Apple Releases Sixth OS X Yosemite Public Beta

[Nanotyrns]

Size matters

Only 55MB! Nearly ready for final release

I was kind of surprised at the small size too. I avoided doing it at home before work because I thought it would take too long.

 

[dlastmango]

Don't be so obtuse. OP never said that it looked like Tiger, just that it doesn't look like what he would consider "modern".

Obtuse???

 

[Negaiido]

I think people that like to complain about the "modern" thing should stop mentioning it in a thread about a new PB release.

 

[hagar]

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Man, those folder icons are ugly. Even if they tried, they could not make them more ugly. Looks like something from Windows XP.

Also hope the app-specific folders go away soon, or can be hidden. I organise my files according to context, not app.

 

[iamMacPerson]

You certainly cannot deny that Aqua was "lickable" in a way that Yosemite never will be!

Well, its still technically called Aqua. I blame Apple for the confusion. They should have called it something else this time and let Aqua be what it was in previous releases. I'd call it "Lucidity" or something of that nature. At least call it Aqua 3.0 or something (I say 3.0 because Leopard was like 2.0).


Is it just me or is PB6s Safari a lot faster and more stable? Just seems better. Annotations are as smooth as a hot knife through butter here. (late-2013 rMBP w/discreet GPU using Iris Pro).

 

[bigmikeinnj]

i love Apple, the day I eary retired from IBM I bought my first Mac, an LC, I'm on my 8th, a mid 2011 27 inch iMac. Since installing the 1st public beta I have had nothing but wifi and Bluetooth problems. When my wife plugs her iPhone 5s into our Time Capsule USB port to charge it the blue tooth starts acting flaky, suddenly scrolling down becomes what a pinch motion outward does. Click on a link in the address bar and now it opens a new window. Keep trying to use it and suddenly you can't type. In earlier iterations I could not use my wireless printer at all. Had to shut my iMac off and print from my iPad air or switch off the wireless on the printer and use a cable, but hey then Bluetooth would break again and the keyboard and track pad would not respond, OMG I am embarrassed what they've done.

Today I took my iMac into my local Apple Store to have the Super Drive replaced and offered to show the Genius how it fails. He's heard about it and tested the iMac with a wired keyboard and mouse. I'm having them wipe my drive and install Mavericks back on. I'll stay wth Mavericks a good long while as its UI is far easier for me to see, I'm legally blind and that thinner more whatever look make my computer very hard on the eyes to use. Next time there's Public Beta software come out I'll watch from the sidelines.

Hope you all get your issues fixed, can't wait to get my old iMac working right again

 

[jpmd70]

It's Beta Software... enough said.

 

[Lennyvalentin]

You can turn this back on in Sound preferences

Wow, thank you. I didn't know I was missing the blips until previous poster said he was missing them, but now I'm glad mine are back also! (Although the old mavs and "cat" releases blip sound was nicer to my ears. Not sure why it needed changing... *shrug* You get some, you give some I suppose!)

Yose is great, IMO. I'm really liking the new look, it's smooth and super professional looking - to my eyes. Understandable if some detest it - nobody likes everything.

One thing they could have fixed though is the clumsy way you pick networks. Right now, if your regular internet connection goes down and you connect your iphone as backup, you need to either disable the non-working interface (and if you disable wifi, things like Maps and maybe others too will whine at you), or you need to manually re-arrange the connections list by means of a drop-down menu, opening up a new window and dragging the connections there. You can't even drag the connections right in the main window, you need a second window to do that...

Then you need to hit the "apply" button to actually make your changes stick. And you need to change the list order back when your main internet connection goes up again or you'll unwittingly suck your iphone's data cap dry by needless surfing and downloading stuff via cellular data.

Why can't it do this automatically? Or at least pop up a window asking if I want to use Working Alternative Connection X (such as my iPhone)? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see something like this seamlessly working, and I'm on my fourth consecutive OSX release now.

To be fair, windows handles this just as sh** as well, not that it's any sort of excuse for Apple to drop the ball. Internet access is becoming more and more important, and with the addition of iCloud Drive and so on, Apple's bringing us one step closer to constant, ubiqutous, persistent online presence with not just communications, but our data as well...

 

[mainstreetmark]

That's not how the Safari icon has looked in any of the Yosemite public betas. Actually, I don't think it ever looked like that, at least publicly. The Safari icon has been consistent since Apple previewed Yosemite at WWDC. What you've linked there is probably just someone's poor attempt at duplicating the Safari icon.

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Whatever - it was a GIS. The point remains - I find the "flat" Safari icon far less engaging than the older Safari icons. I find the depth and texture of pre-Yosemite, and pre-iOS7 engaging. In fact, my iPad1 still runs iOS6, and I prefer the appearance.

 

[HyperZboy]

Ok, since everyone here is posting gibberish, I actually downloaded the latest beta 6 and here are my results...

#1 If you have more than 1 display, Yosemite is DOA for you. Yosemite will never remember your startup display leaving you scrambling for a 2nd display not turned on or an HDTV remote. I've reported this since Beta 1. Apple has chosen not to fix the bug. This does not happen in Mavericks btw with the exact same displays or even in Leopard. I have tried everything from plugging in/out both displays, zapping PRAM. YOSEMITE IS JUST DOA on THIS and you should probably wait for an update before upgrading if you have a 2nd display.

#2 It's unclear to met yet whether the Bluetooth/iPhone thing is fixed or not so far.

I'll post more this week to see what happens, but #1 definitely makes YOSEMITE DOA for me. Just too much of a pain and hoop to jump through on every reboot. Nobody with Mavericks will like this problem. I got into the beta program to help fix things. If Apple doesn't fix this, I will delete Yosemite and stick with Mavericks until they figure it out. Lots of people have multiple displays today. This is totally unacceptable.

-- Mac Pro 2.93 GHz Quad Core, ATI HD5770, 12 Gb RAM, plenty of Tbs HD space.

 

[agaskew]

It occurs on some 2012 models with HD4000 graphics - it appears to be related to GPU switching. There is a pretty large thread in the dev forums about it.

Any chance you could link to this thread? I've had various "Intel GPU Hang" incidents and have an Apple store appointment looming. Thanks.

 

[doelcm82]

I hate it when people say something looks modern, or dated. Meaningless terms that people use to talk to themselves when they don't know enough about design to have a vocabulary. And I like transparency, but I HATE the way it has been implemented in iOS and what I have seen in Yosemite. The transparency needs to be almost opaque, and the blur needs to be much more crisp. The current wax-paper-on-melted-crayons look is amateurish, ugly, and distracting. I like buttons that look like buttons, and scrollbars that don't run away from me, and frames that define the edges of windows. Flat apparently means frameless and modern must mean melty.

I hate it when people say something looks amateurish, ugly, and distracting, after criticizing others for using "modern" or "dated".

 

[Nickerbocker]

I think it is shaping up and looking pretty good.

 

[Parasprite]

You honestly think..

This.

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Looks like this...

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I forgot all about that weird 3-pixel rounding thing they did on the top corners. It always seemed to feel slightly...off.

Also...wow Yosemite looks better than I remembered.

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was this modern?


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We don't like to talk about that.

 

[ttss6]

I hope next year that will have a public beta program for iOS 9! I've got an old iPhone 5 to play with it now that the 6+ is my main and favorite phone

 

[Belmont31R]

i love Apple, the day I eary retired from IBM I bought my first Mac, an LC, I'm on my 8th, a mid 2011 27 inch iMac. Since installing the 1st public beta I have had nothing but wifi and Bluetooth problems. When my wife plugs her iPhone 5s into our Time Capsule USB port to charge it the blue tooth starts acting flaky, suddenly scrolling down becomes what a pinch motion outward does. Click on a link in the address bar and now it opens a new window. Keep trying to use it and suddenly you can't type. In earlier iterations I could not use my wireless printer at all. Had to shut my iMac off and print from my iPad air or switch off the wireless on the printer and use a cable, but hey then Bluetooth would break again and the keyboard and track pad would not respond, OMG I am embarrassed what they've done.

Today I took my iMac into my local Apple Store to have the Super Drive replaced and offered to show the Genius how it fails. He's heard about it and tested the iMac with a wired keyboard and mouse. I'm having them wipe my drive and install Mavericks back on. I'll stay wth Mavericks a good long while as its UI is far easier for me to see, I'm legally blind and that thinner more whatever look make my computer very hard on the eyes to use. Next time there's Public Beta software come out I'll watch from the sidelines.

Hope you all get your issues fixed, can't wait to get my old iMac working right again

Then go back to Mavericks and stop using beta software if you're having so many problems.

 

[Parasprite]

Man, those folder icons are ugly. Even if they tried, they could not make them more ugly. Looks like something from Windows XP.

Also hope the app-specific folders go away soon, or can be hidden. I organise my files according to context, not app.

I love them, the whole interface reminds me of what certain Linux distros looked like back when I actually cared about Linux...you know...except without the fear of rebooting.

i love Apple, the day I eary retired from IBM I bought my first Mac, an LC, I'm on my 8th, a mid 2011 27 inch iMac. Since installing the 1st public beta I have had nothing but wifi and Bluetooth problems. When my wife plugs her iPhone 5s into our Time Capsule USB port to charge it the blue tooth starts acting flaky, suddenly scrolling down becomes what a pinch motion outward does. Click on a link in the address bar and now it opens a new window. Keep trying to use it and suddenly you can't type. In earlier iterations I could not use my wireless printer at all. Had to shut my iMac off and print from my iPad air or switch off the wireless on the printer and use a cable, but hey then Bluetooth would break again and the keyboard and track pad would not respond, OMG I am embarrassed what they've done.

Today I took my iMac into my local Apple Store to have the Super Drive replaced and offered to show the Genius how it fails. He's heard about it and tested the iMac with a wired keyboard and mouse. I'm having them wipe my drive and install Mavericks back on. I'll stay wth Mavericks a good long while as its UI is far easier for me to see, I'm legally blind and that thinner more whatever look make my computer very hard on the eyes to use. Next time there's Public Beta software come out I'll watch from the sidelines.

Hope you all get your issues fixed, can't wait to get my old iMac working right again

Hi friend, I'm sorry to see you have so many problems.
Best of luck to you.

 

[Erastopic]

Stop bitching about the new UI already..

It's happening, it's here and it's Apple's new UI design choice for everything, from OS X to iOS and now soon all the way to Apple TV. Bitching about it will hardly change anything.

It's one of those things you either deal with or not. We are not in the Steve Jobs era anymore and that should be pretty noticeable for any Apple fan. But if you don't deal with it, don't whine about it.

Who knows, maybe in 3-4 years Apple will move away from this design choice and go over to something else.. We never know. OS designs changes all the time.

 

[cRuNcHiE]

Just installed it on my 2013 retina macbook pro 13".

I was a bit anxious as have read a lot of people say the animations were slow/choppy but for me it is now much smooth compared to Mavericks.

 

[sk1wbw]

So after a few hours with about 4 different web browsers, it seems that whatever memory leak has been fixed. Finally.

 

[harrisondavies]

The only bug i want fixing is Quick Look's inability to display images 80% of the time (rough estimate). Otherwise I like the smoothness of Beta 6 and quite happy with speed and heat generated.

 

[576316]

It worries me that Time Machine is STILL a buggy mess.

I cannot be the only one who's seeing all these UI and performance issues with Time Machine under Yosemite.

 

[deviant]

It's not about what Apple wants, it's about what is best for me.

It's not just the iOS issue. Apple's software has been rubbish for years and there's no way I am installing OS X on my machines on day 1.

I'm not shallow. I rely on my computers for work. I'll wait before I install it until I'm sure they haven't screwed it up with any major issues. Because that's just common sense.

Sorry for your problems, I haven't had any with any major release. I must be doing something right. I am only with apple because of, actually, software. If it's been rubbish for years i really don't know why are you continuing using it and why are you even here.

 

[Steve121178]

Sorry for your problems, I haven't had any with any major release. I must be doing something right. I am only with apple because of, actually, software.

Other people don't just use Facebook and Safari all day long so you probably haven't noticed.

 

[wizard]

It doesn't look modern at all. Unless 2005 is now considered "modern".

A guy would have to be very wimpy to get wrapped up in the look of Mac OS###. It is the functionality that is important.