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Apple just can't get it right. Does anyone else remember iOS updates being so faulty?
No.

Try using Windows, and in particular Microsoft Edge. Two or three updates a week - always breaking and changing things, moving icons and buttons, and their AI Copilot worming its way into your system.

The other week Skype automatically updated itself in the middle of a call - shutting down and restarting.

And don't start me off about their New Outlook garbage app...

(Background: I'm currently in the process of transitioning away from Microsoft and Windows to 100% Apple, but am still using my PC for some tasks in the meantime).

Keep calm and carry on.
 
Noticed it was updating the firmware also. Haven't seen this in OTA updates.
I have to wonder what an 8.22 GB is all about. This is NOT a minor update.
Of course OTA updates are updating the firmware(s)! You don't see it because the only thing you see when updating OTA is a white Apple logo and a status bar 🤣

The message your are seeing by updating via finder/iTunes is always there when using the finder/iTunes method to update. Even if you "force" to update to the same version via a downloaded .ipsw-file, you are seeing the "updating firmware" message. Nothing new here.

And also the size is nothing new: iOS 17 full images have been around 8 GB from 17.0 beta on (show here for iPhone 14 Pro Max from ipsw.me)! 🤣

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No.

Try using Windows, and in particular Microsoft Edge. Two or three updates a week - always breaking and changing things, moving icons and buttons, and their AI Copilot worming its way into your system.

The other week Skype automatically updated itself in the middle of a call - shutting down and restarting.

And don't start me off about their New Outlook garbage app...

(Background: I'm currently in the process of transitioning away from Microsoft and Windows to 100% Apple, but am still using my PC for some tasks in the meantime).

Keep calm and carry on.

That's fair. And agreed about Outlook! But all those updates seem to be the standard for Windows. I don't remember ever having to update so much between the major iOS updates. I get that they're adding new feature but really- they're fixing more than they're adding.
 
Well I updated it to the new build, and now my MacBook Pro is ~8GB worse off spacewise. When does that go away?
 
Mine was 7.99 GB for iPhone 14 Pro and 17.75 GB for iPad Pro 12.9 gen 3 Wi-Fi and cellular (2018)
 
Of course OTA updates are updating the firmware(s)! You don't see it because the only thing you see when updating OTA is a white Apple logo and a status bar 🤣

The message your are seeing by updating via finder/iTunes is always there when using the finder/iTunes method to update. Even if you "force" to update to the same version via a downloaded .ipsw-file, you are seeing the "updating firmware" message. Nothing new here.

And also the size is nothing new: iOS 17 full images have been around 8 GB from 17.0 beta on (show here for iPhone 14 Pro Max from ipsw.me)! 🤣

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If 17.4 is still being signed as per this image then why did iTunes block me from installing a 17.4 IPSW last night whereas it did not a few weeks ago? I tried both the final release and the earlier 17.4 “RC” as well.
Inconsistent behavior like this and arbitrary gatekeeping of their hardware and software makes me glad they are getting sued.
 
I think it’s more so the software development team is dealing with a catastrophic nightmare: playing catch-up with iOS 18 development!

Apple’s software quality is manageable at best.
You know Apple has more than one Dev team. The team working on bug fixes for 17 is not the same team working on 18.
 
Any chance this update allows a phone running 17.4.X to connect to a watch running watchOS 9.X.X? I am not brave enough to try since I can no longer downgrade back to 17.3.1. So...anyone still running watchOS 9.6.3 brave enough to try?
 
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