Apple Releases Third Public Betas of iOS 13 and iPadOS

[Jim Lahey]

Beta 3 continues to improve stability for me. My main gripe is that text/cursor selection/placing is still incredibly unreliable and pernickety. I hope this is just because it’s still in beta, but I fear not. Personally I found the original, looking-glass system far easier to use.

 

[Eric draven]

Why even have a separate dev and public beta if there's only 1 day difference in release.

The public beta is actually one behind the dev beta is 4 and public is 3

 

[Alfieg]

One option we should have is the ability to just say "Siri". "Hey Siri" gets old fast and most people don't have family or friends named Siri. E.g. Saying "Siri what time is it" is much better than "Hey Siri what time is it"

Yes, and we Brits feel weird saying "Hey". That is just not part of how we communicate here. It seems odd to use a greeting colloquial to the US and I'm sure it's one of the reasons nobody in the UK would ever use Siri in public.

 

[RickDEGH]

Skeuomorphism is really coming back. Look at the texture in that background.

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Jony Ive is leaving and Forstall has the last laugh.

If I’m right, that has always been there - background texture for the Notes & Reminders apps. Unless you’re seeing it elsewhere.

 

[lancehol]

Not too many problems overall on all products. The most issues I've had are on MacOS. On the previous release I had issues with Pages and TextEdit stalling my laptop but if I waited long enough they would load and I could use them but very slowly. I sent in a report on it. Well, when they released the 4th Developer Beta the update showed up and I installed it discovering right afterward I had installed the Developer Beta. Not sure why it showed up though it happened to me before a couple years ago. I still have a problem with the same two apps but now they won't even load. So I'm going to have to try and trouble shoot and see if I can figure things out. Other than that I've had really no other issues except for Rogue Amoeba product not working and they always take their sweet time before it becomes functional again, usually after the public release. Otherwise mostly stable. I have one app on iOS that won't load, nothing on iPadOS, and nothing on tvOS. FWIW.

 

[brilliantthings]

Damn... Where did the open in new tab option go in safari?
Kind of breaks a major part of safari - hope it's a bug and not on purpose!

I agree. This is terrible. You can drag the link and drop it in the tab bar

 

[Randyness]

Quick question: Does anyone know how to drag Icons from Homescreen to SplitView? It seems to only work with Apps in the bar but not the Homescreen. Every time I try to grab an icon it enters jiggle mode.

 

[hifimacianer]

Split view just works from the dock, not from apps located on homescreen.
But that's the same behavior like in iOS 12

 

[Randyness]

Split view just works from the dock, not from apps located on homescreen.
But that's the same behavior like in iOS 12

Thanks for your reply. But I have to disagree. I just tried it on another iPad and it definitely worked in iOS 12. You are able to grab an icon with one finger and use another finger to open another app. The App icon was still "under" your other finger and you could just drag it to one side to enter Split Screen.

 

[TrulsZK]

In my opinion this is very stable, and works perfectly fine on my primary device. Almost no bugs at all.

 

[Tommo66]

I've had no MAJOR trouble in the past couple betas. There was a little jankiness with Carplay where it would crash (happened a total of 3 times with me) and a couple of messages crashes in the prior beta. Hopefully things move forward steadily.

1 and 2 iPadOS were fine, have had random wi-fi disconnects and a couple of self power cycles since I installed Beta 3.

 

[DJM1740]

Mail has been giving me horrific issues since pb1. Praying this fixes it

Emails not loading. Blank screens. Not syncing

Same here. I rolled back to iOS 12 because of it on my iPhone XS but left it on my iPad Air. It seems better but I may continue to wait a bit.

 

[hifimacianer]

Thanks for your reply. But I have to disagree. I just tried it on another iPad and it definitely worked in iOS 12. You are able to grab an icon with one finger and use another finger to open another app. The App icon was still "under" your other finger and you could just drag it to one side to enter Split Screen.

Sorry, I wasn‘t aware of this feature in iOS12. My old iPad mini 2 just supported slide over anyway, so I was never able to use splitview before. When I got my iPad pro this week, I installed the beta immediately.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

This release fixed a few issues for me.

 

[onujpt]

Forgive me if it’s been brought up, but anyone else have an issue routing audio through the usb c port? Went to DJ a little party last night only to find out I can only get audio to come out of the main speakers and not through my usb c to audio jack dongle.

 

[ipedro]

Damn... Where did the open in new tab option go in safari?
Kind of breaks a major part of safari - hope it's a bug and not on purpose!

Yup, open in new tab is gone. Clearly an oversight. Meanwhile, tap links with 2 fingers to open in a new tab.

 

[timmyyak]

Anyone else having issues with CarPlay? Newest bug is I cannot use Now Playing. It will either bounce to the main tab of Spotify, or completely go back to the app menu.

 

[blitzwing]

The public beta is actually one behind the dev beta is 4 and public is 3

That’s just their numbering system. Developer Beta 4 and Public Beta 3 are essentially the same build

 

[Hey Now]

Meanwhile, tap links with 2 fingers to open in a new tab.

I didn’t know this trick and I love it. Thanks for mentioning this.

 

[honglong1976]

I just installed. Love dark mode. Health app is finally decent again!

 

[timmywa]

The two Disney apps, for Disneyland and Disney World are really unstable. But Disney was kind enough to put popups all over the app to acknowledge they know it's awful and are working on it. I'm also REALLY pleased that the frustrating LTE signal strength complication on CarPlay STILL doesn't update!! Usually keep my iPhones for two years... not sure this time around. Hopefully the new modems in the 19 phones are better...

 

[mjharwaz]

The public beta is actually one behind the dev beta is 4 and public is 3

Even though they’re numbered different, I’m pretty sure they’re the same beta... public beta didn’t start until dev beta 2 was released therefore public beta 1 is dev beta 2.

 

[DJM1740]

Can I install the latest public beta while keeping my Apple Watch S4 on its current version of watchOS? In other words, I don't have to upgrade to the watchOS beta in order to enjoy iOS 13 beta on my phone and have them work together, right?

from my experience that is correct. I had iOS 13 PB2 but the latest watchOS release and they worked fine together.

 

[DJM1740]

Yup, open in new tab is gone. Clearly an oversight. Meanwhile, tap links with 2 fingers to open in a new tab.

According to the release notes, this is a known issue.

 

[StrongArmmed]

Beta 3 continues to improve stability for me. My main gripe is that text/cursor selection/placing is still incredibly unreliable and pernickety. I hope this is just because it’s still in beta, but I fear not. Personally I found the original, looking-glass system far easier to use.

Yes, that's been a persistent issue for me as well. Trying to get cursor placement just right to edit something has been frustrating.
[doublepost=1563550177][/doublepost]The worst issue I've encountered so far involve third-party apps, Halide and Darkroom. I think there are some framework changes in iOS 13 that have disabled or made unstable, so imaging functionality. I'm eagerly awaiting a resolution to those (admittedly small) issues.