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Apple Releases the MacBook Pro

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I like 'em

I reckon the MacBook is pretty awesome for Apple's first Intel notebook. And we've only just begun!

Think what treats the next few revisions are going to bring :D :D
 
MattG said:
I'm not that worried about getting a Rev. A MacBook. The reason being, every "Rev. A" Apple product I ever owned that did have problems were of a physical nature. My TiBook that got keyboard imprints on the screen and chipped paint. My AlBook 15" 1.25ghz that went through three repairs before the "white spots" problem (caused by bad screen enclosures supposedly) went away. The guts inside this machine are new, but the body is essentially the same. I'm probably wrong for thinking this way, but that's how I see it.
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And as of late, Apple has been very good about taking care of these problems. IMO: New Parts and recalls = a good way to refresh your machine after 6 months :)
 
zync said:
Firewire HDs count a hell of a lot when you're trying to run files through FCP on it thank you very much. And while we're at it my FW800 gets well over 50MB/s which is over the limit of the most efficient FW400 in existence.

Also, considering that there are HD cameras that have FW800 interfaces it becomes really important to professionals in the field.

We're not saying the computer sucks, we're saying it's LACKING. It's not lacking speed, it's lacking features we were used to having on "outdated" models.
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well said friend

although we are simply going to be called whiners, i welcome you to the struggle.
 
dontmatter said:
What will happen in a year? Apple will have better specs for the dollar, Acer will have better specs for the dollar, and apple will still be more expensive. If you want a new computer, buy one. If not, don't. This is the perfect time to buy, though, because you know the next rev is probably a ways off.
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I say it again though, I'd hope that they don't take features away this time...
- battery life
- PCMCIA slot
- FW 800
- DL drive
- 8x DVD burner
 
SiliconAddict said:
Actually I may have flopped with my concern on the battery.

Jade at Macworld: MacBook Pro battery life meh


3 hours on the readout? I hope this is simply with brightness at 100%, wireless turned on, and the CPU set to full. :eek: think calm thoughts. It’s a preproduction model. There is still tweaking left to do. *breaths into a bag*
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I'm crossing my fingers for you... and hope that this was only an unoptimized battery. But considering there is NO battery info it doesn't look promising.
 
MattG said:
I'm not that worried about getting a Rev. A MacBook. The reason being, every "Rev. A" Apple product I ever owned that did have problems were of a physical nature. My TiBook that got keyboard imprints on the screen and chipped paint. My AlBook 15" 1.25ghz that went through three repairs before the "white spots" problem (caused by bad screen enclosures supposedly) went away. The guts inside this machine are new, but the body is essentially the same. I'm probably wrong for thinking this way, but that's how I see it.
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I think you've just been unlucky.. I went with the G3 ibook rev a and 17" PBook rev a and never had an issue. having said that I have ordered the MacBook Pro and must say that a little bit of me is nervous. The truth is that I am a heavy iPhoto user and can no longer bare the time it takes to do things. I will therefore be one of the early Xbenchers and will probably report on issues.

As if to affirm my anxiety it worries me that apple still offer the 15" PBook. OK there is a proce difference but their website claims up to 4x faster (almost certainly an untruth) so why keep the PBook? Anyone that can come up with a reason that allways my fears would be good.
 
I was completely right.

Okay, I normally wouldn't gloat about being right. But I was. Not only was I right about the PowerBook coming before the iBook, but I was right about the name change. I was also correct about the iMac. I rule.

But back to Earth and my normally humble self... I ordered my MacBook Pro 1.83 model stock, except for a 7200 rpm HD. Can't wait. I'll be sure to post my impressions!
 
Diatribe said:
I'm crossing my fingers for you... and hope that this was only an unoptimized battery. But considering there is NO battery info it doesn't look promising.
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There's one thing for certain .... it won't be WORSE than the current G4 PowerBooks. They only last about 3 hours, or about one DVD. And, yes, the brightness of the screen is a major factor in the battery life (it consumes some crazy percentage of the power from the battery.)

My guess is that there is a little bit of final tweaking, but that it's on par with what is out there now.

I'll let you all know when mine comes.
 
Frobozz said:
There's one thing for certain .... it won't be WORSE than the current G4 PowerBooks. They only last about 3 hours, or about one DVD. And, yes, the brightness of the screen is a major factor in the battery life (it consumes some crazy percentage of the power from the battery.)

My guess is that there is a little bit of final tweaking, but that it's on par with what is out there now.

I'll let you all know when mine comes.
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That'd be nice. The things that worry me are the huge AC consumption 85W compared to 60W of the G4 PB's AC and the much brighter screen. I guess we'll see. I wish you guys all the luck. :)
 
Diatribe said:
That'd be nice. The things that worry me are the huge AC consumption 85W compared to 60W of the G4 PB's AC and the much brighter screen. I guess we'll see. I wish you guys all the luck. :)
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You know what comes to mind? My PSP. When it's plugged in, you can turn up the brightness on the screen an extra interval for a super-bright screen. When it's powered off the battery it can't use that extra step.

I wonder if there's something to that? They said that the screen is as bright as a cinema display. I can't imagine that makes a lot of sense when it's running off the battery...
 
jlewis2k1 said:
which i personally find that this new laptop is a rip off.
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so I guess you also think the PowerBook is a Rip Off x2. I think it is a phenominal upgrade, although I think a few small additions would appease sceptics.
 
SiliconAddict said:
I HIGHLY doubt Apple has told anyone anything in regards to battery life. they are still tweaking the BIOS/OS/Battery Firmware. That is prob the main reason they don't have anything on their site yet. It would be stupid to post something if a simple tweak here a tweak there could change that by 10%. So your Apple store reps and phone support reps are prob pulling these numbers out of thin air.
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not to mention as I stated earlier there is good possibility that they don't actually have the final batteries yet either...they aren't available for add-on yet (lithium-polymers anyway only lithium ion)
 
Finally!!!

I am thrilled with the new changes and the name and have one on order.
My only regret is no cosmetic changes.
Anyone else agree??
 
staceydock said:
I am thrilled with the new changes and the name and have one on order.
My only regret is no cosmetic changes.
Anyone else agree??
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I'd like to have seen a snazzy new design... even though I like the current design.

I think Apple knew the Powerbook was begging for an upgrade though so they've got one out there as soon as they were able.

I'd expect to see cosmetic changes in future models.

I think it's an exciting time for Apple. After what seems like an age of stagnating, they now have scope to make the fastest machines again and I really look forward to seeing what they have planned for the rest of the year.
 
I still think its priced too high but its an apple. Also confirms the fact how junk a PowerPC chip is to the Intels. hehe
 
I still have my Mac fear from my iPod.

I have a gen 2 iPod and then BOOM! they change the connector interface for the iPod from firewire on top to a dock on the bottom and everyone with old ones are left totally out in the dust for ALL new things for it.

I can't wait for them to change the iPod connections again so everyone with a current gen is left completely out for all further advancements.

Imagine.. having to upgrade your BMW because the iPod dock is out of date. That's what it's getting to with these Apple products.



That said I still want a Macbook.
 
iJaz said:
I agree withe the different part, it's a sad day for Mac users.

As for the LCD bezel, I also found it fugly. It's also the main reason that I don't like the look of the iMacs.
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macidiot said:
lmao, maybe its because its late but I found your post hilarious. :D

I think MacBook Pro is awful. As I said in another post, its sounds like what a clueless windows user would call a powerbook.

PowerBook, ProBook, PowerProBook, all sound better than macbook pro.
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Thanks for the support!
 
groovebuster said:
Still! The PowerBook owners in need of a "real" FW800-port are not many. How many people do HD video editing on their PowerBook/Macbook? And don't tell me it is the majority, because it is not! For those who really need FW800, check this out:

http://www.xterasys.com/e94b.htm

I find it totally OK that Apple is concentrating on the features the majority might need and is trying to avoid a feature overload leading to a cluttered design. The ExpressCard port is there for a reason. And if you have the cash to buy HD video equipment anyway, the 100.-$ for a decent FW800 card with two(!!!) FW800 ports, giving you the option to connect a fast external disk AND a HD Video Camera at once.... and you still have the onboard FW port for something else.

I know many people with PowerBooks and the majority just doesn't need a FW800 port.

Regards,

groovebuster
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Umm, read up a bit, I said the majority don't use it. I did say, though, that just because the majority doesn't use it doesn't mean that it should be left out for those that do.

Would you call the current PowerBook cluttered? No? Then how can keeping an existing feature clutter the design of the " "Book Pro?
 
Frobozz said:
You know what comes to mind? My PSP. When it's plugged in, you can turn up the brightness on the screen an extra interval for a super-bright screen. When it's powered off the battery it can't use that extra step.

I wonder if there's something to that? They said that the screen is as bright as a cinema display. I can't imagine that makes a lot of sense when it's running off the battery...
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Yeah, that might be that way. It just looks really bad that Apple didn't advertise battery life at all. We'll see, but it's weird since I always thought that Yonah actually consumes less energy.
As I said in the other thread, I still think that this book is a beta test for the real product line, thus only a 15" at the moment. There'll be an entire line of them when Merom comes out.
 
The MacBook Pro and iMac is a good start. I wont be buying one since my PowerMac is still more power than I need. I was hoping for a Mac Mini w/ DVR and Front Row but you can't have everything. All in all, it was a good keynote.
 
Frobozz said:
... I ordered my MacBook Pro 1.83 model stock, except for a 7200 rpm HD. Can't wait. I'll be sure to post my impressions!
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I got the same config. What else is there to upgrade unless you want 2GBs of iRam :p

I think that model is actually a pretty good value over the entry considering
+ harddrive
+ ram
+ graphics card
+ processor
 
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