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sphereboy said:
and it definately fits in a carry on luggage for easy portability.:rolleyes:

Indeed. I ordered a laptop because I love the portability of it. Since this is my first Mac, I want to be able to take it with me to mess around on and get the hang of before I change out my primary desktop computer with a Mac... and since the MBP will be my primary computer for the next couple months until I graduate college (and probably still after then) it'll last me quite a while until the PowerMacs get Intel chips and I can get something cool. But even once I do get a desktop Mac, I'll still use the laptop a whole lot. I find myself using my laptop more than my desktop these days.
 
Hi there, not currently an Apple user but intrigued by them and looking into possibly getting one. My big question is, and this may not be the place for it let alone may not be able to get any type of answer at all lol. The thing is I'm curious as to if any of you guy's think BestBuy would be selling it on their website (they've been selling ibooks and powerbooks for a while, and are now selling the last of thier stock of their powerbooks) do you forsee them picking up the new laptops? and if so do you think it will be delayed for them to have stock of em?

The reason is the notebook i'm using now is screwing up and it will be the fourth time taking it in so on their no lemon policy they jsut replace, and i'm thinking about jsut paying some extra $$ and converting to apple if i can expect to see them getting the macbook pro.

my apologies for the long post, if anyone has any thougths or suggestions as to where i might find this kind of info it would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks again,
Adam
 
schein said:
Hi there, not currently an Apple user but intrigued by them and looking into possibly getting one. My big question is, and this may not be the place for it let alone may not be able to get any type of answer at all lol. The thing is I'm curious as to if any of you guy's think BestBuy would be selling it on their website (they've been selling ibooks and powerbooks for a while, and are now selling the last of thier stock of their powerbooks) do you forsee them picking up the new laptops? and if so do you think it will be delayed for them to have stock of em?

The reason is the notebook i'm using now is screwing up and it will be the fourth time taking it in so on their no lemon policy they jsut replace, and i'm thinking about jsut paying some extra $$ and converting to apple if i can expect to see them getting the macbook pro.

my apologies for the long post, if anyone has any thougths or suggestions as to where i might find this kind of info it would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks again,
Adam


My guess is you'd have to talk to BestBuy to know this for sure (unless someone here works there and knows?). I actually didn't know that they sold Apply products other than iPods, so that's interesting news to me. I would imagine, though, that if they sell iBooks and Powerbooks, then they'd of course pick up the MacBook Pro once it's out in full force. I tend to think that if they're not taking pre-orders, then they won't offer them until they're actually out. I do know that Amazon is taking pre-orders for the MacBook Pro and has a $150 mail-in rebate for it, which isn't too bad. Here's some info on it: http://dealmac.com/articles/107996.html
I don't know if Amazon has a similar policy, but I know they've always been a pleasure to work with in my experience.
 
elbirth said:
My guess is you'd have to talk to BestBuy to know this for sure (unless someone here works there and knows?). I actually didn't know that they sold Apply products other than iPods, so that's interesting news to me. I would imagine, though, that if they sell iBooks and Powerbooks, then they'd of course pick up the MacBook Pro once it's out in full force. I tend to think that if they're not taking pre-orders, then they won't offer them until they're actually out. I do know that Amazon is taking pre-orders for the MacBook Pro and has a $150 mail-in rebate for it, which isn't too bad. Here's some info on it: http://dealmac.com/articles/107996.html
I don't know if Amazon has a similar policy, but I know they've always been a pleasure to work with in my experience.

yeah actually the more I research it the more it looks likely bc they are only sold out of their imacs and powerbook 15 inch i.e. probably making room for new models I'd say?
and yeah i would so go somewhere else if i were to buy, but i'm hoping to exchange the crap of a computer i have now for one lol, (crosses fingers)
 
Maybe it's just because I'm a poor college student, but I would LOVE to know how some of you people seem to be able to afford a new 2-3k laptop every few months. Come to think of it, I'd also love to know what you do with your (now obsolete) 3-month-old laptops. Does someone buy used powerbooks? And will anyone buy my comparatively ancient one? Or maybe you guys just keep them around as souveneirs? Like you just have these loooong desks that form a timeline of powerbookology, and you just sit at the far right at all times at the newest addition.
 
absurdio said:
Maybe it's just because I'm a poor college student, but I would LOVE to know how some of you people seem to be able to afford a new 2-3k laptop every few months. Come to think of it, I'd also love to know what you do with your (now obsolete) 3-month-old laptops. Does someone buy used powerbooks? And will anyone buy my comparatively ancient one? Or maybe you guys just keep them around as souveneirs? Like you just have these loooong desks that form a timeline of powerbookology, and you just sit at the far right at all times at the newest addition.

It's called debt. ;)
 
absurdio said:
Maybe it's just because I'm a poor college student, but I would LOVE to know how some of you people seem to be able to afford a new 2-3k laptop every few months. Come to think of it, I'd also love to know what you do with your (now obsolete) 3-month-old laptops. Does someone buy used powerbooks? And will anyone buy my comparatively ancient one? Or maybe you guys just keep them around as souveneirs? Like you just have these loooong desks that form a timeline of powerbookology, and you just sit at the far right at all times at the newest addition.

You're making a huge assumption that everyone buys new computers every few months. I know plenty of people that only buy them every few years, and for me personally, the MacBook Pro is my first Apple computer.
And yes, people do buy used computers all the time. Do you use eBay? Even really old computers are constantly being sold. I've tried for months to buy a really old PC laptop to build a digital picture frame out of, and I just can't seem to get one (even a 166MHz computer) for under $100 or so.

Just buy a new computer and be pleasurably in debt like the rest of us :)
 
absurdio said:
Maybe it's just because I'm a poor college student, but I would LOVE to know how some of you people seem to be able to afford a new 2-3k laptop every few months. Come to think of it, I'd also love to know what you do with your (now obsolete) 3-month-old laptops. Does someone buy used powerbooks? And will anyone buy my comparatively ancient one? Or maybe you guys just keep them around as souveneirs? Like you just have these loooong desks that form a timeline of powerbookology, and you just sit at the far right at all times at the newest addition.


I suspect that in many cases people sell off their earlier PBs or iBooks or iMacs in order to be able to afford the newest versions. ?? There's friends and relatives, there's eBay, there's used computer shops.... ?? I am a fairly new switcher, having bought my first Mac, a Rev B iMac, from the local Apple store, at the time that the Rev C (iSight camera-equipped) iMac was coming out. Saved myself a little money and got the machine that I wanted. Later I bought a PB when changes were announced to the PB line..... I needed a new laptop and had already decided that I was committed to OS X and the way a Mac works. Now, just a few months later, suddenly here we are with new iterations of both machines available (or soon to be). Am I rushing to replace my two computers because now suddenly they're "obsolete?" No way! I'm neither adding to my small collection of Apple computers nor selling off my older machines in order to be able to use the newest technology.

I have to admit that it's tempting when looking at the new machines (I saw them both at MacWorld earlier this month and then the new iMac later in my local Apple store) to want to grab one, but the reality is, both of my machines are still new(ish) and both are functioning just fine and doing what I need them to do. That said, if I had a much older iMac or much older PB or were looking into buying a Mac for the first time, I wouldn't hesitate to go ahead and buy one of these new intel-based Macs. If finances were an issue, I'd go ahead and sell off my elderly machine in order to get a new one.... But, yes, this is only one scenario. Some people bought a new iMac just around Christmastime. In another scenario there are those who feel dissatisfied with their machines which are only three, four or five months old and who want to have the newest thing coming down the pike. Have to admit, if I'd just bought my iMac at Christmastime and then only a few days later Apple was announcing the new intel version of the iMac, I'd be royally pissed off. If I had bought an iMac or PB in November or December and then learned about the intel thing, I'd be concerned about whether or not I'd made a smart purchase.

A lot depends upon what you're going to use your computer to do, and if you're going to be using it for "pro" applications such as Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Final Cut and whatever, then for the moment you're actually better off using one of the earlier iMacs or PBs because of the current inavailability of many applications running on "native" universal binary..... If, on the other hand, you're just going to be using your new iMac or PB for basic funcions, all of which are provided by the current Apple software that is in each new iMac or MacBook Pro, then you're good to go....

Where do people get the money to buy the latest? Well, where there is a will there is a way, and for some people it is really important to have the newest technology.... Everyone has different priorities and different financial strategies to get what they want....

OTB
 
sphereboy said:
and it definately fits in a carry on luggage for easy portability.:rolleyes:

The portability isn't nearly as important to me as much better performance, storage, screen size, everything...The only advantage is portability...I may sell the iMac when the rumored new MBPs come out late this year/early next year.
 
Randall said:
I agree. I think they could have gone with the higher speed yonahs. All I can think is that they will update them soon and hopefully often.

i agree to that too.
and why the heck is it so exspensive? just because its a titanium design? it is a beautiful maching but its far from pro sitting at 1.6 at that price.
it frustrates me so effing much because i want that beautiful desgin. the elegance of the OS, but its just not powerful enough

once again. im waiting.
here we go.
 
To buy or not to buy...

I'd love to pony up for a new MacBook, but its inability to run Virtual PC to provide cross platform capability is a deal-breaker. I need to run the MS version of Office because the Mac version isn't as good w/Pivot Tables (try formatting them...not!).

I need to run Virtual PC, but Rosetta won't run it. Does everyone understand this? I'm waiting until either 1. Rosetta can run Virtual PC or 2. I can boot a Windows OS on MacBook. At this point, I have to wait. Until then, I'm perfectly happy with my Powerbook 1.67 G4.
 
direzz said:
i agree to that too.
and why the heck is it so exspensive? just because its a titanium design? it is a beautiful maching but its far from pro sitting at 1.6 at that price.
it frustrates me so effing much because i want that beautiful desgin. the elegance of the OS, but its just not powerful enough

once again. im waiting.
here we go.

By the way, current PowerBooks and MBPs are aluminum, not titanium. Apple hasn't sold titanium laptops for over two years now. Titanium laptops were painted and the paint was notorious for coming off under normal use.
 
absurdio said:
Maybe it's just because I'm a poor college student, but I would LOVE to know how some of you people seem to be able to afford a new 2-3k laptop every few months. Come to think of it, I'd also love to know what you do with your (now obsolete) 3-month-old laptops. Does someone buy used powerbooks? And will anyone buy my comparatively ancient one? Or maybe you guys just keep them around as souveneirs? Like you just have these loooong desks that form a timeline of powerbookology, and you just sit at the far right at all times at the newest addition.

Yeah, Macs hold a good resale value making upgrading not too hard.
 
DaveClarkOne said:
I'd love to pony up for a new MacBook, but its inability to run Virtual PC to provide cross platform capability is a deal-breaker. I need to run the MS version of Office because the Mac version isn't as good w/Pivot Tables (try formatting them...not!).

I need to run Virtual PC, but Rosetta won't run it. Does everyone understand this? I'm waiting until either 1. Rosetta can run Virtual PC or 2. I can boot a Windows OS on MacBook. At this point, I have to wait. Until then, I'm perfectly happy with my Powerbook 1.67 G4.
Microsoft has said they will produce an Intel-native version of VPC, which should run a hell of a lot faster than the current PPC version of VPC since it won't need to emulate an x86 processor.
 
zync said:
By the way, current PowerBooks and MBPs are aluminum, not titanium. Apple hasn't sold titanium laptops for over two years now. Titanium laptops were painted and the paint was notorious for coming off under normal use.
its still ridiuclously expensive.
 
Buying options!

Guyz any of u know if Apple offers to buy these Gazettes (PB, MBP) in form of some instalment? I mean for someone sitting in Germany, if want to have the one, can afford it? The point is that, if answer is NO then I have to wait nearly 6 months to make a ballance to buy it :confused: :mad: :(

Also I am yet student and if there are some student offer. I checked and found that something that I want to have in a MBP can be nearly 3.300,00 euros.

looking for some suggestions---
 
direzz said:
its still ridiuclously expensive.

It's paid off for me. I currently work on my computer from home, and the knowledge I've gained from using Mac OS has landed me an internship that pays me pretty well. I've stopped working retail for good. I have an impressive resumé and I'm still a year off from graduating with my B.F.A. I don't know about you, but that's definitely worth the $2,300 I paid for my PowerBook.
 
I think the base MacBook is reasonably competitive on price -- compared to a PC, the modest premium and the skinflint base memory is offset by the software and the display.

The premium model, on the other hand, is going to be a huge profit generator for Apple; the upgrades really are exorbitant. $500 breaks down as follows -- $200 upgrade for switching from 512MB to 1GB of RAM, which is more than the entire retail cost of the module (and that's assuming Apple is using premium brands like Micron or Samsung); $100 for the hard drive upgrade, when Dell charges $38 for the same upgrade (80GB to 100GB); $100 for the VRAM; and $100 for the boost in processor, when Intel's list price difference to manufacturers is $51 and the actual unit price on a large quanitity is probably $5-$10 less than that.

I would conservatively guess that of the $500 total upgrade, at least half of it is profit; probably more like $300. It is certainly far above the price of a comparable upgrade package on any PC laptop.

The catch for consumers is the cost of upgrading after the fact. Apple, not for the first time, seems to be leveraging this conundrum. I'm curious as to why other PC manufacturers haven't tried it, and hopeful that Apple will fail at this and fall into line with the industry standard.
 
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