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Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3

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Apple has started advising iPhone 5 owners to update to iOS 10.3.4 before November 3, otherwise several key functions like iCloud and the App Store will no longer work on their device because of a time rollover issue.


Back in July, Apple released updated versions of iOS for older iPhones and iPads models, including the iPhone 5, to address an issue that could impact GPS location performance and lead to the system date and time being incorrect. The GPS time rollover issue began affecting GPS-enabled products from other manufacturers on April 6, 2019, but Apple's affected devices aren't impacted by the problem until just before midnight UTC on November 3, 2019.

For iPhone 5 and the fourth-generation iPad with Wi-Fi and Cellular, the 10.3.4 update is required to maintain accurate GPS location and to continue to use functions that rely on correct date and time including App Store, iCloud, email, and web browsing. An iOS 9.3.6 update is available for the also-affected iPhone 4s and cellular models of the original iPad mini, the iPad 2, and the iPad 3.

From Apple's support document:
Starting just before 12:00 a.m. UTC on November 3, 2019, iPhone 5 will require an iOS update to maintain accurate GPS location and to continue to use functions that rely on correct date and time including App Store, iCloud, email, and web browsing. This is due to the GPS time rollover issue that began affecting GPS-enabled products from other manufacturers on April 6, 2019. Affected Apple devices are not impacted until just before 12:00 a.m. UTC on November 3, 2019.
If iPhone 5 models in particular are not updated by November 3, 2019, Apple says users will have to back up and restore using a Mac or PC in order to update, because over-the-air software updates and iCloud Backup will not work.

If you have an iPhone 5, check to make sure your device has updated successfully by following these steps.
  1. Launch the Settings app on your iPhone 5.
  2. Tap General -> About.
  3. Look for the number next to Software Version.
The updated software version should be 10.3.4.

Article Link: Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3
 
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I have a friend who owns an iPhone SE and refuses to update to anything over iOS 10. I'm not sure what version they're exactly on, but I believe it's the last version of iOS 10. (so 10.3.3?). Will this affect them? Or can they continue using their phone without any issues?
 
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Is this just for the original iPhone 5?

I have a couple of iPhone 5c models that won't upgrade past 10.3.3.
There's probably an older piece of hardware in the iPhone 5 that's not going to be supported without a software update. The iPhone 5c and 5s were released at the same time so they most likely have the same modem / GPS unit that'll stay supported. Just a theory.
 
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There's probably an older piece of hardware in the iPhone 5 that's not going to be supported without a software update. The iPhone 5c and 5s were released at the same time so they most likely have the same modem / GPS unit that'll stay supported. Just a theory.
That's what I was thinking.
 
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Apple has started advising iPhone 5 owners to update to iOS 10.3.4 before November 3, otherwise several key functions like iCloud and the App Store will no longer work on their device because of a time rollover issue.

Back in July, Apple released updated versions of iOS for older iPhones and iPads models, including the iPhone 5, to address an issue that could impact GPS location performance and lead to the system date and time being incorrect. The GPS time rollover issue began affecting GPS-enabled products from other manufacturers on April 6, 2019, but Apple's affected devices aren't impacted by the problem until just before midnight UTC on November 3, 2019.

For iPhone 5 and the fourth-generation iPad with Wi-Fi and Cellular, the 10.3.4 update is required to maintain accurate GPS location and to continue to use functions that rely on correct date and time including App Store, iCloud, email, and web browsing. An iOS 9.3.6 update is available for the also-affected iPhone 4s and cellular models of the original iPad mini, the iPad 2, and the iPad 3.

From Apple's support document:
If iPhone 5 models in particular are not updated by November 3, 2019, Apple says users will have to back up and restore using a Mac or PC in order to update, because over-the-air software updates and iCloud Backup will not work.

If you have an iPhone 5, check to make sure your device has updated successfully by following these steps.
  1. Launch the Settings app on your iPhone 5.
  2. Tap General -> About.
  3. Look for the number next to Software Version.
The updated software version should be 10.3.4.

Article Link: Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3
They should also remind iPhone 5 users that it’s 2019. And welcome them.
 
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It depends. If apple bricks it, that not “generous”. If they are simply removing iCloud access that’s another matter.
Apple’s not bricking anything, and they’re not removing iCloud access.

Apple released 10.3.4 a few months ago to deal with a well-known problem (GPS rollover issue). If iPhone 5 users don’t update, they’re going to have problems.
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How? It’s not supported anymore. It’s not like the iPhone 5 is getting iOS 13.
Not getting the latest version of iOS is not the same as unsupported.

Apple released a new version (10.3.4) a few months ago specifically to support customers still using iPhone 5. They need to update or they’ll have problems.
 
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I think it was not generous but necessary... Apple would never get away with letting this issue remove internet access from all iPhone 5 devices. The have no choice but to provide the update. I wonder if the iPhone 4 on 7.1.2 is affected?
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Also means I'll no longer be able to do much with the 2 iPhone 5's I have with iOS 6. Thanks, Apple.
 
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I know a few people, let’s say, from the older generation, who have stuck with the iPhone 5 and also refuse to download any kind of update, they have also turned off any kind of location / find my iPhone setting the minute they got the phone so they cannot be ‘tracked’. So there’s no hope they will ever download this...
 
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Oh goodness. This is unfortunate for having an iPhone 4s. I have kept my old iPhone 4s on iOS 7.x.x. Because iOS 9 cripples this phone so much. But now this bug exist and I would have to upgrade to iOS 9.3.6. But I refuse to upgrade cause once I do I’ll never get iOS 7 back and iOS 7 runs smoothly still on the 4s. Ugh. I guess I’ll have to deal with no gps. Kinda lame. It’s also interesting to see if Apple continues to sign iOS 6 for the 4s which they have for the past couple of years.

Yes I understand this is a old phone but it’s for collecting purposes but also use it just for nostalgia. I just want to keep it on the iOS 7. But this puts a big wrench into things
 
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Oh goodness. This is unfortunate for having an iPhone 4s. I have kept my old iPhone 4s on iOS 7.x.x. Because iOS 9 cripples this phone so much. But now this bug exist and I would have to upgrade to iOS 9.3.6. But I refuse to upgrade cause once I do I’ll never get iOS 7 back and iOS 7 runs smoothly still on the 4s. Ugh. I guess I’ll have to deal with no gps. Kinda lame. It’s also interesting to see if Apple continues to sign iOS 6 for the 4s which they have for the past couple of years.

Yes I understand this is a old phone but it’s for collecting purposes but also use it just for nostalgia. I just want to keep it on the iOS 7. But this puts a big wrench into things


I remember I had a similar issue when my new TV no longer supported my gaming system adapter.

I had when they force us to upgrade. Now my gaming system is almost useless without 3rd party adapters.
 

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Giving us all a very narrow upgrade window, given that they’re on 13.1.3 and the deadline is 7 days away. Would suck if their upgrade servers get clogged.
 
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Apple why not release an iOS 12 lite for all dual core iPhone and iPod devices?

My iPhone 4S is still going strong but I've downgraded to iOS 6 and updated to iOS 8 from 9 because it was a lousy iOS version and Apple started signing iOS 6 again.
 
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