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I am not sure I agree with that statement. Apple make a large chunk of money off the continual upgraded hardware sales. By selling an upgradeable Mac at a somewhat affordable price, end users would stop buying full systems from Apple in the volumes they currently do, and buy parts from 3rd parties which would slow down Apples' sales. Something they don't want. Apple make money on high value, large margin items.

Apple deny plenty from their customers in order to facilitate sales later.

hardware is so cheap it doesn't make sense to upgrade. by the time you finish penny pinching you could have bought a new system every few years for a lot less. the days of treasuring electronics for years are long gone
 
The only thing that's really disappointing with these is the aspect ratio. 16:9 sucks for computers, especially running VM's where you've got all the extra borders from the toolbars.

Ugh. I hate 16:9.
 
Forget BluRay, watch your BD on your home entertainment systems, it's not needed on your computer.

iTunes is currently 720p but that doesn't mean that it will not eventually be 1080p.

Just think of what you would have had to have subtracted in order to make BD an affordable option. It's not worth the cost.

This configuration is smart thinking on Apples part. It has ample power, high quality components, offers value for money, and is environmentally friendly. All of these things are going to make the iMac an incredibly attractive option for people who are needing to upgrade their XP machines and are wary of W7.

Optical drives are going to become increasingly less relevant in time, they just take money away that could be spent on more important components.
 
You appear to underestimate how difficult it is to take an iMac apart.

//edit. Taking it apart really isn't that hard. It's getting it all back together that is the challenge.

Well, I recently upgraded my hard drive in my iMac, and yes it wasn't the most user friendly of upgrades (eek, suction cups to remove the glass - although that was the fun part), but I wasn't sure if Apple solders down the cpu, or something strange like that.

Someone did mention, Apple possibly using a variant of the i7 or i5, which could be used as some sort of lockdown. Guess only time will tell.
 
Damn, this one is pretty nice, like the 27'' iMac.
However, hoped they would give the MacBook Pro an update, what do you think guys, when are they going to update the MacBook Pro?
 
I hate Apple

Until five minutes ago, I loved Apple. Now I hate them. :mad:

Here I was sitting in front of what I thought was the most perfect, most beautiful computer on the planet: 24" iMac 3.06GHz, a computer with everything I need, and then they bring out these two stunners!

Now I need therapy. And I'm sending the bill to Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive!

If you do the math, it's obvious why they went with 21.5" [1920 x 1080] and 27" [2560 x 1440]. Both are perfect for HD.

Michael Dell and everyone at HP just considered suicide - as a very real alternative to going into the office tomorrow! :eek:
 
Can someone pleeeease answer this question for me. I will be eternally grateful and promise to (maybe) raise my kids according to your beliefs, whatever those are. :)

Will it be possible for me to use the 27" iMac as an external monitor (extended desktop) to my MBP (17", santa rosa, June 2007)? Will it be possible to also do this running windows under bootcamp?

Next question: Are you sure?

Thanks!

Not easily, if at all. There are a number of adapters that go from DisplayPort (or mini DisplayPort) to DVI, but not the other way around. I vaguely recall seeing a link to one such device (DVI/HDMI to DP) on this forum a few months ago. However, I think it was a rather large box and it was several hundred dollars and there were no reviews from users. So, for all practical purposes, the answer to your question (at least right now) is no.

:(:(:(
Terrible news. Thanks for replying though.

Is it possible to do the other way around, i.e. can my MBP be used as an external monitor?
 
Ok besides the Bluray, can all you people whining for something inbetween the iMac and Mac Pro now SHUT UP please!!! :p

I think these looks awesome, the only thing I am not sure of yet is how the bottom of the black is a harsh straight line instead of curved edges... The jury is still out on that for me. :D

Also, are they ever going to make the mouse and keyboard black so they match? :confused: The new Magic Mouse would have been HOT in black! :eek:

I also wonder now if they will switch all the products to 16:9 like I predicted and was ridiculed for! :rolleyes: "No, No, No, they do 16:10 because then you have room to work with HD and have the toolbar still:"...... WELL THEY SWITCHED NOW LIKE I SAID!!! :p
 
Forget BluRay, watch your BD on your home entertainment systems, it's not needed on your computer.

iTunes is currently 720p but that doesn't mean that it will not eventually be 1080p.

Just think of what you would have had to have subtracted in order to make BD an affordable option. It's not worth the cost.

This configuration is smart thinking on Apples part. It has ample power, high quality components, offers value for money, and is environmentally friendly. All of these things are going to make the iMac an incredibly attractive option for people who are needing to upgrade their XP machines and are wary of W7.

Optical drives are going to become increasingly less relevant in time, they just take money away that could be spent on more important components.
Sure, iTunes movies in 1080p is not that far away, however you could never compare an iTunes 1080p with Blu-ray seeing as iTunes movies have a waaaaaay lower bit-rate than blu-ray movies.
 
Check the specs of the largest model. It does accept video IN.

Good Find on this. I wonder how you specify this in the setting though. Meaning if the computer is on, how would you tell it to ignore what the imac is sending as switch to being an external monitor. Sorry...i guess i jumped the gun on that one.
 
I don't understand your point. The iMac 27" has a display that can be used by the built-in computer as well as an external video source. So, you basically have a dual monitor setup and you can switch back and forth. That way if you buy a PC or a second machine, you can still use the 27" display for that machine. Or may be you can hook up your bluray player to it. Just get a HDMI to display port adapter - I am sure http://www.monoprice.com sells one.
There is really no such thing as a DVI/HDMI-to-DisplayPort cable (i.e. allow DVI/HDMI signals to input into DisplayPort). In order to go from DVI or HDMI to DisplayPort you need a video converter and those aren't cheap ($150 to $200 U.S.). Thus in order to input HDMI into the new 27" iMac you'd need an HDMI-to-DVI adapter/cable and then connect that to a DVI-to-Mini DisplayPort converter -- total price for that setup around $200.

However, Apple says that an adapter to allow Mini DisplayPort input on the new 27" iMac will be available so perhaps they will allow DVI/HDMI passthrough with their DisplayPort adapter (however, I don't think that will happen, they seem to suggest that it will be DisplayPort only).

In any case, if they do allow DVI/HDMI passthrough over their DisplayPort input adapter then that would mean that the display in the new iMac can handle both DisplayPort and DVI/HDMI signals which would be rather unique (and it would add extra cost to the display).
 
so what intel architecture/processor is the high end 27 inch running? Are these the clarksfeild processors?
 
Even with the 27" iMac? :rolleyes:

Use the video input. Most people with BD have a 40"+ TV to watch their BD on.

If you want to watch it on your iMac that bad, plug it in.

Which of the new features would you have given up, or have downgraded in order to pay for BD licensing on the new iMacs?

BD comes with a ridiculous licensing cost, you're aware of that, right?
 
Buy the 27-inch

I will be purchasing a new iMac.
My budget is about $1750 w/out Apple Protection Plan.
I am really torn between the 21.5 inch with the 3.33 GHZ & 8 GB of RAM or the 27 inch with no upgrades and 3.06 ghz with 4GB of RAM.

As an owner of a 24-inch, I say buy the 27-inch.
As an owner of a 2.8 GHz, I say buy the 27-inch. The 3.06 Core 2 Duo is plenty of horsepower.
As the owner of an iMac with 6 GB of memory, I say buy the 27-inch and add more memory later after the price falls.
 
Okay, well if that was Apple's offensive against the Windows 7 launch, I guess this round goes to Windows 7. Unfortunately, Win 7 is a huge improvement over Vista while these iMacs/Macbooks/Mini's are only mildly interesting due to the inclusion of quad core. At the moment, the increase in screen size is an oddity without at least a Blu-Ray drive to make the most of the 1080p+ resolutions.

The biggest revolution is the Magic Mouse!! But £55???? Ow...that stings.
 
Can't figure out why Apple eliminated the middle of the size range.
Let's explain this one more time.

The 24" iMac had an aspect ratio of 16:10. The new 21.5" iMac has an aspect of 16:19. That means it's a wider aspect ratio. It also means the hypotenuse (diagonal) they use for monitor measurements is going to be longer. So that means the new 21.5" iMac would be more than 22" if it had a 16:10 ratio. And they've also boosted the screen resolution to 1920x1080 - which is much more important than having an extra inch or two. Also, the 24" wasn't the "middle of the size range;" it was the top.

So in essence, they've made both models bigger and boosted the resolution on each as well. It's hard to find fault with that. If you think the 27" is too big, get the 22. I bet you won't notice a difference from your "old" 24.
 
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