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Apple Releases Sixth OS X Yosemite Public Beta

Question... Will this solve all the bugs I've reported?

#1 iPhone plug in knocking out bluetooth completely.

#2 Displays inability to remember which display to boot to.

I think these are now my last 2 bugs. Oh, well and Feedback Assistant knocking out my WIFI router, but I assume that buggy program will be gone after the release I hope.
 
Steve121178 said:
No, because I am not insane.

After being bitten by the iOS 8 no cellular connectivity bug, Apple are going to have to work very hard to gain my trust back.

Right now Apple are behaving like complete amateurs with sub-standard software and abysmal quality control.
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Yeah, cause apple, or anybody else for that matter cares about your trust and cares about gaining it back. A little bug and years and years of trust just vanished? Really, are you THAT shallow?
 
people still up in arms about new design stuff...


Welp.... on a screen, as far as I can tell, you can make stuff which is more 3D, and .....you can make stuff which is less 3D.


Really wondering how many other style choices there can honestly be when it comes to computing....
 
Did they fix / bring back the sound "blips" when adjusting the volume with the keyboard? I really like hearing the blips because it is instant feedback of the actual sound volume. Without it you have to play or trigger a sound to hear how loud it is. Seemed like a stupid thing to remove.

riffcat said:
Since first public beta of Yosemite, the only bug ive noticed on my 2009 MacBook pro is the sound volume graphic bug. The sound sound slider on the status bar will often become "greyed out" when wake up from sleep and have to kick it into functionality from system preferences by toggling the show in menu bar on/off.
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jamesarm97 said:
Did they fix / bring back the sound "blips" when adjusting the volume with the keyboard? I really like hearing the blips because it is instant feedback of the actual sound volume. Without it you have to play or trigger a sound to hear how loud it is. Seemed like a stupid thing to remove.
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You can turn this back on in Sound preferences
 
thejadedmonkey said:
You certainly cannot deny that Aqua was "lickable" in a way that Yosemite never will be!
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I actually liked 3D over flat, but if you do speed tests between Leopard & Tiger, you'll quickly see that Leopard is nearly twice as slow doing all those effects and I've done the comparison on a variety of graphics cards/machines.

With Leopard, if you didn't do graphic arts or digital editing of some kind or play games, you really only had Core Image to slow your Mac down while writing an email. LOL

Tiger is still fast, flat, clean, and neat. My Mom still uses it. She's seen my Mac with Leopard & later, but she's like, "Eh, I don't need that really!" And now that Yosemite looks more like Tiger again than Leopard, she really totally doesn't get it! LOL
 
System Preferences - Network Pane error ...

I reported this error to apple via the feedback tool on September 23rd and I am still seeing the issue...

With “Require an administrator password to access system-wide preferences” enabled.

Start System Preferences and click on Network.
Click on the lock and authenticate
Click on Advanced
Change a setting - I added a search domain to DNS
Click OK to close the window.
Then click on The LOCK to “prevent further changes”
You are prompted to apply your changes … Click on Apply or Don’t Apply
The lock icon remains unlocked and clicking on it does not trigger an event, however the pane is now locked.
You need to exit system preferences altogether and restart it to regain functionality for the networking pane.

Is anyone else experiencing this issue??

Cheers,
KnightOwl
 
deputy_doofy said:
Maybe because "flat" has been browbeaten into us, but I like the way Yosemite looks from the pictures I've seen. I liken it to flat screen TVs of today (Yosemite) to the old, wooden TVs of the early 1980s.

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At some point, fancy was the desired thing, now it just looks.... wrong.
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And just as you said that, the Curved TVs are making a comeback via UHDTV! HAHA!
 
IOwnAppleStuff said:
It's not "almost 5 years old". From wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipad_2)

iPad 2

Developer
Apple Inc.

Manufacturer
Foxconn

Product family
iPad

Type
Tablet computer

Release date
March 11, 2011
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Sorry I miss typed I meant to say almost 4 and didn't catch that my bad.

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adm58 said:
5 years ago there were no iPads. iPad 2 came out 3 1/2 years ago. And was on sale until about 6 months ago.



In what universe is this true? Apple designs the hardware and the software. If they didn't design iOS 8 for the iPad 2, it wouldn't run on it. The first gen iPad doesn't run it. It's not like the guy hacked his iPad 2 to run iOS 8...Apple released it. Apple designed it. Apple made it work on it.
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And to my point the iPad 2 was originally designed for iOS 4 the fact that Apple has given it os updates is so that you can run apps that may require it. But unless I am wrong no where did Apple promise that it would run just as fun as a current iPad.
 
X-X said:
Windows Vista was presented in 2005.

It was ALL about transparency, that was the new hip thing 10 years ago.
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Then by that metric, it was all the rage in 2001 with OS X 10.0. Transparent Window bars, transparent drop down menus, transparent dialogues....

Yosemite does something that has existed before in a significantly more tasteful and elegant way.
 
Steve121178 said:
No, because I am not insane.

After being bitten by the iOS 8 no cellular connectivity bug, Apple are going to have to work very hard to gain my trust back.

Right now Apple are behaving like complete amateurs with sub-standard software and abysmal quality control.
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OS X is not iOS.
 
Seandroid said:
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Then by that metric, it was all the rage in 2001 with OS X 10.0. Transparent Window bars, transparent drop down menus, transparent dialogues....

Yosemite does something that has existed before in a significantly more tasteful and elegant way.
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You'll never please all the people all the time. Personally I really like Yosemite, a tasteful improvement.

What do people want then? I'm struggling to imagine a significantly different design direction. Because skeuomorphism isn't the way.
 
locoboi187 said:
I have a 2012 retina 15 in. How can i reproduce this error? I haven't experienced it yet.
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It occurs on some 2012 models with HD4000 graphics - it appears to be related to GPU switching. There is a pretty large thread in the dev forums about it.
 
deviant said:
Yeah, cause apple, or anybody else for that matter cares about your trust and cares about gaining it back. A little bug and years and years of trust just vanished? Really, are you THAT shallow?
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It's not about what Apple wants, it's about what is best for me.

It's not just the iOS issue. Apple's software has been rubbish for years and there's no way I am installing OS X on my machines on day 1.

I'm not shallow. I rely on my computers for work. I'll wait before I install it until I'm sure they haven't screwed it up with any major issues. Because that's just common sense.

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Mike MA said:
OS X is not iOS.
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No **** Sherlock.

But both are rushed releases that are clearly not ready for prime time yet.
 
RhythmGuru said:
Uh oh. I'm testing Yosemite in Parallels, haven't been able to test my Junos. It doesn't work at all?
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Juno works for me.
Also Citrix Viewer in case someone uses it.

But it depends on many things I guess.

For me since beta 5 system boot is terrible.
Onyx doesn't really work yet and I have no clue how to clean up caches and improve boot time.
 
Yosemite only has one thing I don't like that much as far as the UI. Its the trash can icon just looks too white or something. I really like how the UI follows the color of the wallpaper just like iOS does. Pretty cool.
 
Sigh. I came here to see if bugs were fixed. I had to filter through 5 pages of complaining that it hasn't even been talked about.
 
SCOLANATOR said:
You'll never please all the people all the time. Personally I really like Yosemite, a tasteful improvement.

What do people want then? I'm struggling to imagine a significantly different design direction. Because skeuomorphism isn't the way.
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I can't speak for others, but I think Yosemite got some things right, and some things wrong. You are right that skeuomorphism isn't the right way, and I'm glad it's gone. I dislike the gaudy colors (especially the folders) and the overuse of translucency (in the windows, I like it in other places like menus.) Some of the icons look nice (preview, Maps) others look way too simple and crude. 10.0 was also a bit over the top in its design (ironically, the translucency was also a problem) but it was gradually refined, so It'll be interesting to see how Yosemite's style gets refined over the years.
 
flat != modern

I hate it when people say something looks modern, or dated. Meaningless terms that people use to talk to themselves when they don't know enough about design to have a vocabulary. And I like transparency, but I HATE the way it has been implemented in iOS and what I have seen in Yosemite. The transparency needs to be almost opaque, and the blur needs to be much more crisp. The current wax-paper-on-melted-crayons look is amateurish, ugly, and distracting. I like buttons that look like buttons, and scrollbars that don't run away from me, and frames that define the edges of windows. Flat apparently means frameless and modern must mean melty.

The volume pop-up on iOS used to be something I could tolerate while gaming because I could pretty much see through it. Useful, obvious, not impairing. I chose what to look at. Now it's a big effectively opaque blur with a random color scheme melted into it. It's worse for driving games than Mario Kart squid ink.

Apple hardware still seems to be form-follows-function, but the UI design elements in the software are ... arbitrary, incoherent, unrefined. Buttons that don't look like buttons and the play-button-means-it's-not-playing UI elements borrowed from the big bag of Windows human interface mistakes make me want to cry.

I'll still buy it. There's nothing better. But Apple seems to be offering an opening to someone who wants to take the crown in presenting a refined user interface.
 
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