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MS helped Apple because Apple had them over a barrel. MS, as usual in those days, was caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Caught with Apple's Quicktime code. Before they stole that, movies and other video wouldn't play properly in Windows. They would be jerky from frame to frame.

To be fair, it seems that Microsoft hired a company to do this work which had a good reputation (because they had delivered code used in QuickTime) and that company also delivered good code to Microsoft. Unfortunately it was the same code they had sold to Apple earlier. So from a legal point of view Microsoft was certainly liable, but from a moral point of view, we don't know.

Steve Jobs isn't "wrong", he has made a business decision. And judging by the fact that over 160 million iOS devices have been sold, I would argue that not having Flash hasn't hurt Apple. Hatred for Flash is a direct result of its many shortcomings; not everyone who hates Flash is a "mac person".

Just ask the RSA what they think of Flash:

http://www.computerweekly.com/Artic...loses-phishing-attack-data-breach-details.htm


Even if 200 million devices that apple produces doesn't that still leaves over 90% of computers that do and the #1 worldwide mobile os that does, does that make Steve right or wrong? No, it is his choice but don't make it seem like the web has turned their back on flssh

I cannot quite make out what this reply to my post is supposed to me. Let me just tell again my view: In the next three years it is expected that about 200 million iPads and iPad-like devices will be sold, each capable of replacing a PC at least in some areas. We don't know how many of these will be built by Apple; it doesn't matter for my point. None will run a Microsoft OS. Of all computers and computer-replacing devices, less than 80% will be running Windows. Of these, many are in places where it doesn't matter at all whether it runs Windows or not. That's all bad for Microsoft.

Now what's not bad for Microsoft, but terrifying: Anyone can today build a very cheap, very capable desktop computer based on ARM processors. The hardware in an iPad or any Android tablet would be quite capable to run a reasonably powerful desktop computer. And since there is no requirement to squeeze everything into the tiniest possible space, it would be truly cheap. Whether it runs iOS or MacOS X or Android, the cost of the OS to the manufacturer would be zero. The cost of the processor is tiny compared to anything Intel builds. Apple probably wouldn't _want_ to sell this, but some Android manufacturer will.
 
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...So what does it say about YOU that you feel the NEED to respond. You sound like another one who needs to get out more.

...says the guy who has to scour iPad forums all day to gather enough info to prove his "point". :rolleyes:

Be that as it may, YOU still have yet to disprove that you're not an idiot.:eek:
 
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Perfectly simple ad .... it's not avertising to the likes of us ... its aimed squarely at defeating the speeds'n'feeds adverts of the Motorola's, SE's, Samsungs

Classic aspirational ad
 
We're using numbers now for hardware?

What's up with the iPad "2"? Why not just "iPad"? Now if only marketing could get out of the way.
 
Again you fail to see history repeating itself. It's only apples fault they sell one phone, os vs os android is smoking them. Ios is the iPhone an that is getting smoked, but feel free to change the argument to fit your needs.

Um... Actually, no. In an OS vs. OS sales comparison, iOS devices *vastly* outnumber Android devices. (You've probably forgotten to include the iPod Touch in your numbers, because it's not a phone.)
 
I really enjoyed this commercial. It's so much better than the 'I'm a Mac' commercials or the self-aware iPhone ads. Despite what some might believe, I don't think those advertisements portrayed the typical Apple users' attitudes. Sure, some posers and 'artists' can be pretty far up themselves, but I think most people use Macs because the experience is simply incomparable. My girlfriend really fought the purchase of a MacBook because of the price, but now can't stop saying how wonderful it is. My housemate says her MacBook Pro has revolutionised the way she works. It all sounds like a load of Apple marketing codswallop, but this is what people are telling me, so the experiences must be real.

There's been a lot of discussion regarding quality control on this thread and I must say...Apple is having some major issues in this regard. My brother's iPad 2 has a 'bleeding' screen and his battery life is pretty abysmal compared to the battery life my dad has on his iPad 1. With all settings mirrored on each device, and while being used under the exact same conditions, my dad gets about 10 hours surfing the web while my brother gets about 6. Pretty sad. Also, I'm on my THIRD 13" MacBook Pro in the last month as the first one had a problem with the screen and the replacement has a logic board issue and will not shutdown properly. I'm hoping the third time's a charm. Apple's support staff have been extremely great, but I'm just concerned about the conditions these devices face in the factory. Seems like others might be expressing similar concerns regarding the iPad 2.
 
Seems like others might be expressing similar concerns regarding the iPad 2.

some people do seem to have some quality control issues, which given the rate the iPad2's are churning out is hardly a surprise...

however some of the most vociferous posters are simply seizing upon these issues to carry on there humorless Apple bashing..

quite why they feel the need to do so suggests an embarrassing lack of maturity.
 
This advert is as good as the last iPhone advert was bad.

Hope we see more like it. :)

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The game isn't about early adopters and geeks anymore, it's about putting the iPad into as many hands as possible. The iPad is the most brilliantly easy to use and versatile computer in the world. Now it's time to take it to the masses and this ad does that brilliantly.

Apple priced it low for a reason and that reason is market share.
 
I think so too. The toaster vs oven analogy works better than Jobs' truck vs car analogy. somebody send Jobs an email so he can steal it :D

He just needs the reminder. In the very early days of Apple Computer Jobs talked about making the computer a household appliance, something everybody had, "Like a toaster".
 
Reading between the lines, the message in this ad (while totally true) could be seen as a defensive posture against competitors who shout that they have the top specs, and consumers who clamor that they demand top specs. Yet even though defensive, it doesn’t come across as whiney or desperate, but as something to think about. The question is whether someone who is passively tuned into the tube wants to have to think.

This ad will never work. People want ads that make them feel like teenage boys. I know this from Android ads. Steel and lasers, Apple. Steel and lasers!

While I wouldn’t go so far as to say this ad will never work, I kind of agree with the “steel and lasers” thing. There were those Droid commercials that were 30 second sci-fi films, and I was like, I don’t know what it is, but I want one.

I wonder if Paramount (Star Trek) would allow Apple the use of their characters for an ad? Not that Apple would ever want to use them.

Anyway, this ad is at least different from those nauseatingly peppy ads where the world is full of daisies or casually bland, snarky cheerleaders.
 
Love the spot. Pitch perfect on so many levels.
But digging this "post PC" concept/direction/positioning even more. While the competition is still working on releasing their answer(s) to iPad 1, and desperately trying to make it a specs game (as that looks to be the only real angle the competition can take with Apple - and with millions of consumers, that will suffice), Apple takes the high road with a cleverly dismissive "specs are so 2010" approach. Suggesting this new era in personal computing is so much larger than RAM or processors or I/O or resolution.
And I get it. I'm on board.
But I keep coming back to that one glaring flaw in Apple's post PC stance: all iDevices still require a PC for syncing/upgrading. And understandably so - it makes for a healthier Apple bottom line if a "starting at $500" iPad user also require a "starting at $1,000" laptop. Otherwise, 90% of users would need only an iPad. So while I don't see that metric changing soon, I do hope some of the PC dependency is lifted with, say, the N. Carolina data center piece to the puzzle.
 
If Apple uses the word "magical" in one more advertisement, I'm gonna puke. What the f@-- is this, disney world? These are consumer electronics, not Tinkerbell and Cinderella.
 
Get over it.

Start complaining when your hands start bleeding when using the device, then you might have a valid complaint.

It's nice to know that hard line zealotry isn't confined to fundamentalists and jihadists.

Off with the blasphemers hands ! They are not worth to hold the iHolypad. :rolleyes:
 
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