? Also should I just buy this revision or wait till the summer, could it be that much better? I would really appreciate ur guys advise. :D

The RAM is worth it to go to 4gb, but don't BTO. Newegg or Crucial are your best bets for the upgraded RAM.

And I personally think the 2.5 is sufficient, saving you $250 for just a 100Mhz speed increase.
 
I'm like you, changing from PC to Mac. For now I just know I want the glossy screen, but that's just going to any Apple store and seeing it for yourself.
I currently have 1,5GB on a PC in my lab and the Matlab runs reaaally slow so maybe 4GB is really a good idea if you buy the Kingston or Crucial ones for $100.
 
can somebody tell me the difference interms of speed b/w

256 & 512 Vram
Usually the 512 MB memory is faster, but that isn't always the case. We have to wait till someone is able to run 3Dmark on the new system. The bandwidth improvements would only be noticed if using AA or other high bandwidth operations.
 
amazing they can put 512 vram in such a small laptop. I am excited to see these benchmarks once this computer is out in public
 
how good is the apple refurb product ?
thinking bout getting the refurb since im out of cash
if only this thing came out early
 
Hi guys, I've been following this forum (esp. the speculation threads about updates) very closely, the past 2 weeks or so..

I'm currently in dire need of a new MBP and will recieve one tomorrow (Wed.)..
I'll be getting the 'old' entrylevel MBP (2.2 gHz, 2g RAM etc. - ordered 13th Feb.)

As I did expect this scenario to unfold, I made a call to Apple prior to placing the order.
Obviously, I'll have the option to refund, minus the £60 fee.
Also, the rep told me they'd be willing to offer me cash rebate, if I keep the one I ordered.
I had this confirmed today, so no worries there.

My question to you all is;
Should I return the MBP tomorrow, get the refund and re-order the new entrylevel MBP??
Thing is, I reeeally need to be able to start working on it, BUT - not so much that I feel like cheating myself..
I don't care about storage space, much less the trackpad and slightly more about the latch.
I DO care about speed (CPU), RAM and esp. graphics. I will be using it exclusively for graphic design, in intense periods and on large files/images. (Think 400+mb Photoshop files..)

Considering the fact that time is a factor, but also my money's worth, what should I opt for?? - Returning = more waiting, less work (and $$$), keeping = savings (rebate) & more work, but less juice for my $$$.

Help me, pls! :confused:
Thx.

PS: Great forum, good vibe in here... :D

I asked myself a similar question since the old MBPs are a steal right now on amazon. In the end, I decided that the aggravation in 3-4 years when my new MBP was running a bit slow and I thought to myself "dammit, shoulda went with the penryn!" wasn't worth it.

If the 60 pounds isn't that important to you, I'd go with the penryn just so you won't feel like you have dated technology immediately.

(Please, those inclined to -- and you know who you are -- spare me the "but the new mbps are dated technology!" replies.)

Thx for your reply!! I'm kinda inclined to return, the processor is really crucial to me...
Anybody else has thoughts on this?

Thx
 
Just got mine

Woo im typing this on my new 15 inch macbook pro. I couldnt wait so I went to the store and bought the lower end one. Didn't think that the extra vram/hd/100mhz was worth the $500.:D
 
I did not want to read through all of these posts but I can confirm that neither the new macbook or the new pro come with the apple remote. I work for Best Buy and our new macbooks came in today. I opened the 1299 one and it did not include the remote, plus its an option on apples website.
 
Anything is possible. The will definitely be a (major) upgrade come August for the new Intel chipset. If you always wait for an upgrade it will come but then you will always be waiting.

If you are speaking of Montevina, and depending on your definition of "major," this coming summer upgrade may not count as "major". However, the Nehalem upgrade sounds like it is going to be a major upgrade.
 
Not much to cheer about

Oddly enough the number of negatives for the MacBook update is higher than positives yet that model got updated after just 3 months. The MB Pro has been waiting almost 3 times that long.

1. Yes I know the Penryn is a better chip so the 100MHz upgrade is much more than that, but we've been waiting 8 months.

2. For $500 you get a 4.17% faster CPU, a bigger HD and some more VRAM? Are MB Pro buyers really that stupid?

3. Wow, I can get another 4% CPU speed if I spend yet another $250. Thank you Mr. Jobs.

Seriously folks. Show me a real world task where you actually notice a 4% CPU speed boost.

As a minor AAPL shareholder I say "God bless those who must have the best regardless of how much it costs or how little improvement it offers over the entry level model".
 
I was really waiting for this so I could buy the previous 2.4GHz 15" MBP at a reduced price.

But the new 'low-end' model is actually better than the old 'high-end' one! So I will be going with that instead.

Old 2.4GHz model: $1,859 @ Amazon
New 2.4GHz model: $1,599 + $99 for ADC Student Membership + 0.8625% sales tax = $1,845

For a few $$$ less I get a bigger HD, multi-touch and newer (faster?) processor.
 
how good is the apple refurb product ?
thinking bout getting the refurb since im out of cash
if only this thing came out early

Refurbs are actually better in some ways than buying new. Apple rigorously tests their products before reselling them. New products are believed to be perfect from the factory so there aren't many tests on them. Which makes it really frustrating when you get the one in a million bad computer. The Apple online store has some really great deals on refurbs right now. I just bought a refurb Mac mini earlier this morning to put in the living room. The prices on refurbs have been cut drastically in the last few days which caused many people to believe the new MB and MBP would be released.
 
I was really waiting for this so I could buy the previous 2.4GHz 15" MBP at a reduced price.

But the new 'low-end' model is actually better than the old 'high-end' one! So I will be going with that instead.

Old 2.4GHz model: $1,859 @ Amazon
New 2.4GHz model: $1,599 + $99 for ADC Student Membership + 0.8625% sales tax = $1,845

For a few $$$ less I get a bigger HD, multi-touch and newer (faster?) processor.

Is the ADC membership available for anyone in college or is it just for students enrolled in a computer software program?
 
OMG, I'm actually in-shock that this day has finally come - I've been wanting to upgrade my Powerbook since January 2007!

I was hoping for a magnetic latch and the MBA/MB keyboard but I'm fine with what we got b/c Penryn was the main reason I waited.

Anyways, just placed my order for the $2,500 config (w/glossy screen) and used my ADC discount. Total: ~$2,100 with tax...Shweet! :D

Pardon me for my ignorance. But can you tell me what is ADC discount?
 
Yes 0.1Ghz is such a slight difference (about a 4% increase) no one would notice. But moving from 256 to 512MB of VRAM is a doubling (100% increase) So it might be noticeable.

The question is what does Apple software do with VRAM? I know that video games typically use VRAM to cache texture maps so more VRAM gives a gamers either more detailed texture or smoother transitions between scenes. But I'd hope no one is buy a MBP as a windows game platform, so what does Apple software, the applications that the MBP was designed to run, do with VRAM?

Core Image, but that's for a certain class of applications and they're easy to identify.

Core Animation. This is the biggie. More and more cocoa apps will be layer-backed. More textures needs more vram.
 
Woo im typing this on my new 15 inch macbook pro. I couldnt wait so I went to the store and bought the lower end one. Didn't think that the extra vram/hd/100mhz was worth the $500.:D

Wow buddy congrats . I ordered the same one on ADC apple store and i might get it by the weekend. I agree with you on the savings of $500. But our MBP has only 3MB L2 cache whereas the 2.5 has 6MB. That was the only sorrow but i still back my decision.

PS : hows the silver beauty workin ?:)
 
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