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Apple Releases the MacBook Pro

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Counter said:
Who needs expensive blu-ray drives and ultra pricey media when you can just use 5 standard dvd's?

;)
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Um...how about HD content! ;)

Blu-Ray-ROM would be sweet (and possible/affordable by the end of the year), but DL DVD burners aren't really that necessary until the media comes down... i mean DL's low price is $1.72/per on Newegg and SL's are ~$.35 thats almost 5x the price for 2x storage
 
gwangung said:
Hm. Aren't the new hard drive and the expresscard going to have a lot greater impact on speed and "snappiness" than people think, since so much of the system relies on swapping to disk? And wouldn't that be a good tradeoff for some of the other losses to the system?
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Yeah, I wrote about the Expresscard 15 pages ago but most people aren't really reading the entire thread! And of course the entire motherboard is built around this new, faster architecture...

A lot of people here don't get that hard drive technology is also on the move, and that the "flexibility" of the Expresscard will allow us both to access older FW technologies as well as access newer serial HD setups. The Expresscard interface is allows 2.5 Gigabits (over 300 MB) per second, so there should be plenty of room to grow.

"The ExpressCard product specification was developed as the next-generation PC card by the PCMCIA standards organization. ExpressCard products will be compatible with advanced serial bus technologies including USB and PCI Express. The new ExpressCard products will be available in two standard card sizes. Express Card 34 and Express Card 54 will both fit into a universal slot with one common connector size. The new specification provides the proven reliability and ease of use of the PC Card form factor while offering faster performance and ease of use.

The connector is a "beam-on-blade" design that provides low cost and reliable performance. The interconnection system includes a 26-position card connector and a surface mount, 26-position right angle host connector. The connector system is designed for 10,000 mating cycle durability on the card and 5,000 cycles on the host. Tyco Electronics contributed both mechanical and electrical engineering input during the development phase of the new specification. The connectors are compliant to the current specification Revision 1.0 of the Express Card Standard. The Express Card host interface supports a PCI Express single lane (x1) operating at 2.5 Gigabits/second as defined by the PCI Express Base Specification and low, full, and high-speed USB as defined by the USB 2.0 Specification.

Applications for the new ExpressCard products include wireless and wired communications cards, rotating and solid state storage devices, optical and magnetic micro drives, and a variety of I/O, security, and flash memory cards."

Quote source: http://www.tycoelectronics.com/prodnews.asp?ID=538
 
SiliconAddict said:
On a small sidenote does anyone else think Apple's *vomits a little bit* MacBook Pro Site Sucks?

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Note that I'm using FireFox 1.0.4 but still. This IMHO shouldn't be happening.
Sure it looks teh sexy but I've seen better sites designed by teenagers. :rolleyes:
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On Safari it all looks great! Then again, it would :p - by the way, in testing I've done, Safari loads pages faster than Firefox does...
 
To the commentor on how "foolish" it is to buy the Yonah PB - there will ALWAYS be something coming down the road - enjoy your life while you live it. I assume you're the type of person to be driving a car 20 years old because every year a new car comes out you say to yourself "I'll just wait until we have fusion powered vehicles - buying a gasoline vehicle is foolish"! Sure it's an exaggeration - but the fact remains. Enjoy what you can get now, now that isn't available.:rolleyes:
 
SiliconAddict said:
On a small sidenote does anyone else think Apple's *vomits a little bit* MacBook Pro Site Sucks?

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Note that I'm using FireFox 1.0.4 but still. This IMHO shouldn't be happening.
Sure it looks teh sexy but I've seen better sites designed by teenagers. :rolleyes:
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LMAO I thought it was not tested with firefox, because it does look like ****. Looks like they slapped it together durning the keynote. I expect better quality control from Apple, let's hope that the MacBook Pros weren't slapped together so quickly.

If people want to judge sites harshly that only render correctly in IE (rightfully so to blast these sites) then Apple should be subject to the same criticism here. And here I was thinking that only Microsoft would be arrogent enough to make a website that only renders correctly with their propritary web browser...
 
mongoos150 said:
To the commentor on how "foolish" it is to buy the Yonah PB - there will ALWAYS be something coming down the road - enjoy your life while you live it. I assume you're the type of person to be driving a car 20 years old because every year a new car comes out you say to yourself "I'll just wait until we have fusion powered vehicles - buying a gasoline vehicle is foolish"! Sure it's an exaggeration - but the fact remains. Enjoy what you can get now, now that isn't available.:rolleyes:
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That's right brotha. Buy it now, because "you can't take it with you"!!

P.S. Wait until next year when the 64-bit Dual Core "Merom" goes into these babies. :D ;)
 
So what units are we using to determine a "speed increase" here. The MacBook Pro is 5x baseline? Ummm ok. What is this "performance per watt" crap? Talk about putting great spin on your products. I've read no press release that challenges the relavance of Apple's claim whatsoever. Boggles the mind.

They should be using DBs to measure performance increase. (Dock Bounces) :p

Steve Jobs: We reported an average decrease of 3 DBs in the new Intel Macs. (cheers and applause explode from the crowd)
 
SiliconAddict said:
hehe I don't have a choice at work and my PowerBook* hasn't shown up at home. Even then I wouldn't touch Safari. I <3 my FireFox extensions and themes.
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Be prepaired to be dissappointed with FireFox on Mac. It's a little sluggish compaired to it's PC counterpart. :eek:
 
Yes it is - which is why I use FireFox on my old Dell (on the occasion I boot it up) and Safari on my PB. :)
 
Randall said:
Awesome. I thought they were still beta testing deer park though?
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We are..There's only one bug I know of and it's Adobe/Macromedia's problem..

Flash crashes Deer Park..[edit] this flash plug-in may have been fixed in 10.4.4 [/edit] I'll let ya know soon as I get the Intel iMac

Adobe is working on a fix however.
 
Corrections to my Acer specifications (well sort of additions mainly):

Screen res: 1680x1050
Graphics: X1600 - but it's only 256MB dedicated, 512MB shared

More information about the Acer Travelmate

According to that, it also has: optional PCI Express based dock, MediaBay allows upgrading of DVD / HDD / Battery as demands require, ExpressCard/34 and PC Card Type II slots, anti-shock / motion sensor.

It even ships with WinXP Pro.

Sure, MacOS X is nice, as is Apple software. And we don't know what the cooling is like. But in EVERY numeric specification, the Acer has the MacBook equalled or beat, for the same/lower price. That is a pretty hard slap, and with no excuses - at least in the past we could say it ran faster / cooler / quieter / better battery life (as appropriate).
 
Peace said:
We are..There's only one bug I know of and it's Adobe/Macromedia's problem..

Flash crashes Deer Park..

Adobe is working on a fix however.
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Awesome that's great news. I love Firefox, and now I won't have to leave my extensions (del.icio.us, foxylicious, dict, etc.) :)
 
grahamtriggs said:
Corrections to my Acer specifications (well sort of additions mainly):

Screen res: 1680x1050
Graphics: X1600 - but it's only 256MB dedicated, 512MB shared

More information about the Acer Travelmate

According to that, it also has: optional PCI Express based dock, MediaBay allows upgrading of DVD / HDD / Battery as demands require, ExpressCard/34 and PC Card Type II slots, anti-shock / motion sensor.

It even ships with WinXP Pro.

Sure, MacOS X is nice, as is Apple software. And we don't know what the cooling is like. But in EVERY numeric specification, the Acer has the MacBook equalled or beat, for the same/lower price. That is a pretty hard slap, and with no excuses - at least in the past we could say it ran faster / cooler / quieter / better battery life (as appropriate).
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you're comparing the top of the line 20" Acer to the middle of the road 15" MacBook Pro right?

I mean we haven't seen the new 17" (or maybe even 20 ) MacBook Pro yet.

And I fail to see the WinXP point..
 
grahamtriggs said:
Corrections to my Acer specifications (well sort of additions mainly):

Screen res: 1680x1050
Graphics: X1600 - but it's only 256MB dedicated, 512MB shared

More information about the Acer Travelmate

According to that, it also has: optional PCI Express based dock, MediaBay allows upgrading of DVD / HDD / Battery as demands require, ExpressCard/34 and PC Card Type II slots, anti-shock / motion sensor.

It even ships with WinXP Pro.

Sure, MacOS X is nice, as is Apple software. And we don't know what the cooling is like. But in EVERY numeric specification, the Acer has the MacBook equalled or beat, for the same/lower price. That is a pretty hard slap, and with no excuses - at least in the past we could say it ran faster / cooler / quieter / better battery life (as appropriate).
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*sighs* :rolleyes: Some people get it. Some people don't. You, obviously don't. As has been stated time and again this isn't a pissing contest. If you want your hummer go ahead and buy one. I’ll stick with Apple’s Prius.
 
Forgive me if this question has been asked, but has anyone said anything about the heat issue of these new books? Additionally, will the Apple stores have display models in house for pre-ordering before general shipping?
 
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